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Old 03-26-2008   #1
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I think I would go with Jenkins because he would be less of a reach.
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Default Re: If it came down to Jenkins or Albert?

interesting question.......

I like the fact both Gibbs & Rhodes are on board with their expereince Rick & Gary would surely make the right choice.
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Default Re: If it came down to Jenkins or Albert?

Good question- I'm still just wondering about Jenkins though. All I hear is he isn't committed to tackling and is poor at it. I don't know if we'd like to spend the 18th on that. And Alberts, I really like. It will be interesting what Gibbs has to say about our current OL situation and how "deep" this class is.

If it came to that, I'd be fine with whichever they take. I really have a lot of trust in this current staff. If the pick is Jenkins, It'd be telling me that Kubiak and Smith may like some OL guys in the 3rd/4th that would fit in perfect. It'd also be saying that CB is still a high priority and that Jenkins could become our #1- we'd have a much improved secondary, esp. if Dunta comes back fully healthy to take over the #2 spot. Reeves and Bennett would be solid to have behind Jenkins/Robinson.

If the pick is Albert, It'd tell me that Kubiak and Gibbs think they have a future HOF or pro bowl Offensive lineman. We desperately need to protect Schaub better and get better at opening holes for our RB's. Gibbs is one part of the solution- them taking albert would tell me we're going to have a top 5 OL in a couple years!

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Default Re: If it came down to Jenkins or Albert?

Albert because he's got all pro potential, I dont think Jenkins has that same ability.
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Albert because he's got all pro potential, I dont think Jenkins has that same ability.
he has the ability its more a concern of fullfilling that potential
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Default Re: If it came down to Jenkins or Albert?

i would be very disappointed in either of these choices.
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i would be very disappointed in either of these choices.
I second that. Per thread if it had to be, I'd go Jenkins as I see Albert as a maybe LT and I think we are ok at guard.
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I second that. Per thread if it had to be, I'd go Jenkins as I see Albert as a maybe LT and I think we are ok at guard.
if we draft him, its so we can move him over to T.
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Brandon Albert, no question.
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Default Re: If it came down to Jenkins or Albert?

Kind of like the idea of Albert (I think I would prefer Williams). Seems to have a fairly high floor---wind up with a really good guard if he doen't work out at LT---or get a franchise LT on the upper limit. Odds of him not working out at one of those is pretty small IMO. Granted, you would not normaly go out to pick a real good guard at 18, but that is probably the stop loss limit on him.
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Default Re: If it came down to Jenkins or Albert?

Jenkins easily. Albert is a guard, and I think if you're going to draft a guy to move over a position, you should really do it with your later round picks, not with your first.

Plus, Jenkins is probably the best corner available in the draft (IMHO) and draftniks can refute me all they want, but he was the consensus #1 CB pick way before McKelvin and DRC became the hot commodities.
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Default Re: If it came down to Jenkins or Albert?

I'm not sure they would go with either one of these, but if I had to choose, I'd say Albert. Jenkins had a good Combine and will be one of the top CB's in the Draft, but according to WalterFootball.com, he was arrested last spring for fighting outside a bar. No charges were filed, but I don't think the Texans would take a chance on him given their past record with these kinds of players. JMHO!
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Default Re: If it came down to Jenkins or Albert?

Some background on Albert that may illuminate the possibility of him playing tackle despite being a guard at college.

He was a very obscure recruit (two-stars on Rivals) when he verballed to UVA out of high school. He was better known as a basketball player at the time.

Albert prepped for a year (Hargrave), playing LT, where he astonished everyone--his coach there said he was among the best OL he's ever seen. After his prep year, he was a four-star prospect (for all that's worth), but he never waivered from his commitment to UVA despite the increased attention.

UVA recruited him to play tackle, but, in his freshman year, the Hoos had D'Brickashaw Ferguson at LT and another senior, long-time starter at RT. For all his accolades in prep school, Albert was not the most hyped LT recruit in his class--Eugene Monroe from New Jersey was a top 15 overall recruit that year. The coaches really wanted them to see the field from the start, but with the tackle spots locked down that first year, both were tried at guard. Albert won that battle with ease (Monroe is a pure tackle), so he started from the beginning of that year.

A few games into the season, Ferguson got hurt. Rather than weaken two positions by moving Albert, the coaches plugged in Monroe at LT next to Albert. From that point on, Monroe was set at LT while Albert was LG. Maybe Albert was the superior LT, but the line performed better with him playing next to Monroe.

Monroe got hurt and missed two games last year--wins over Middle Tennessee and Pitt--so Albert was moved to LT. Albert seemed to acquit himself well (though I didn't watch either game--screw ESPN-U), though he was not facing future NFL pass rushers in those games.

BOTTOM LINE: Albert was a tackle until UVA switched him to guard to get him on the field. There is certainly a question as to how quickly he will be able to convert back to being a LT at this level after having not played the position much for the last three years.

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Albert. Our Dline is above average. Lets try to help the oline.
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if we draft him, its so we can move him over to T.
That's my point. He is a good guard but I am not sold on him at LT. Just a feeling. Anyway, no at #18.
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He is a good guard but I am not sold on him at LT. Just a feeling. Anyway, no at #18.

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I'm not impressed with his body type for the LT position. I also don't like projecting him to a different position than he specialized in College. seems like a reach even though he is an excellent OL prospect.
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I'm not impressed with his body type for the LT position. I also don't like projecting him to a different position than he specialized in College. seems like a reach even though he is an excellent OL prospect.
Not arguing with you or any of the Gibbs' walks the water crowd with the late round picks....what I will say is alberts will give them two guys....no matter what position he plays, who can get into space and knock someone in the dirt. If he makes the flip to OLT...fine....if he can't we just got a bragin high end gaurd who rolls folks...conistantly.... on the second level...we can always use that.
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I would go with Jenkins. I still beleive he is the best corner in the draft. McKelvin and DRC are two guys I really like, and guys I would like to have at 18, but I think Jenkins is the best corner in this draft.

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It'd also be saying that CB is still a high priority and that Jenkins could become our #1- we'd have a much improved secondary, esp. if Dunta comes back fully healthy to take over the #2 spot. Reeves and Bennett would be solid to have behind Jenkins/Robinson.
It would a much, much improved secondary from a year ago.

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I'm not impressed with his body type for the LT position. I also don't like projecting him to a different position than he specialized in College. seems like a reach even though he is an excellent OL prospect.
This is pretty much how I feel about Alberts. He is a great guard prospect, but I have questions about taking him as high as 18 as an LT prospect. We have young guards that Gibbs should be able to put a fire under. While it would be nice to have a stud guard, we would be drafting him as an LT.

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Not arguing with you or any of the Gibbs' walks the water crowd with the late round picks....what I will say is alberts will give them two guys....no matter what position he plays, who can get into space and knock someone in the dirt. If he makes the flip to OLT...fine....if he can't we just got a bragin high end gaurd who rolls folks...conistantly.... on the second level...we can always use that.
But we don't need a guard at 18 that might become a LT. We need a LT. If we want to do the "hope he can dance the LT shuffle" in a later round well, maybe. Just not at #18. Not saying he can't. Just have that old uneasy feeling.
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But we don't need a guard at 18 that might become a LT. We need a LT. If we want to do the "hope he can dance the LT shuffle" in a later round well, maybe. Just not at #18. Not saying he can't. Just have that old uneasy feeling.
he has all the measureables, long arms, frame 6-6 309 & according to Lance the best feet of any tackle in the draft. if thats not enough to change your mind watch some game tape displayof abiltiy to move in space or listen an interview, impressive.

I'll take my chances, not that high of risk with huge reward/upside. reminds me of Amobi Okoye, just really, really bright just scratching the surface of his abilities. he did not play LT @ Virginia because the positions been filled, first there was D'Brickashaw Ferguson, then Eugene Monore the #1 high school LT prospect in the nation (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com...p?pr_key=22129) here is Brandon Alberts high school bio, looks like he's lost some weight http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com...p?pr_key=31397
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