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Old 03-11-2008   #21
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Brown is a frustrating type player. he does not totally suck, but between his injury issues (never really major) and just enough fumbling he drives a person to
I see you've had him in fantasy football as well.
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I see you've had him in fantasy football as well.
How could you take a titan back, it seems like a very dangerous proposition as far as TD go.
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I'll pass. Don't want him, don't need him, wouldn't use him if you gave him to me.
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Are Darius Walker and Chris Taylor still eligable for the practice squad? Because if we bring in another RB I don't know if there is enough room for both of them but they have both looked good. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if we don't touch the RB position. We signed Ahman Green who will hopefully be atleast somewhat servicable this year. Darius and Chris have both show promise and given the chance I think they both could carry the load. I'd like to shore up the defense in the draft, especially on the first day, with a CB in the first and a OLB in the third. With Alex Gibbs as a coach I think that we will be fine with what we have. We don't need to be sniffing around guys like Chris Brown.
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Let me guess, Shaun Alexander is next?
Not just yet. We're waiting for the Seahawks to finish breaking him in first. He's our primary free agent target in 09'
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Not just yet. We're waiting for the Seahawks to finish breaking him in first. He's our primary free agent target in 09'
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I do not believe Chris Brown would be considered as a replacement for Dayne in that he does not tend to do well in the Red Zone.
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How is this different from Ron Dayne? Did Dayne become "Dangerous" in the red zone and I didn't get a memo?
Exactly. I'd say that makes them pretty similar.
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Exactly. I'd say that makes them pretty similar.

I think that's not by accident, the Texans are masters at cheap insurance in camp. I think Kubes and company are just hedging their bets in case the guy they want isnt available in the draft. Then after the draft they will hedge some more with the UDFA market. I would think people would have caught on by now.
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I think that's not by accident, the Texans are masters at cheap insurance in camp. I think Kubes and company are just hedging their bets in case the guy they want isnt available in the draft. Then after the draft they will hedge some more with the UDFA market. I would think people would have caught on by now.
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good talent, more risk than most would like, and minimal salary ... sounds accurate to me. if he signs, he signs low or not at all. if he earns a spot and plays, great - he's got the talent to make an impact. if not, no major loss. i like it ... a lot of upside with little downside (outside of fumbles). i know that young backups are automatically fan favorites, but i'd rather sign every minimum available than hope that taylor & walker are hall of fame bound.

and i'll stick up for dayne, in his role as a grinder he was solid and filled in admirably as a starter because our main backs couldnt. he did his job and then some, give him the credit that one of the worst tackles in football (salaam) gets for his efforts. dayne earned his check.
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and i'll stick up for dayne, in his role as a grinder he was solid and filled in admirably as a starter because our main backs couldnt. he did his job and then some, give him the credit that one of the worst tackles in football (salaam) gets for his efforts. dayne earned his check.
exactly, he did what was asked of him.
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Injury prone and a waste of time.
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Injury prone and a waste of time.

Kinda ruins youre argument about getting a RB in the first round huh?

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Dude don't take the bait this is a complete smoke screen for the other teams to bite on. It's obvious the Texans are going to draft a running back really high because they haven't done anything in free agency to at least address the position. IMO the texans are poised to draft a running back in round 1 which one we don't know but all of moves are pointing in that direction.
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Gee kinda sounds like Fred Taylor to me. On the bright side he would probably be injured less since he wouldn't be getting laid out by our DBs twice a year.
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How is this different from Ron Dayne? Did Dayne become "Dangerous" in the red zone and I didn't get a memo?
I like many aspects of Brown's game, but as far as "red zone" performance, I was referring to his fumbling, the rate of which is at least twice that of Dayne (Brown-13 in 5 years,of which 8 were lost/Dayne-7 in 7 years, of which 4 were lost).............and most of those have been in the "red zone" leading to significant fan fraustration.
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Gee kinda sounds like Fred Taylor to me. On the bright side he would probably be injured less since he wouldn't be getting laid out by our DBs twice a year.
I would much rather see our DL and LB's lay out opposing RB's instead of our DB's!!!
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2006 . Hou . 11games . 151rushes . 612yards . 4.1ypc . 19long . 5TD . 2fumble
2007 . Hou . 13games . 194rushes . 773yards . 4.0ypc . 39long . 6TD . 1fumble

2006 . NOR . 16games . 155rushes . 565yards . 3.6ypc . 18long . 6TD . 2fumble:
2007 . NOR . 12games . 157rushes . 581yards . 3.7ypc . 22long . 4TD . 7fumble

the first player is the maligned backup for the texans who earns a near minimum salary and as a minority I hope will be back as #2 this year.

the second player is the best runningback to come out of college in the last 30 years who broke the bank before playing a down. production vs potential means squat in this league.
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2006 . Hou . 11games . 151rushes . 612yards . 4.1ypc . 19long . 5TD . 2fumble
2007 . Hou . 13games . 194rushes . 773yards . 4.0ypc . 39long . 6TD . 1fumble

2006 . NOR . 16games . 155rushes . 565yards . 3.6ypc . 18long . 6TD . 2fumble:
2007 . NOR . 12games . 157rushes . 581yards . 3.7ypc . 22long . 4TD . 7fumble

the first player is the maligned backup for the texans who earns a near minimum salary and as a minority I hope will be back as #2 this year.

the second player is the best runningback to come out of college in the last 30 years who broke the bank before playing a down. production vs potential means squat in this league.

Leaving off Reggies receiving yards is like leaving out VYs rushing yards. Sure it makes your arguement look better but it doesn't paint a full picture. Reggie also had over 1,100 receiving yards over those two seasons. Dayne had under 200 yards receiving over the last two seasons.
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Leaving off Reggies receiving yards is like leaving out VYs rushing yards. Sure it makes your arguement look better but it doesn't paint a full picture. Reggie also had over 1,100 receiving yards over those two seasons. Dayne had under 200 yards receiving over the last two seasons.
it's also like leaving off ted ginn's return numbers and michael griffin's special teams tackles.

domanick davis averaged 400+ yards receiving in our under .500 years. ladainian tomlinson had 100 receptions and 725yds in a 4 win year. if you have no line (chargers replaced 4 starters on their O-line for 04) and an offense built on dumpoffs it's easy to inflate stats without production. where in those awesome yardage numbers are anything over 20yds ... either as a back or receiver? surely there's something ... anything? hello? bueller?

edit: my arguement is to defend dayne for what he's done both in and outside of his role (i'd like to see him back), and to emphasize the need to sign as many cheap and potentially effective backs as possible ... similar to our 06 defensive tackle situation. taking a shot at reggie bust is just a bonus.
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Leaving off Reggies receiving yards is like leaving out VYs rushing yards. Sure it makes your arguement look better but it doesn't paint a full picture. Reggie also had over 1,100 receiving yards over those two seasons. Dayne had under 200 yards receiving over the last two seasons.
True in part, but then you aren't considering his yards per reception which are piss poor even for a RB--Link

DD by the way averaged 8.3 ypc for 939 yards in his first two years. I seem to recall hearing people around Houston talking about how ineffective all those little dump-offs were.
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