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Old 04-22-2008   #121
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Nobody is worth a first, second, and third. I cant think of any player worth more than a first quite frankly. LT is getting up there in age and so is Peyton so I would not trade a first rounder for either of them. If I was gonna trade a first, Id like to get a young solid player who would be dominant years from now. Marcus McNeil, the SD LT comes to mind as an example.
interesting... you wouldn't consider Manning or Brady (who are hardley old) worth your first three picks?

i'm not saying i would but i'd certainly think about it.
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Sage & our #1 to move up in the top 10.....you heard it here first.
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Speaking of the Vikings there are rumors out there they offered there first and third rounders for Jared Allen, plus a pick next year...kinda kills the SAge trade rumors if it happens.
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Why does getting Jared Allen kill a trade for Sage? Allen should be a very good player and expensive but part of Sage's "attractiveness" is his contract costs and two years left. If Vikes give a 1st & 3rd for Allen and a 2nd for a possible QB starter or a solid B/up, sounds a good deal to me.
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Why does getting Jared Allen kill a trade for Sage? Allen should be a very good player and expensive but part of Sage's "attractiveness" is his contract costs and two years left. If Vikes give a 1st & 3rd for Allen and a 2nd for a possible QB starter or a solid B/up, sounds a good deal to me.
Because I don't think they are the Redskins, meaning I think they would like to hold onto some of their draft picks. The have other needs besides DE and QB.
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interesting... you wouldn't consider Manning or Brady (who are hardley old) worth your first three picks?

i'm not saying i would but i'd certainly think about it.
If Texans had 1st, 2nd and 3rd and we had neither Schaub or Sage, I would not give those picks for any QB. Especially with what we have seen Kubes do with a scrap heap QB like Sage. I would probably go LT @18, QB in 2nd and a CB in third.
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Because I don't think they are the Redskins, meaning I think they would like to hold onto some of their draft picks. The have other needs besides DE and QB.
I agree they need picks but they have already bumped the offer (see your link) to include a high round pick 2009. You may hold he picks, but the team think Allen is worth a 1st & 3rd. The only thing we should look at is the 2nd rd selection. To the Vikings, it comes down to what they would value as priority, a QB or ? Their remain intriguing players in 4th and 5th.
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Ravens fans, you may finally have your quarterback of the future: Chad Henne. I made him the 20th pick in my mock first round Monday, chosen by Baltimore after a trade with Tampa Bay. And after talking to Henne at length Monday night, the idea seems pretty plausible.

"They seem to like me a lot, but you never know,'' the 22-year-old Henne said from his Pennsylvania home. "I think I'm a pretty good fit there. I kind of stressed with them my ability to come in and play right away, because I've been through it already [as a four-year starter at Michigan].
from MMQB... no sage imo but possible trade down partner?
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VIKES GIVE UP THREE 2008 PICKS FOR ALLEN
Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2008, 11:17 p.m.

Holy crap.

The Vikings, according to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, surrendered their first-round pick in the 2008 draft and both third-round selections for Chiefs defensive end Jared Allen.

The Chiefs will now add the No. 17, No. 73, and No. 82 overall selections to the No. 5, No. 35, and No. 66 picks, giving them six selections among the first 100 picks.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

but they didn't throw in their 2nd round pick.... you know why..

Ok, really. Forget Minnesota, onto Green Bay and Oakland and etc.
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Why is anyone even mentioning Minnesota since they signed Gus Frerotte??
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Why is anyone even mentioning Minnesota since they signed Gus Frerotte??
Wow. Did you read that to yourself before typing it?
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No, and I didn't read through seven pages of posts before I typed it either. Sue me.
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maybe the Vikings think that Brad Childress (who coached mcNabb) and Kevin Rogers (Qb coach that coached at VT) and or Darell Bevell(OC that was Favre QB coach) can put their heads together for a game plan on improving the Qb's of the Vikes .. and can improve the team better than haven't Sage and missing a 2nd rounder (being Ukede is out)



and if not, they might still try to take a shot at Sage
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maybe the Vikings think that Brad Childress (who coached mcNabb) and Kevin Rogers (Qb coach that coached at VT) and or Darell Bevell(OC that was Favre QB coach) can put their heads together for a game plan on improving the Qb's of the Vikes .. and can improve the team better than haven't Sage and missing a 2nd rounder (being Ukede is out)



and if not, they might still try to take a shot at Sage
LOL I just read the thread about Jared Allen and the 3 picks the vikes gave up
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A 2nd rounder for Sage would have improved the Vikings more than giving up their 1st and 2 3rds for Allen. A lot more. What are they thinking.
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A 2nd rounder for Sage would have improved the Vikings more than giving up their 1st and 2 3rds for Allen. A lot more. What are they thinking.
Not a bad deal and a great bargain, I wish I would have thought of that

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LOL I just read the thread about Jared Allen and the 3 picks the vikes gave up
Cue the "Sage to the Chiefs" thread in 3...2...1...
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interesting... you wouldn't consider Manning or Brady (who are hardley old) worth your first three picks?

i'm not saying i would but i'd certainly think about it.
No i wouldnt. Peyton is 32 and Brady is 30. If they play another 5 years, then I would have severely stunted my team by giving up 3 potential starters. On the other hand a LT like McNeil is only 24 and he can play for another 12 years. I might consider a first for him, but only someone like that. Young and solid.
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No i wouldnt. Peyton is 32 and Brady is 30. If they play another 5 years, then I would have severely stunted my team by giving up 3 potential starters. On the other hand a LT like McNeil is only 24 and he can play for another 12 years. I might consider a first for him, but only someone like that. Young and solid.
i doubt mcneill lasts 12 yrs.. iirc he has a narrowing of the spine (which caused him to fall to the 2nd rd in the first place)
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maybe the Vikings think that Brad Childress (who coached mcNabb) and Kevin Rogers (Qb coach that coached at VT) and or Darell Bevell(OC that was Favre QB coach) can put their heads together for a game plan on improving the Qb's of the Vikes .. and can improve the team better than haven't Sage and missing a 2nd rounder (being Ukede is out)



and if not, they might still try to take a shot at Sage
To my knowledge, that's only worked a hand full of times in the history of the league, Favre being the most recent. Generally, it usually turns out bad for the coach. If they're smart like kubes was after his 1st year here dealing with DC, they'll go ahead & make a move b/c Jackson isn't the answer & Ferotte damn sure isn't.
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How about Rosenfels to KC now? With the trade today, KC now has 3 3rd rounders along with thier 2nd and 4th. Seems like they have plenty of mid round ammo to entice the Texans.
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