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Old 03-17-2008   #81
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This signing I like. A fresh center. That also allows us to move McKinney back to guard. Unless of course they leave Steve at center and move Myers to guard.


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I like getting extra picks, but I really don’t understand giving up a young, versatile o-lineman who has 3 years in the organization. Unless there was some trouble behind the scenes, I can’t understand this move at all…..
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There’s just so much about this I don’t understand. First of all, why we would let this happen is beyond me. This is a lot of faith to show in an aging, recently injury-prone interior line. Anyone want to lay odds on a 36 year old center coming off a season-ending injury making it through a whole season without missing any time? Secondly why did we bother making this a trade? It sounds like it would have gone down exactly the same way if the Texans had just signed him to an offer sheet. It just seems weird. I absolutely hate this move, hate it with a fiery passion. It’s not like we entered this offseason without a ton of personnel needs, and it seems like all we’ve done is create more holes while signing underacheivers and practice-squad caliber bums to “fill” the old holes. We better have the BEST draft ever if we want to be competitive in the next few seasons. Look here comes Keary Colbert and Marlon McCree to save the day… Yeesh. BOOOOO, front office, BOOOOO!
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and they express a general tone about the trade (from the Broncos perspective), which is one of puzzlement and disapproval.
Sounds like a real good deal for us, especially if it only cost us a 6th rounder.
I dunno if I'd have a problem with it even if it were a 4th rounder: only 27 yet
versatile as he started all year for the Broncos at both guard & center. And
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This is one of the few cases where I don't mind giving up a draft pick. It's a low pick, it's for a young player who will be a starter, and the contract is very affordable.
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I like getting extra picks, but I really don’t understand giving up a young, versatile o-lineman who has 3 years in the organization. Unless there was some trouble behind the scenes, I can’t understand this move at all…..
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There’s just so much about this I don’t understand. First of all, why we would let this happen is beyond me. This is a lot of faith to show in an aging, recently injury-prone interior line. Anyone want to lay odds on a 36 year old center coming off a season-ending injury making it through a whole season without missing any time? Secondly why did we bother making this a trade? It sounds like it would have gone down exactly the same way if the Texans had just signed him to an offer sheet. It just seems weird. I absolutely hate this move, hate it with a fiery passion. It’s not like we entered this offseason without a ton of personnel needs, and it seems like all we’ve done is create more holes while signing underacheivers and practice-squad caliber bums to “fill” the old holes. We better have the BEST draft ever if we want to be competitive in the next few seasons. Look here comes Keary Colbert and Marlon McCree to save the day… Yeesh. BOOOOO, front office, BOOOOO!
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These 2 different comments on the transaction are from the Broncos website
and they express a general tone about the trade (from the Broncos perspective), which is one of puzzlement and disapproval.

Sounds like a real good deal for us, especially if it only cost us a 6th rounder.
I dunno if I'd have a problem with it even if it were a 4th rounder: only 27 yet
versatile as he started all year for the Broncos at both guard & center. And
in the ZB system to boot. I think I like it !
It may be just me, but I think you should move the emboldened statement to the beginning of your post. I was confused for a while, thinking that those two sentences where from you, not the Broncos MB...
On the other hand, it has been a loooooooonnnnnnnngggg work day, and I am usually easy to confuse...
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He's young and still should have upside. Hope we made out like bandits on this one! It does seem curious that a team would give up a young lineman that started 16 games for them last year for only a 6th pick. Especially when most of their line is aging. I know I wouldn't do it.

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holy crap, this is the best move of the offseason, i'm developing a man crush on mr. smith, anyone else
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This is a very solid pickup IMO. Kudos to Rick and the boys.
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This signing I like. A fresh center. That also allows us to move McKinney back to guard. Unless of course they leave Steve at center and move Myers to guard.


I think this is going to move McKinney back to the streets. He is an older player that has been hurt two years in a row. Not to mention that he was going to be a bench player if not for Flanagan being really really bad.

I would be surprised to see either McKinney or Green make it out of training camp and be apart of the opening day 52 man roster.
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I think this is going to move McKinney back to the streets. He is an older player that has been hurt two years in a row. Not to mention that he was going to be a bench player if not for Flanagan being really really bad.

I would be surprised to see either McKinney or Green make it out of training camp and be apart of the opening day 52 man roster.
Flanagan must have been the most non-athletic center i've ever seen.
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Myers, Thompson and Bentley are signings like Anthony Maddox last year. These are low risk, low cost but potentially high value transactions.
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Myers, Thompson and Bentley are signings like Anthony Maddox last year. These are low risk, low cost but potentially high value transactions.
Was it me or did Maddox seem to out play Travis ?
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This a great move for the Texans. I have no idea why the Broncos wouldn't match the deal unless they are in cap hell and have enough depth to cover the center spot.

I am not so down on Steve. He has been a decent O-Lineman for years for us.

I thought Demps and Davis were the main free agents on the roster we needed to lock up and we did. They have gone out and got faster, younger and more athletic at outside linebacker. Even though most of you hate it, Brown isn't a bad move at RB.

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I think this is a great signing, although I'm still not sure how we ended up with 2 of Denvers prototypical ZBS centers. We now have Myers and Eslinger, both picked for their system, both young and very coachable. I think Rick Smith is one of the best signings in Texan's History. I believe we are now in the list of top offseason teams in the conference. We didnt go big marquee moves, but I think we got very good value at every move. We can now securely go BPA at 18 regardless of position. I think with the depth of secondary players in the draft we could easily fill our needs there on day 2 if a good pick is there at 18. JMO
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One technical question with this being a trade rather than a free agent signing, how does the signing bonus etc get effected? Does this get traded too or are the Broncos paying this still??

On the signing itself, I think that it is a great pick up.
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I am pretty pleased with this deal. Getting a 6th rounder w/ 3 yrs experience in your system is like a Mastercard Commercial. Priceless.
I see a lot of people saying they aren't down about McKinney. I remember a ton of posts on here crucifying the guy before we got Flanagan and saw just how bad it could really be. I think McKinney could be a value to us as depth, but I'm way too busy at work to look up his cap hit if he makes the team.
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So with the signing of Myers, we now know 3 out of 5 starting linemen for years to come. Going left to right, LT is still an unknown....LG is Mr.Reliable Chester Pitts....C Chris Myers....RG is an unknown....RT is "The Caveman" Eric Winston. Which makes my predictions of OG Brandon Albert in Round 1 and LT Tony Hills in Round 3 all the more worth it.
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I am pretty pleased with this deal. Getting a 6th rounder w/ 3 yrs experience in your system is like a Mastercard Commercial. Priceless.
I see a lot of people saying they aren't down about McKinney. I remember a ton of posts on here crucifying the guy before we got Flanagan and saw just how bad it could really be. I think McKinney could be a value to us as depth, but I'm way too busy at work to look up his cap hit if he makes the team.
I agree about McKinney, I think I would like to see Eslinger or Myers win the starting job, but McKinney is still valuable as a interior backup, especially in the running game. Last year there was no comparison between Flanagan and McKinney.
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One technical question with this being a trade rather than a free agent signing, how does the signing bonus etc get effected? Does this get traded too or are the Broncos paying this still??

On the signing itself, I think that it is a great pick up.
The deal was done as a sign and trade as a courtesy to Myers and the Texans. If it had been done by letting Denver refuse to match the offer, a certain amount of time would have to go by before it was final (not sure exactly how much).

As far as the bonus, Denver was performing a courtesy, but it didn't extend to bonus dollars either in cash or cap space. Nice thought though.
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