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Old 04-15-2008   #21
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We probably wouldnt have picked mario williams if we did pick Julius Peppers instead of DC. But could you imagine our Dline


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I've saw where someone said Charles Hill and Vernand Morency were busts but both were taken in the 3rd round and they are still playing on the teams they are with. Charles Hill actually had a great year last year with Tampa Bay and Morency has been a very solid servicable back for Green Bay.
I don't know if you're confusing Hill with Philip Buchannon, but the Charles Hill the Texans drafted was signed by the Bears but never played a game for them, and has been out of the NFL since then (2003).
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We probably wouldnt have picked mario williams if we did pick Julius Peppers instead of DC. But could you imagine our Dline


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In a perfect world, we'd still have drafted Mario because we never signed Anthony Weaver.
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In a perfect world, we'd still have drafted Mario because we never signed Anthony Weaver.
And we never would have drafted Jason Babin to play OLB in our 3-4.

oh what could have been.
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So, three guys are your 2 favorite picks... Those are all solid picks. Ill add Winston, DDW, and Faggins as well. For a CB drafted so low to even be on the team as long as he was is pretty cool. Ill also add Mario, because some teams would have felt pressured to take the glammer girls instead.



Bryant McKinnie(sp) the LT for Minnisota.
I cant believe Owen Daniels was a 4th rounder!! Guys like a younger dallas clark.
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I don't know if you're confusing Hill with Philip Buchannon, but the Charles Hill the Texans drafted was signed by the Bears but never played a game for them, and has been out of the NFL since then (2003).
My bad, I think I am talking about White who we also drafted that same year. I don't know, but one guy was drafted by us and is now playing in Tampa. He had a good game against us this past year.
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My bad, I think I am talking about White who we also drafted that same year. I don't know, but one guy was drafted by us and is now playing in Tampa. He had a good game against us this past year.

only guy i remember was phil buchannon
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My bad, I think I am talking about White who we also drafted that same year. I don't know, but one guy was drafted by us and is now playing in Tampa. He had a good game against us this past year.
Yeah, Greg White. I believe he was "Mr. Irrelevant" that year.
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My bad, I think I am talking about White who we also drafted that same year. I don't know, but one guy was drafted by us and is now playing in Tampa. He had a good game against us this past year.
That was Greg White.

Not a 3rd round pick but a 7th round pick. Set the Texan pre-season sack record and then was cut by us. Bounced around. I think he ended up in Arena Football and played for Gruden's brother's team and then got a chance at Tampa Bay this year.
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Yeah, Greg White. I believe he was "Mr. Irrelevant" that year.
We took 2 more guys after him. Last guy we took was Milford Brown.
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We took 2 more guys after him. Last guy we took was Milford Brown.
Didn't we take Brown in the supplemental draft? I think we had to give up a sixth for him.
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Didn't we take Brown in the supplemental draft? I think we had to give up a sixth for him.
Yes. I read it wrong. Milford Brown was a supplemental pick and Ahmad Miller was our last pick of 2002.

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We probably wouldnt have picked mario williams if we did pick Julius Peppers instead of DC. But could you imagine our Dline


Mario Williams, TJ, Okoy, Juilius Peppers


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had we taken peppers, these could of probably been our future 1st round picks.

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04: Fitzgerald or Roy Williams
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You gotta throw Mathis in there as one of the best. He did make a pro bowl.
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You gotta throw Mathis in there as one of the best. He did make a pro bowl.
No you don't when the oft injured miscreant couldn't make himself useful enough to even stay on the roster. Owen Daniels is a great 4th round gem as was DD. Mathis is someone who could have been and pissed it away.
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No you don't when the oft injured miscreant couldn't make himself useful enough to even stay on the roster. Owen Daniels is a great 4th round gem as was DD. Mathis is someone who could have been and pissed it away.
He made it to the pro bowl. That is value. He could have been better, but a fourth round pick making the pro bowl? He has to be on here. How many Texans drafted players have made the pro bowl?
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Charles Hill actually made the team his rookie year (2002) but played sparingly other than special teams. He never made another regular season roster other than the Berlin Thunder and the Orlando Predators. He was healthy and since he couldn't survive the cut with another NFL team, it wasn't (just) a case of him not fitting the system or being poorly coached when he was here -- he's just not an NFL player. For the 83rd pick in the draft, that's pretty bad and has to merit serious consideration for the Texans' worst pick ever. Even Tony Hollings managed to earn an NFL paycheck for a few years.

By the way, Greg White had eight sacks last year for the Bucs. White racked up a lot of frequent flyer miles bouncing around on practice squads, camp rosters, arena ball, and NFL-Europe before finally making it in Tampa Bay.
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If we hadent picked david carr who would u have choosen ?????? has a QB how would of we know David would be a bust he was at the time looked like a sure fire good pick
David Carr did not look like a sure fire good pick. Everyone except the Texans front office thought Peppers was the #1 rated player in that draft. It was a horrible decision to draft a QB the first year. Even if Bosseli would of worked out. We should of signed a veteran QB like Dilfer and built the trenches up.

There were alot of QB's coming out in the following years that would of been better choices than Carr. Because of Capers success in Carolina, Casserly got over confident and went for our FRANCHISE QB. It cost him his job and us lots of heart ache. Thank god that’s all over and we finally have people running our team that have things in perspective.
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Charles Hill actually made the team his rookie year (2002) but played sparingly other than special teams. He never made another regular season roster other than the Berlin Thunder and the Orlando Predators. He was healthy and since he couldn't survive the cut with another NFL team, it wasn't (just) a case of him not fitting the system or being poorly coached when he was here -- he's just not an NFL player. For the 83rd pick in the draft, that's pretty bad and has to merit serious consideration for the Texans' worst pick ever. Even Tony Hollings managed to earn an NFL paycheck for a few years.

By the way, Greg White had eight sacks last year for the Bucs. White racked up a lot of frequent flyer miles bouncing around on practice squads, camp rosters, arena ball, and NFL-Europe before finally making it in Tampa Bay.
Glad to see you here Warren....I was a bit shocked when we released White after his huge sack day in the preseason. My theory back then was that he wasn't overly bright after hearing him speak.
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Glad to see you here Warren....I was a bit shocked when we released White after his huge sack day in the preseason. My theory back then was that he wasn't overly bright after hearing him speak.
If I remember correctly the C & C claimed that White's sacks were "easy" sacks which made it easier to cut him. But I am of the opinion that 4 sacks is 4 sacks any way you slice it...
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