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Old 04-09-2008   #1
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Jake that is. Looks like the OL might be the first pick.

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The Miami Dolphins could soon be off the clock.

The Dolphins have formally begun contract negotiations with agent Tom Condon about the prospect of selecting former Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long as the first overall selection in this year's draft.

Condon, who also represents Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan, was in South Florida early this week to negotiate specifically on behalf of Long at the request of the team, The Miami Herald has learned.

The Dolphins would like to have a contract in place with their first pick before the draft on April 26, which would allow them to avoid a potentially ugly holdout like the one that took place in Oakland last year upon the Raiders' selection of quarterback JaMarcus Russell.

Miami is still intrigued by Virginia defensive end Chris Long, but no in-person talks between Chris Long's agent and Miami are believed to have taken place to date. However, the Dolphins are believed to be happy with quarterback John Beck, and they are not considering Ryan as an option with the first pick.
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Jake that is. Looks like the OL will be the first pick.

http://www.miamiherald.com/616/story/489210.html
great! thats gonna bump all the tackles up
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Great! That's gonna bumb all the tackles up!
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Great! That's gonna bumb all the tackles up!
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Of course this could just be a smokescreen.
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Of course this could just be a smokescreen.
I was thinking the same thing, but even so it doesn't mean that they aren't interested.
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Of course this could just be a smokescreen.
True, but for what purpose? The only angle I could see them taking is if the Dolphins want to trade, and think someone else has locked onto Jake Long so that they'd be willing to trade up to get him. And, I find this difficult to believe - I don't hear anyone talking about Long as a can't miss superstar, the way some previous players have been. Otherwise, though, I don't see what purpose a smokescreen would serve? A way of bringing down the price for the player they're really interested in? I wouldn't think that would be too effective, either - anyone in the first spot is going to want similar amounts of money, and I haven't heard any rumors that any agents have been suggesting any particularly high demands.
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I really don't see how smokescreening does them any good...
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Default Re: Fins negotiating with Long

Maybe a smokescreen, maybe not. But I doubt that these are final negotiations on a contract. More then likely this is the preliminary session, and if the Fins are smart they'll be conducting the same type talks with a couple of ther players at the top of their draft board.
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On the other hand Chris Long falling a few spots can mean a few more defensive players to choose from.
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Default Re: Fins negotiating with Long

Seeing as we only need a new (insert position here), this won't really affect the Texans.

We have too many needs to get worked up over this one way or another.
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I really don't see how smokescreening does them any good...
If another team wants Jake bad enough they know they will have to trade.
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Default Re: Fins negotiating with Long

it's a perfect smokescreen, not just for other teams but for other players. i'm sure miami has several players in mind right now, so they'll negotiate with a bunch and see who bites on the lowest offer. and perhaps a team like atlanta may really like j. long and trade the moon and/or stars for him because they're threatened here. who knows, but one thing is sure, this isn't the last you'll hear about miami negotiating with a player
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it's a perfect smokescreen, not just for other teams but for other players. i'm sure miami has several players in mind right now, so they'll negotiate with a bunch and see who bites on the lowest offer. and perhaps a team like atlanta may really like j. long and trade the moon and/or stars for him because they're threatened here. who knows, but one thing is sure, this isn't the last you'll hear about miami negotiating with a player
I think they're trying to trade for Reggie Bush ... I know I'm
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and perhaps a team like atlanta may really like j. long and trade the moon and/or stars for him because they're threatened here.
You're dreamin kastofsna. Parsells is sittin there stuck with the worst pick in the Draft. Guaranteed he'd much rather have anything between #2 & #32
than the #1 because the cap hit is so great. And all the other 31 teams are thankful they don't have the #1.
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Default Re: Fins negotiating with Long

Smokescreen? Sounds like what people said about a certain DE that was taken #1 a couple years ago.

If Parcells wants Jake Long at #1, I'd defer to his expertise. That guy can build teams.
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Keep in mind Parcells is running the show. I really think the aging defense needs WAY more help then the offense(Beck to Ginn jr anyone?!) and after seeing LT I think Bill understands what an impact defensive player can do.
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it's a perfect smokescreen, not just for other teams but for other players. i'm sure miami has several players in mind right now, so they'll negotiate with a bunch and see who bites on the lowest offer.
Really? That would have to be one of the worst strategies for selecting a draft pick. I understand if you have two players not even close in demands, or it's going to make a huge difference in final price, but I haven't seen any indication that any players are demanding something special, or that someone is going to be out of the ballpark.

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and perhaps a team like atlanta may really like j. long and trade the moon and/or stars for him because they're threatened here.
That's possible, but seems really unlikely. There's no indication that any of the top prospects this year are that notable - no Peyton Manning, or even Reggie Bush...
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http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...aspx?sport=NFL

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How about the fact that NFL Network says Miami will not be negotiating with Matt Ryan. I wonder how far he will fall. Atlanta? KC? Jets? Ravens?
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