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Old 03-10-2008   #21
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As many others in this thread are expressing, I'd also echo the sentiment that boring is good in this situation.
The only thing is that its probably unwise to "underspend", .i.e not a good idea for a team to fail to expend all of its cap resources, though I doubt that that's a concern with the Texans right now ?
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In partial agreement. It has been a mediocre free agency. Our biggest signing was probably resigning Will Demps. Other than that, it's been pretty boring. At the same time, there hasn't been a lot out there for us to sign that would have been a significant upgrade other than if we had signed Michael Turner.
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Still think this is a boring off season? We trade a 6th for a starting center that can also play guard and have an offer for our back up QB. We have not even made it to the draft yet.
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Still think this is a boring off season? We trade a 6th for a starting center that can also play guard and have an offer for our back up QB. We have not even made it to the draft yet.
Definetly picked up in the last week or so.
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this has been a productive offseason. we traded for a center, picked up a serviceable running back that can break a big play, we resigned our two most coveted FAs of our own, lost no one really outside of Danny Clark and probably Weary. We signed a new DB that is already probably our best CB on our roster until Dunta comes back. We got one of the most respected minds in defense to come to town in Ray Rhodes and we got one of the best coaches in the NFL in Alex Gibbs to come to town.

I personally feel they should have gone after Justin Smith and Marlon McCree buts its obvious RS did not agree. We may be waiting to be a little more competitive till we start throwing around the big money.

We had a great offseason imho. Not a big sexy offseason, but we addressed a lot of our deficiencies (coaching, RB, CB) and we didn't lose much.

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this has been a productive offseason. we traded for a center, picked up a serviceable running back that can break a big play, we resigned our two most coveted FAs of our own, lost no one really outside of Danny Clark and probably Weary. We signed a new DB that is already probably our best CB on our roster until Dunta comes back. We got one of the most respected minds in defense to come to town in Ray Rhodes and we got one of the best coaches in the NFL in Alex Gibbs to come to town.

I personally feel they should have gone after Justin Smith and Marlon McCree buts its obvious RS did not agree. We may be waiting to be a little more competitive till we start throwing around the big money.

We had a great offseason imho. Not a big sexy offseason, but we addressed a lot of our deficiencies (coaching, RB, CB) and we didn't lose much.

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Good post and we are going to wrap up with a great draft and just maybe a free agent after June cuts that will add strength.
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But we have a cheap owner who will not go after big time names as far as coaches ar concerned.
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But we have a cheap owner who will not go after big time names as far as coaches ar concerned.
I don't see what you base that on. He has not made any recent ridiculous offers through our new GM. He was not so cheap when he over paid in Casserly's regime for mediocre FA and he stepped up for big bucks on Carr's contract instead of signing a veteran QB and trading down. He offered Mario quite a few dollars rather than making a ridiculous trade down for less quality.
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I don't see what you base that on. He has not made any recent ridiculous offers through our new GM. He was not so cheap when he over paid in Casserly's regime for mediocre FA and he stepped up for big bucks on Carr's contract instead of signing a veteran QB and trading down. He offered Mario quite a few dollars rather than making a ridiculous trade down for less quality.


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I don't see what you base that on.
It was based on prior accusations by SH that McNair was too cheap to hire good coaches or spend money on players.
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But we have a cheap owner who will not go after big time names as far as coaches ar concerned.
back away from the keyboard. prior to this year, we had yet to seriously address our coaching deficiencies...and still have yet to upgrade our defensive playcaller/schemer.

go troll someone else because I am being positive and have been happy with the moves personnel wise as well as the additions to our coaching staff. its funny how I was chided when I said we needed better coaching but its quite obvious that RS shared my opinion and did work.

i try and put a positive spin on something and still someone has to be a smart ass. pure playa hatin'.
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It was based on prior accusations by SH that McNair was too cheap to hire good coaches or spend money on players.
I never said McNair wouldn't spend big money on players but I did say he spent his big money unwisely when had spent it in past. as for the coaching, it is without doubt that we had a subpar coaching staff in years past. RS finally got McNair on board with spending money on coaching and improving the staff...which they have done.

you guys criticize me for being right...thanks a lot.

until this season, we had never ponied up the money it takes to bring in good coaching...whether that was all the fault of McNair, the expansion tag, or the late hiring of Kubiak is up for debate....but he had yet to bring in quality assistants until this year.

RS obviously agreed because they did something about it.

as for the players, if you think they have paid the money it takes to get good players in Free Agency, you are wrong. they have signed the wrong players in the past and RS seems to be changing that.

i could care less what a guy like Spec thinks but Icak, you know they have had a pretty blah coaching staff since Day One and have not really gone out and got top-tier FAs. I don't know what the big debate is. They have had a good offseason. who would have thought people would try and troll me for being positive about our Texans......geez, you just can't win with some people.
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I will change the focus to something less controversial. Does anyone think Sage might be traded?
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you guys criticize me for being right...thanks a lot.
OK I made a joke and folks want to get their panties in a tiffy go right ahead.

Really?? Seriously? SH me and you have gone round and round about him spending money, and your still not right about you calling him cheap. I never said we should not upgrade, what I said, once Kubiak and RS think there is something out there better they will try and get them and McNair would open his wallet up. So NO you were not right you were dead friggin wrong, because McNair was and is not cheap.

Middle of the season you wanted Kubiak fired and the chin hired even though he said he would not coach this next year. Or did you forget about that?

Like I said I made a joke and one person did not understand where I was going with it and one person should have just laughed and said yeah ya got me he spent the money on coaches, but nope ya have to go off and rewrite history.
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It's been a very calm, quiet off-season for the Texans and they've gone about their business in a methodical manner that I think belies how well things have gone for us this year. We've brought in Alex Gibbs and Ray Rhodes to coach. That's just huge but unless a coaching staff just gets all-out purged a hire here and there doesn't make headlines. That's completely fine by me. We've kept guys that I was seriously worried about losing like Andre Davis and Will Demps. Nobody in the media is going to go nuts over our doing that but those are the things that will really help us out next season. We've brought in people who I feel like have a great shot at making a huge impact. Chris Brown could very easily just blow up in this offense if he takes to it and Chris Myers is poised to help get our offensive line started a step or so ahead of where they would normally be.

We're doing good this year in free agency. I'm looking forward to seeing what Gary and Rick pull out of the hat come draft time. I still believe we'll end up with two first day picks. I'm sure of it.
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OK I made a joke and folks want to get their panties in a tiffy go right ahead.

Really?? Seriously? SH me and you have gone round and round about him spending money, and your still not right about you calling him cheap. I never said we should not upgrade, what I said, once Kubiak and RS think there is something out there better they will try and get them and McNair would open his wallet up. So NO you were not right you were dead friggin wrong, because McNair was and is not cheap.

Middle of the season you wanted Kubiak fired and the chin hired even though he said he would not coach this next year. Or did you forget about that?

Like I said I made a joke and one person did not understand where I was going with it and one person should have just laughed and said yeah ya got me he spent the money on coaches, but nope ya have to go off and rewrite history.
he did spend good money on coaches this offseason but he hadn't up to this point. as for wanting Kubiak to be fired, the way the team was playing it looked like they gave up on him. Obviously, that wasnt the case and the team started playing better...and I never spoke of firing Kubes after that. ANyways, I was more of the mindsight of Hiring Chin than Firing Kubes. I just thought Chin could bring us the coaching which we lacked but Kubes and RS have proved they can bring in coaching too. Hopefully it all works out because as much as we argue, we are in the same boat and want the same thing...WINS.

I forget about very little, Spec. I have called McNair cheap before but that doesnt mean he is being cheap now. He has spent money and has shown the willingness to take a risk as well (see Brown and Green at RB). I am giving the guy total credit and I praise this offseason because its the first one where I feel we are taking steps forward and not backwards. I would have liked us to get Justin Smith but the FA money was insane with too much in guarantees this year. It's not going to change but I would rather save the big FA splash for a year that we truly feel we are one or two playmakers away from being championship contenders. I think we are close but we are not there yet. We need to establish consistency in our running game and our pass defense before we can even merit mention of playoffs or Super Bowl.

Once again, this offseason has been great since we have finally upgraded our coaching staff and we have plugged in players that fit our system at positions of need (CB, C, RB) If we can get a good edge rusher DE/OLB, CB/FS, or OT talent in the draft, we would really be sitting pretty.

have a good easter, Spec. from a fellow Texans fan.
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this has been a productive offseason. we traded for a center, picked up a serviceable running back that can break a big play, we resigned our two most coveted FAs of our own, lost no one really outside of Danny Clark and probably Weary. We signed a new DB that is already probably our best CB on our roster until Dunta comes back. We got one of the most respected minds in defense to come to town in Ray Rhodes and we got one of the best coaches in the NFL in Alex Gibbs to come to town.

I personally feel they should have gone after Justin Smith and Marlon McCree buts its obvious RS did not agree. We may be waiting to be a little more competitive till we start throwing around the big money.
We had a great offseason imho. Not a big sexy offseason, but we addressed a lot of our deficiencies (coaching, RB, CB) and we didn't lose much.

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I dissagree on the money thing. When I look at teams that do throw around "the big money" they have not improved anywhere near as much as we have spending half as much. San Francisco, L.A, St. Louis, Detroit, and many others regularly pay big bucks to "Revamp" their teams, and end up relasing or trading that player a few years later. I think the Texans approach of building through the draft is much more effective. Just my oppinion though.
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I dissagree on the money thing. When I look at teams that do throw around "the big money" they have not improved anywhere near as much as we have spending half as much. San Francisco, L.A, St. Louis, Detroit, and many others regularly pay big bucks to "Revamp" their teams, and end up relasing or trading that player a few years later. I think the Texans approach of building through the draft is much more effective. Just my oppinion though.
Actually, I think the 9er's defense was pretty good last year after that big defensive offseason they had. :o

It was the offense that lost them all of those games.

And who's L.A.?

But I have to agree on your overall post, our way of doing things is much more effective. Even if it's not very sexy. ;o
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