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Old 03-14-2008   #21
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"must spread some rep around..."

my te@ le@ves tell me Ronnie is *gone*. The only quetion rem@ining now is when do they do it ?
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They've pretty much have already done it. In addition to us signing Brown he's an UFA and we haven't offered him anything.

Of course nobody else is ringing his door bell either. Wonder why?
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Seriously C Brown is not a short yardage back.
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Old 03-14-2008   #23
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773 yards last season, 4 per carry, 1 fumble, zero lost. This was with a mediocre line and pass game. Hasn't been injury prone and since he's usually been a back up he's not used up. Hopefully Green and Brown won't both go down or we may miss Dayne.
Not true.

I was actually on the field the day where he hurt himself in pregame warmups in 2006. The gameplan was all about him against the Browns, and they couldn't depend on him to be on the field.

When he's been dinged, it has limited his time on the field.

Before we evaluate the back situation, I think we need to see who comes to camp.

It may be that the guy who gets the most of the carries this season is someone you may not have imagined, may not be on the team.
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Seriously C Brown is not a short yardage back.
Dayne is only a short yardage back in the sense that all his runs are for short yards. He's never been a successful back in short yardage situations.
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Dude, fix your keyboard. LOL
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Unless Green is only @ble to cr@wl onto the prctice feild....they
@re not going to e@t th@t contr@ct... they would be @dmitting they m@de @ mist@ke. They @ren't going to do th@t untill the horse is shot, stone cold de@d, @nd they're throwing lime on the corpse. This w@s @ cle@r sign@l...better buck up there...they @in't dr@fting @ Rb in the top nintey pl@yers. Not going to h@ppen.
Okay, I got to know. How much more time consuming isn't to type an "@" instead of "A" in your posts. Must already be a hunt and peck typer.....LOL.
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Before we evaluate the back situation, I think we need to see who comes to camp.

It may be that the guy who gets the most of the carries this season is someone you may not have imagined, may not be on the team.
Domanick Davis/Williams. Why the hell not?
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With the injury histories of Green, Brown, and Taylor...Dayne should keep the phone nearby.
My prediction. If someone else doesn't pick him up for depth then the Texans keep Dayne's number close. We signed him late last year too and for the longest time I didn't think he was going to be back. Then one day I read that they signed him cheap.

That may not happen this year but I think if Dayne hasn't been signed by someone by the time training camp gets here then he's probably the first street free agent that they call if they have another attack of the injury bug.
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Dayne is only a short yardage back in the sense that all his runs are for short yards. He's never been a successful back in short yardage situations.
i thought he was just fat. i thought that was what he brought to the table. was that not his contribution to this team? i'm confused by these other titles. "short yardage back" etc. ... "fat" that's what he was.
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How bout we trade Rosenfels and our fifth for Minnesota's second and we draft Ray Rice with that pick. And then we draft a QB in the fourth or sixth. Of course, this could only happen if Rice is available in the second. SO the trade would have to go through when Vikings are on the clock.
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I must be way off the mark here, but I feel the only reason Dayne has started for the Texans over the last two years was because he was the only one healthy enough to play. Even when he was injured you could count on him to pound it out for a couple of yards. he wore down some D-lines and was breaking them down by the forth quarter last year.

I am fully aware that if Ron Dayne was our number one prospect as a starter next season, than we would be in big trouble, but why risk everything on three backs with injury issues who we could feasibly see all three on the IR by mid-season?

We can resign Dayne for a low price. I don't remember him coughing up the ball, so he seems like an ideal fit for the team in second half lead situations. I also remember the short yardage situations where he didn't seem to fight for the 1 yard on 3rd and 1, but I remember several plays where everyone in the stadium knew Dayne was going to run it up the gut and he did for 4-5 yards. Even if it is for nothing more than insurance, we should try to keep him.

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I think we are playing the waiting game with Dayne. If there isn't a market for him than we have all the leverage in dealing with him. Right now he has the leverage because of what he has been able to do for us. He may command a little more this time around. When you mix in the RB prospects in the draft, Dayne starts to not be so attractive to sign.
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he wore down some D-lines and was breaking them down by the forth quarter last year.
I'd actually give credit to the O-line for that...



Personally I don't care whether they re-sign Dayne or not...He'd atleast provide added competition in camp...

What I'd like to see them do is just grab a RB in the draft, and pick up a couple undrafted FA's...

All that aside...If we are depending on Ron Dayne at any point next year as our primary back I don't think that's a good thing regardless...
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One of the things that hurts Ron Dayne as a reserve RB is his inability to help on special teams. If the Texans are going to carry 3 backs, that 3rd back has to contribute something in the kicking game. Taylor has done that in the past. If the Texans draft a RB in the later rounds, he'll be expected to help there, as well.
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I really do like Ron Dayne. I like what he's brought to our team. He and Salaam remind me of each other in the fact neither were originally viewed to be our starters for a long period but they had to step up and I think did, to an extent.

I would most always support Dayne on our team but I think he now has a limited shot of making the squad. There's just not enough spots to go around. With Ahman Green and Chris Brown, Chris Taylor, plus they will be looking to draft a quality running back... I think competition is great but don't know if Dayne would make the team because we have 2 veterans and are looking to have some young talent to grow more towards the future.
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Dayne may be a last day addition as stated above. I think roster will be Brown, Taylor, draft pick and maybe a practice squad guy. Most are saying Walker can't play in new system. mmm maybe.
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It seems he plays better in the 2nd half of the season when he gets in shape or the defenses are tired??? He doesn't fumble, and 245 pounds is a lot to bring down any way you slice it.
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I'll always root for Dayne since he played a major role in helping us beat the Colts, but I think the Texans are ready to move on for several reasons. Sherm's gone, and with him goes alot of the power running schemes that he brought. Dayne probably doesn't fit the ZBS as well (he obviously can run it somewhat or he wouldn't have made it in Denver) as the guys we have/are planning to bring in. Also, Kubiak understandably is constantly looking for guys who offer big play ability. Dayne had some huge holes last year that he'd steam through for 20-30 yards. You give a guy like Green or Brown that same hole and they'll take it to the house.

Dayne was a good player for us, he always ran hard and did everything we asked of him but we're changing our ground game and going in another direction. Even if we bring Dayne back I don't think he makes it through training camp without getting cut unless another back goes down with an injury.

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I'll always root for Dayne since he played a major role in helping us beat the Colts, but I think the Texans are ready to move on for several reasons. Sherm's gone, and with him goes alot of the power running schemes that he brought. Dayne probably doesn't fit the ZBS as well (he obviously can run it somewhat or he wouldn't have made it in Denver) as the guys we have/are planning to bring in. Also, Kubiak understandably is constantly looking for guys who offer big play ability. Dayne had some huge holes last year that he'd steam through for 20-30 yards. You give a guy like Green or Brown that same hole and they'll take it to the house.

Dayne was a good player for us, he always ran hard and did everything we asked of him but we're changing our ground game and going in another direction. Even if we bring Dayne back I don't think he makes it through training camp without getting cut unless another back goes down with an injury.
Really???? Even on crutches?
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I must be way off the mark here, but I feel the only reason Dayne has started for the Texans over the last two years was because he was the only one healthy enough to play. Even when he was injured you could count on him to pound it out for a couple of yards. he wore down some D-lines and was breaking them down by the forth quarter last year.

I am fully aware that if Ron Dayne was our number one prospect as a starter next season, than we would be in big trouble, but why risk everything on three backs with injury issues who we could feasibly see all three on the IR by mid-season?

We can resign Dayne for a low price. I don't remember him coughing up the ball, so he seems like an ideal fit for the team in second half lead situations. I also remember the short yardage situations where he didn't seem to fight for the 1 yard on 3rd and 1, but I remember several plays where everyone in the stadium knew Dayne was going to run it up the gut and he did for 4-5 yards. Even if it is for nothing more than insurance, we should try to keep him.

My 2 cents.
When Chris was in Denver Dayne was a running back. I was pretty upset myself when he left. I really thought he was a bruiser back. He is a tough guy to bring down and he gives his body up for yardage when he needs to. Not always smart to do that but I really hate seeing backs get paid big money and run out of bounds. Dayne drives into people and takes them out.
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