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Old 12-07-2004   #21
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don't blame the system, your team should be good enough with out having to have the coach go on every tv station to try and get some pitty votes.
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Ok, where to begin....

UT got beat by WashSt last year in the Holiday Bowl.....WAZZU!
So don't try and say they would do anything to CAL this year.

CAL took care of everyone on their schedule... USC they lost to by 6points at Pasadena, and it was a very close game. UT got shutout by OU! Hell UofH scored twice on OU!

CAL went to "The Rock" and beat a very tough Southern Miss team. If none of you have been there, you do not know how tough it is.....one of the toughest places to play in the nation! But they won.

UT, on the other hand, should have lost to Arkansas, but barely won by 2 points. Almost lost to 5-6 Missouri, at home! AND UT was getting kicked around by Kansas (until a last second desparation pass)! FREAKIN KANSAS!!

And so what if UT beat A&M (overated)......they lost to BAYLOR!!

CAL took care of business without any questions. It was just that the "Good Ole Boy" system of the SE worked again --- against those crazy liberals in the West--- see last year (USC vs. OU & LSU). I would hate to see what the PAC-10 & the Rose Bowl would have done if USC got snubbed this year (if AUburn & OU were in the Orange Bowl)!

I guess I am just a purist when it comes to College Football --- the Rose Bowl should always be Pac-10 vs. Big-10.

It was all because of Mack Brown's BUSH-like campaigning. Now the only reason I will watch the Rose Bowl is to see UT get their butts whipped by Meeeeeechigan! This will prove that UT is no better than the Cotton Bowl or Holiday Bowl!
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If you guys think the hippies from Berkeley got the shaft in the Bowl selection, wait til Bobo gives em the Big Shaft in front of their pinko fans. If Southern Miss can throw for 400 yards against these commies... "Say good night, Gracie"
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Cal struggled against Oregon and Southern Miss. Texas struggled against Kansas and Missouri. That is a wash.

Cal lost to the #1 team in the country and Texas lost to the #2 team in the country. That is a wash.

You claim the Aggies are overrated because they lost to Baylor. How is that any worse than Arizona State, the only top rated team Cal beat, losing to lowly Arizona?

So basically that leaves us with a win over Texas Tech and who was Cal's second best victory? Heck I bet Oklahoma State has more ranking votes than the 2nd best team Cal beat all year.

I feel for Cal. I think the current system is sucks. I really think that both teams deserve a top notch bowl game. The fact that the Big East has held on to their automatic bid with BC, Miami, and VTech leaving is a joke. I would also like to see teams lose their automatic bid to a BCS game if the team is not ranked high enough in the BCS.

It would have sucked if Colorado and Tennessee had won their respective conferences. The bowls would have been even more of a joke.
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But the RoseBowl is always a Pac-10 and BigTen.
Correction: It used to be PAC-10/Big-10. When the Rose Bowl aligned themselves with the BCS, they ran the risk of breaking this tradition. I believe the Rose has been PAC-10/BIG-10 just once in the past 4 years (including this one).

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Mack Brown's pouting got the Horns in the Rose Bowl.
Yeah, I'm sure Texas' identical record, more wins over top 25 opponents and a tougher SOS had nothing to do with it.

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From what I understand, TEN coaches flipped their vote to Texas, picking Cal the previous week. Cal was ahead of UT, both teams won, Cal should have stayed ahead of Texas.

The human polls didn't work. The BcS is a freaking joke. GET A PLAYOFF SYSTEM ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!
This one is very important so listen closely: There is a post made by a UT fan that I will re-post in a minute. He does a breakdown of these votes and basically gives those coaches votes back to Cal. Result - Texas still finishes ahead of Cal.

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Being a Notre Dame fan by nature...I DESPISE the Michigan Wolverines. On Jan 1, I will be wearing Wolverine Blue and Gold...Texas needs to start thinking about beating OU. Then it can worry about what BCS bowl it gets.

I have lived here for 2 years now...I watch UT fans laugh and heckle while their team blows out weak competition...(North Texas this year for example), then whine and cry when facing an opponent equal to or better than they are. (OU for example). It's funny how quickly you change your tune when you are on the short end of the talent pool.

Note to UT fans...Try having a little class when your team is pounding the lesser opponents, and people won't revel in displaying a lack of class while you are getting shut out.
What somebody else already stated. It's fair for Cal to go to the Rose w/o beating USC but it's required of Texas to beat OU? Spare me the "closer game". They lost.

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it's not that hard to go 7-4 in the Sun Belt Conference with teams like UL Monroe, Troy, Arkansas State, Utah State, UL Lafayette, Idaho, New Mexico State, and Middle Tennesse State, and Only one other team had a winning record, which was troy. Also, Comparing North Texas and Washington isn't a fair comparision because Washington is a conference opponent much like Baylor, but you can say they play in a weak conference. The pac-10 is worse than the overrated big 8(plus medium 4). you can also say that cal played usc a lot closer than ut played ou. also mack brown is a joke, did you see him begging coaches for votes, if you could coach your team you wouldn't have to. i didn't see tefford stooping that low.
Well no s4it Tefford didn't stoop that low...he was in the race the entire year. How dumb is he going to look if he's complaining about not getting votes when he's sitting on a Rose Bowl invite? Aaron Rodgers whined about Mack Brown begging for votes and said a team should be able to rely on their record to speak for itself. What did he do shortly after that? He whined about the BCS. Hello pot, meet kettle.

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That would be a good theory if the team they jumped didn't have the same record and if the team they jumped's one loss hadn't come by a narrower margin to the #1 team while Texas' one loss came to the #2 team with a bigger loss.
So we should base a team's appearance in a BCS bowl on how they performed in one game? How did Cal do against all the top 25 teams they played this year? Oh, that's right...they only played 2 going 1-1.

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Ok, where to begin....

UT got beat by WashSt last year in the Holiday Bowl.....WAZZU!
So don't try and say they would do anything to CAL this year.
I'm trying to figure out what last year has to do with this year.

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CAL took care of everyone on their schedule... USC they lost to by 6points at Pasadena, and it was a very close game. UT got shutout by OU! Hell UofH scored twice on OU!
Cal did look better against USC than Texas did against OU. But quick, name the other team in the country that kept Jason White and Adrian Peterson both out of the endzone in the same game. Oh, that's right...there isn't one.

And thank God UT didn't have to play Houston this year. I can only imagine the butt kicking the Cougars would've laid on the Longhorns.

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CAL went to "The Rock" and beat a very tough Southern Miss team. If none of you have been there, you do not know how tough it is.....one of the toughest places to play in the nation! But they won.
The same Southern Miss that got beat 42-17 by TCU this year? Please. Check their home record this year and tell me some of their other impressive victories and I'll concede that they're a tough team to play at home.

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It was all because of Mack Brown's BUSH-like campaigning. Now the only reason I will watch the Rose Bowl is to see UT get their butts whipped by Meeeeeechigan! This will prove that UT is no better than the Cotton Bowl or Holiday Bowl!
Yet somehow I feel that if/when Texas wins, you'll find some other way to spin it instead of recognizing their rightful place.
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Someone mentioned that the PAC-10 is a patsy conf, yet UT got whooped by WAZZU last year. That is where the relevance comes in....Reading: its fundamental!

UT struggled against Arkansas at home....forgot that one....advantage CAL!

When it comes down to it, you play the teams you are scheduled. CAL played its schedule better than UT..end of story.

CAL feel in the rankings after a win and UT was idle....that makes sense.

UT does not deserve to be there...they should be back in the Holiday Bowl, where they belong.

I am sure many UT Horns cannot see that becuase they have their burnt orange colored glasses on. Hell the majority of UT fans never went to UT and are just the college version of Cowboy fan.....bandwagon fan that follows the current winners (where were all the UT fans back in the 90s?_! -- nevermind, they were FlaSt fans or A&M fans!
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Here's that post from a Texas fan:

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The Pac 10 commish, the Cal coach, and many others are harping on some of the voting patterns that may have tainted the BCS. Let's talk about it. Let me take item by item some of the problems that have been discussed (and I will make adjustments accordingly).

-- You complain about the 3 Texas based AP voters who switched and put Texas ahead of Cal. I'm gonna switch it back for ya. (typing). There you go!

-- You complain about the Alabama jerk who suddenly realized Texas is not the #9 team, but he suddenly moved us up to #5. Bear in mind, he still had Texas behind you guys, but what the hay? Let's take away those four points from Texas, shall we?

-- You are offended (and you have a case) that some coaches put Texas #2 or #3. You are right. That is wrong. I'm taking it all away. I will take away those points from Texas, and because y'all are so damn confident that you unequivocally outrank Texas, I will reassign all these #2/#3 Texas coach votes to Texas as a #5 vote. (More typing). There we go! And I'm being so nice today, I'm gonna go ahead and leave the pro-Cal #3 vote that mysteriously appeared in the final coaches poll.

-- You are offended that 6 coaches put you #7 or #8. Yes, that's wrong, too. Forget the fact that 8 coaches had Texas #7 or #8, the media is not mentioning that fact at all, but whatever. What I will do for y'all... I will take all 6 Cal #7/#8 votes, and because y'all are so convinced you are the better team, I will magically turn those into #4 votes, ahead of Texas.

So where do we stand after all these very generous changes?

#4 Texas 0.8442
#5 Cal 0.8391
0.0051

That's right. We eliminated a little more than half of the difference. So much for the razor thin margin. So much for the conspiracy taking away your Rose Bowl bid. Y'all need to get together, figure out another injustice, and let me know, so we can try to plug a way for you guys to win.

OK. Now that I have mathematically shown (and given you all are very smart students at Berkeley, and you know based on what I said above, I'm right), let me give you all the reasons why you need to shut up already and just accept your damn Holiday Bowl bid.

1. The "Conspiracy Effect" Doesn't Add Up
This is what was just proven above. In the end, it makes for a neat Trev Alberts, PTI, New York Times, Seattle Times story, but it didn't really matter.

2. You Outranked Us in Both Human Polls
Al Gore wanted a recount, investigations, because he had LOST the human vote. You guys won it, damn it! Not only do you outrank us #4/#5 in the coach's poll, but you have the added benefit of a wedge (Utah) to outrank us #4/#6 in the AP poll. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?? How can you allege fraud in the human polls, when in the end, they WENT IN YOUR FAVOR?

Forget the fact that both teams have identical records, and a good case to make as both teams lost to undefeated national title contenders. It's understandable that some voters will vote Cal #4/Texas #5, and vice versa. If you refuse to accept that premise, you are being naive. It is not a slam dunk case, that in every voter's mind, that you are better than Texas. You know it and we know it. I will never argue that every voter should have Texas higher than Cal, and you should never argue the opposite. It's a grey area.

And in the end, the grey area was in your favor. You are unhappy, because it wasn't overwhelmingly ENOUGH in your favor. Oh well.

3. There's a reason the computers liked Texas
Cal's cumulative opponents win/loss was 61-61, a perfect breakeven.
Texas' cumulative opponents win/loss was 67-56, 11 games over 0.500

That's right. The best way we can try to demote our schedule to your level, is to pull out the undefeated 12-0 record of our best opponent, Oklahoma. But given that you guys [censored] and [censored] and [censored] how close you came to beating your undefeated opponent, I don't think we can accomodate you there.

We beat 5 teams that had 7 or more victories. You defeated one. One. One team that won 7 or more games.

4. Be fair about each of our losses.
I am more than willing to grant you that you played USC better than we played OU. But don't go saying that you practically beat USC (because you outgained them, and your wideout tripped on his route), while we got blown out by OU. The score of the OU game at halftime was Oklahoma 3, Texas 0. It was Oklahoma 6, Texas 0 up until 8 minutes in the 4th quarter. I realize that given you are Pac 10 fans, you must shiver when you see such a defensive struggle. But this was a very close game.

Again, we did not do as well against our rival as you did against yours. You guys were close. But don't go saying that we were blown out by OU.

5. Be fair about each of our sloppy wins.
Kansas. Boy, the media sure loves that game. We played sloppy in that one no doubt, but you guys know that as time was winding down, the Oregon WR dropped a wideopen, easy pass that puts them well within field goal range. So those are both near misses against sub-0.500 teams.

Arkansas. Well, I was happy with that one, it was an electric environment. It was probably closer than it should have been. Honestly, I do think this is a wash with your Southern Miss game. On the road, close at the end (game was nearly tied 17-16 with a mere 6 minutes left). But in the end, the better team won.

If you try to assert that any of our wins beyond KU and Arkansas were low quality or squeakers in nature, you are wrong (in my opinion). I attended and re-watched each of these games. Kansas and Arkansas made me sweat, but as the games concluded, none of the others were really in question, and they were all by reasonable victory margins. Yes, a comeback was needed against Okla State, but we won that game by 21 points.

6. Quit harping on the Big 10/Pac 10 sanctity ****.
For years, the Rose Bowl has been diligent in preserving tradition by always inviting the champion of the Big 10, to play the champion of the Pac 10.

Three teams: Michigan, Cal, and Texas. Only one of them meets this tradition, and last time I checked, that team is going to the Rose Bowl. Tell me, again, how the tradition is being violated.

7. Quit saying Mack Brown's "whining" did the trick.
While you and Utah were off, and after we defeated a ranked A&M team in a rivalry game, Mack Brown made public statements asking for voters to reconsider their votes. Some have portrayed this as "whining," some may say he was politicking, but whatever you want to call it, it doesn't matter. He was certainly making an appeal to voters.

When the polls came out merely 2 days later (again bearing in mind that Texas beat a ranked team, Cal and Utah were off), here's what happened: Cal GAINED 4 points in the human polls. Texas LOST ground after defeating a ranked team by 13pts, while Cal was off. If ANYTHING, the "whining" backfired. It clearly didn't help.

Here's a thought.... maybe Cal lost ground in the human polls in the following week (a full 9 days after Mack's "whining") because of a subpar performance against a mediocre conference USA opponent. Because they were virtually tied with Southern Miss with only 6 minutes remaining in the game. Not because of Mack's "whining." And if you think it is wrong for Cal to be penalized on ballots because they didn't look good against a mediocre opponent -- welcome to college football. Teams have constantly been tweaked because of soft performances. Nebraska, in 1997, lost considerable votes (relative to Michigan) when it needed some luck to squeak by Mizzou. The precedent is ample, and reasonable. In fact, Texas according to many voters was being penalized for its performance against Kansas. What goes around, comes around.
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When did this happen? I'd love to hear it (mainly because I'm going to blow your response out of the water).
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Someone mentioned that the PAC-10 is a patsy conf, yet UT got whooped by WAZZU last year. That is where the relevance comes in....Reading: its fundamental!
And again, I fail to see the significance of last year to this year.

Wazzu beat UT in the Holiday Bowl last year. So the PAC-10 MUST be tough this year!

Outstadning logic, Mike.
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Warning...Mike is a hater when it comes to UT. If you ask him, he will tell you that UH has a better football program than Texas. As a matter of fact...before the season, he said that UH would play OU closer than Texas would! OH WELL! His loss!
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Oh I know he (Mike) is (a Texas hater). But they're the easiest ones to pick on becaue they let that hate get in the way of common sense.
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bandwagon fan that follows the current winners (where were all the UT fans back in the 90s?_! -- nevermind, they were FlaSt fans or A&M fans!
UH had a good football program in the '70's, '80's and early '90's. They actually HAD a following.

I went to the UH vs. TCU game last year. They are still trying to add up the score of that one. The stadium seats what 40,000 seats? About half of them were empty against an (at the time) undefeated TCU team. It didn't used to be that way. The team slid and so did the bandwagon support.

The point is, people come out of the woodwork when a team starts to win consistently. It has just been a LONG time since that has happened for Houston. Hell it may not happen again for a LONG, LONG time Mike. Deal with it.

For the record, I got a degree from UT.
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When it comes down to it, you play the teams you are scheduled. CAL played its schedule better than UT..end of story.
It takes more than that. Otherwise, Utah would be the #1 team in the country.
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I am sure many UT whorns cannot see that becuase they have their burnt orange colored glasses on. Hell the majority of UT fans never went to UT and are just the college version of Cowboy fan.....bandwagon fan that follows the current winners (where were all the UT fans back in the 90s?_! -- nevermind, they were FlaSt fans or A&M fans!

Well I went to UT but didn't graduate from there. I'm no bandwagon fan. As for the Cowboy fan remark I had season tickets for over a decade and it was the same fans, year in and year out.

It's really kind of sad that people that are from Texas or live in Texas cannot support the TEXAS teams that are going to represent in the various bowls. I will be cheering for A & M and I guess Tech is going somewhere so I'll be hoping for a victory for them. It's a state thing for me.

And is it really necessary to call somebody from UT a "whorn" ?
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What the heck is a "whorn" anyway?

Mike has never been objective anyways. His concern over bias is hypocritical, at best.
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I'm pretty sure he is wishing he could change the n at the end of the word to a certain vowel and I guess that's what he thinks of Horn fans.
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It sucks for Cal because they are not a top football program and only get this chance once every 20 years or so. On the other hand UT is a perennial college football power and will alway's be some where near the top.
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Huge, the issue is that many feel that the Pac-10 as a whole is a weak conference, so weak, that the beloved saviors of the Big12 (UT) lost to the 3rd best team in the Pac-10 last year in the Holiday Bowl. Historically, many from the Midwest/South & East have said that West Coast schools are weak. If so, why is it that UT lost last year to a Pac-10 team? Especially when Pac-10 teams are supposed to be very weak...what does that make UT?

It is relevant to today because someone said that UT would whip CAL if they played. So my suggestion is that P10 schools aren't as weak as you think, especially one that barely lost (on the road) to USC (#1 team). UT almost lost to Arkansas & Kansas! Those teams are very vanilla, how would UT's D be able to deal with CAL's arsenal (Arrington, Rodgers & MacArthur)?

As a proud Cougar, I don't always approve of UT. I do not believe in the "follow all Texas schools" because I pledge loyalty to one school, not several in the state. You do what you wish, agree to disagree, etc.

Maybe if the horns fans didn't have their heads so far up their rears (or Bevo's), they would see why no one really likes them. But then again, how could anyone hate on perfection?? Right!


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And is it really necessary to call somebody from UT a "whorn" ?
I don't know...What Would Jesus Do??


As for the problems at UH, it has a lot to do with things many of you would not understand. Student apathy is the main problem, which comes from a very diverse student body, 60% of which do not care about American Football. Another issue is that the city of Houston has so much more to offer college students now with the revamped DT. The commuter-school tie is there as well. Look at other major programs with strong followings....not much else to do in the towns on Saturdays....Norman & College Station are the freaking "sticks", and your only alternative is to go Cow tippin'!

Yes winning does bring the fans in, last year proved that (as did lack of Ws this year). I am proud of my school as a whole, not just for the athletics department, but for the Business school, Science & Engineering Departments and the overall experience of UH ( and Houston community).
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they're from Berkeley d@#% California
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