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Old 03-25-2008   #61
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I had a lengthy back and forth email exchange with a writer from a Sporting News recently who was passing along offensive line myths in one of his recent articles. He was shocked to learn that McKinney, Pitts, and Weary were in the starting lineup in the Texans first game ever. Yeah, two were rooks but he now sees the light a little more clearly.
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It's a shame Corey Bradford didn't play a bigger role in us winning that game.



It's kind of funny (not really) that it took us (me and the majority of fans) to realize how many of the sacks really were on DC. I truthfully didn't realize the extent of it until Schaub lined up behind center.

I looked at the play-by-play from game 1 against dallas. And i was just kind of saddened when looking at our passing plays. It basically went like this: Carr incomplet pass....inc. pass...inc. pass....inc. pass... touchdown to bradford...inc. pass..inc pass,...inc pass...inc pass...touchdown to bradford...inc. pass....-3 yards to running back....inc. pass...5 yd pass to running back, etc.

yikes.
I was a big time kool aid drinker in regards to Carr....
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Surprising thing about him was that he turned out to be good buddies with Carr after a lot of speculation that he didn't like him.

He was a good guy, but one thing I won't miss is hearing him talking about eating samwiches in the bathroom.
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Well, I for one was a little surprised at McKinney's release. It has been my thought (as well as others) that Steve would come into TC and battle it out with Myers and others for the starting position. I figured, worst case scenario, that Steve would be the backup Center/Guard, and I guess he still could be if he comes back for less money. But now it looks like this is Myers job (Center) to lose. I just wonder how much the money really had to do with this like they say, or maybe this is a Gibbs move to start getting his kind of players in position.
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I was a little surprised as well because of the cap implications (could have held onto him through training camp) and his versatility and experience (with all the younglings at guard), but Smith and co.'s record suggests that older guys that end the season on IR don't come back. The fact that it was an ACL and he wasn't a great run blocker to begin with when they ran zone in the Capers era could have factored in as well.
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if he doesn't come back, farewell to steve, who gave his all for the texans, for very little appreciation. I respect and admire your service to the team, and wish you the best.
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With all the new names popping up more on the roster on the interior I thought this was only a matter of time. I'm not so sure things look good for Weary either at this point. The door is open for both but i wouldn't count on either being up for a starting position.

I didn't mind Steve at guard but being trotted out as a center did it for me. I'm glad we went and made the move for Myers. Thanks Steve you did your best and that's really all I can really ask from a player.
I don't see what you're saying. I mean you have a right to an oppinion but I would say the opposite as far as who we had available. Flanigan looked absolutely terrible at center, our running game didnt even get going until mckinney took over. I'm not saying the guy was a pro-bowler or anything but besides the injuries, I don't think he was a bad center at all.
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I'm a little sad to see Steve go, but with the signing of Myers this outcome wasn't unexpected. If he does find a job with another team then I wish him the best of luck, but if he doesn't I hope he'll consider coming back to the Texans in some capacity.
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He was a great part of the team, I hope he returns as a Guard.
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I don't see what you're saying. I mean you have a right to an oppinion but I would say the opposite as far as who we had available. Flanigan looked absolutely terrible at center, our running game didnt even get going until mckinney took over. I'm not saying the guy was a pro-bowler or anything but besides the injuries, I don't think he was a bad center at all.
Part of the problem indeed was who was available. I never liked the idea of Steve going to center but the injury bug combined with how bad Flannigan looked pushed him there. He was adequate, at best, playing center and to be honest just because he is an original texan being cut shouldn't gloss that over.

Barring a great offer from another team I'm fairly sure he'll resign. I'll be glad to welcome him back as a backup guard.
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the thing i always liked about him was that he seemed like a true fan of this team. an employee yes, but a fan of the texans as well. i too wish him the best and hope he returns in any capacity.

i am a huge chris white fan and i hope he's given a shot to compete with meyers.
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Part of the problem indeed was who was available. I never liked the idea of Steve going to center but the injury bug combined with how bad Flannigan looked pushed him there. He was adequate, at best, playing center and to be honest just because he is an original texan being cut shouldn't gloss that over.

Barring a great offer from another team I'm fairly sure he'll resign. I'll be glad to welcome him back as a backup guard.
What are you talking about? McKinney was a hell of alot better at C than at G. You have it completely backwards. Go look up the Off-production in games he played Center compared to the games he played Guard and tell me there isnt a noticeable difference.
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Great interview happening on 1560 the Game with McKinney. Right now.

I'm sure they are going to podcast it.

Good info, and really really funny in places.
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Great interview happening on 1560 the Game with McKinney. Right now.

I'm sure they are going to podcast it.

Good info, and really really funny in places.
Please provide a recap when it is over.
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Only caught part of it. It's ongoing and there is a lot of funny irrelevant stuff too. (Raymond showed up).

The key information is that the Texans were uncomfortable going into OTAs and camps with no healthy center. Ergo Myers. McKinney wishes the timing of this was a little different. Yeah, teams are probably not that interested in olinemen with messed knee, but he wishes that teams knew that he might be an option. But he doesn't really crush them for it, because he understands.

I missed the beginning so I am waiting for the podcast.
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Rounding things off, Steve was due a salary of $1.35 mil this year and plus a pro-rated bonus amount of $1 mil per year (2 years remaining) for a total cap hit of $2.35 mil.

June 1st cut (and teams can now cut people before June 1st and still designate two players as June 1st cuts)--then you have $1 mil of dead money in 2008 and another in 2009. Re-sign him and you are at $1.85 mil this year. Not a whole lot of cap savings there.
That's why I don't think the Texans will re-sign McKinney. Unless they incur an injury on the O-line in the preseason, and McKinney is still available. This was more about the Texans wanting to go with guys like White, Studdard, and Frye as backups than it was about the money. McKinney isn't getting any better, the young guys could.
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Faggins has cost us many many big plays agansit us ..... i cringe
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Part of the problem indeed was who was available. I never liked the idea of Steve going to center but the injury bug combined with how bad Flannigan looked pushed him there. He was adequate, at best, playing center and to be honest just because he is an original texan being cut shouldn't gloss that over.

Barring a great offer from another team I'm fairly sure he'll resign. I'll be glad to welcome him back as a backup guard.
Never, but never use the word resign, rather use re-sign. Or you will be chastised as was I by the language gods! Beware! Beware, I say!
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Heresay, but I homie of mine in Houston said he heard on 610 that the Cowboys may be looking to pick him up.
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Heresay, but I homie of mine in Houston said he heard on 610 that the Cowboys may be looking to pick him up.
Maybe Dallas could become to Texans what Texans are to Denver?
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