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Old 03-23-2008   #121
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Just curious to the people whom think Quinn signed as a back-up to our back-up,

what do you ya'll think is the reason for Quinn taking less moneys and a lesser role to play here, when he could've gotten more of both elsewhere(he had 4 different choice).
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they will also have generated some extra cap room (I think).
Getting rid of Sage would create $1 mil in dead money, but would net $350k in cap space.
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Default Re: QB Quinn Gray to visit the Texans

i think its interesting that he only signed a 1 year contract. i was honestly expecting about a 3 year deal if we were serious about trading away sage (and thats not saying it wont happen). but assuming we trade away sage and gray is the backup, what options are we going to have for 2009? do we just resign gray or do we look elsewhere?
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By any measuring stick, Smith and Kubiak have done terrific things. Trading Sage Rosenfels wouldn't be a step in the right direction.
justice should be telling gary and rick what to do.. i mean he was right about so many other things- mari... wait il get something

point being whatever the FO decide to do, i think they've built up such a large amount of goodwill from their previous decisions that we should give them the benefit of the doubt.. what has justice done to think he can criticise them over how they handle situations?
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This may make more sense if we trade Sage and then pickup say John David Booty in the 3rd to groom as the QB of the future. Carry Sage, Auinn and Booty in 08 and then let Quinn go in 09 and move forward with Booty as the 2. Not sure that is what they have planed, but it has an element of sense as Booty is supposidly the prototypical WCO QB.
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This may make more sense if we trade Sage and then pickup say John David Booty in the 3rd to groom as the QB of the future. Carry Sage, Auinn and Booty in 08 and then let Quinn go in 09 and move forward with Booty as the 2. Not sure that is what they have planed, but it has an element of sense as Booty is supposidly the prototypical WCO QB.
Schaub is the QB of the future. I believe that the FO wants to carry 3 QB's because of the rash of QB injuries. Trading Rosenfels would be a huge mistake.
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This may make more sense if we trade Sage and then pickup say John David Booty in the 3rd to groom as the QB of the future. Carry Sage, Auinn and Booty in 08 and then let Quinn go in 09 and move forward with Booty as the 2. Not sure that is what they have planed, but it has an element of sense as Booty is supposidly the prototypical WCO QB.
yuck! sorry i havent watched booty much but the idea of trading sage and spending a day 1 pick (im old school ) on anothe backup qb defeats the purpose of the exercise- keep sage and avoid the risk if thats the plan.. anything in the late rd picks (5-7) is ok for a qb in my book
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This may make more sense if we trade Sage and then pickup say John David Booty in the 3rd to groom as the QB of the future. Carry Sage, Auinn and Booty in 08 and then let Quinn go in 09 and move forward with Booty as the 2. Not sure that is what they have planed, but it has an element of sense as Booty is supposidly the prototypical WCO QB.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...avidbooty.html

Sounds like a carbon copy of Schaub.
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I'm not sure that the injury situation was bad enough last year to change Kubiak's mnd about only carrying 2 QBs.
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This may make more sense if we trade Sage and then pickup say John David Booty in the 3rd to groom as the QB of the future. Carry Sage, Auinn and Booty in 08 and then let Quinn go in 09 and move forward with Booty as the 2. Not sure that is what they have planed, but it has an element of sense as Booty is supposidly the prototypical WCO QB.
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Just say NO to BOOTY.
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Could there be some kind of incentive/playing time/roster make-up clause in the contract that we have yet to hear about?
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Just curious to the people whom think Quinn signed as a back-up to our back-up,

what do you ya'll think is the reason for Quinn taking less moneys and a lesser role to play here, when he could've gotten more of both elsewhere(he had 4 different choice).
Now granted Gray signed for minimum, but why is it everyone assumes he is settling for less money? In everything I read no where does it state the offers he was getting else where.

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I still can't believe Gray didn't get a better offer. He visited Green Bay and Oakland. He has a trip to Buffalo lined up, but rather than take it, he's going to sign with the Texans. Does he know something about Rosenfels that we don't? No, he doesn't. He knows what we know, that the Vikings offered a third-round pick and were turned down. So far, they still don't have the quality backup they want, so perhaps they'll return with a better offer.

Even McClain says he is speculating on the fact he did not have a better offer.

I am just not a huge fan of speculations about this type of things. Minnesota is looking for a backup and they did not try real hard to sign Gray, instead they would preferr to trade for Sage. Not sure what people are seeing or I should say not seeing in Gray which makes him a not so hot commodity.

This is very interresting and could change our draft or just the amount of speculation (If that is possible).
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I just got it. Reason why he sign to minimum was because if he signed for #2 money then the other teams know for sure Sage is on his way out, which would lower his value. So they're waiting after Sage is traded, to actually put out the real number/give him the real contract, which might be around 3 years? maybe.

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I just got it. Reason why he sign to minimum was because if he signed for #2 money then the other teams know for sure Sage is on his way out, which would lower his value. So they're waiting after Sage is traded, to actually put out the real number/give him the real contract, which might be around 3 years? maybe.
that's a nice theory, just might be true
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Now granted Gray signed for minimum, but why is it everyone assumes he is settling for less money? In everything I read no where does it state the offers he was getting else where.
He's still taking on a lesser role, and since its a one-year contract, wouldn't he want to be atleast a back-up and have a chance to show-off his talents and ability, hoping to get paid after his one-year end? Besides, he didn't even finish his trip, he was still schedule for Buf.
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Now I really expect Sage to be traded. Once that happens, I either expect Gray's contract to be extended, modified, or we'll wait. Gray may have been told that there's a strong likelihood Sage will be traded but do NOT say anything... b/c then again Sage can stay on the team.

I think Gray sees a great opportunity like he said. Our organization is really starting to turn some heads as a place where players want to go, mostly because of where everyone thinks the team is headed and because of the Staff they have in place. Gray could very well be thinking, I'm willing to take less money in Houston because that's where I want to be, Sage may be traded, and they may extend my contract for the higher amount I will want/get in the future at another team.

I like Sage a lot but hope we can get a good deal for him. I feel comfortable having Schaub and Gray as our QB's.
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yuck! sorry i havent watched booty much but the idea of trading sage and spending a day 1 pick (im old school ) on anothe backup qb defeats the purpose of the exercise- keep sage and avoid the risk if thats the plan.. anything in the late rd picks (5-7) is ok for a qb in my book
Yeah, I don't want to spend another 3rd rounder on a QB. We've gone that route once. Don't want to again.
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Why would he even want to vist?It seems we are set at QB.I think he is just waisting time? Is that just dumb of me to say?
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