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Old 03-05-2008   #121
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Phillips is the most overrated player in this draft. If he hadnt played for Miami (S U) he would be rated a second rounder at best.
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Phillips is the most overrated player in this draft. If he hadnt played for Miami (S U) he would be rated a second rounder at best.
he had an off 07 but one could argue he was the best defensive player in football in 06 as a sophomore....dude is gonna be a quality pro more than meriting a #18 pick. As the draft approaches, dont be surprised if he starts going up on most boards.
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I'm not over the moon about Phillips, but I do think he's going to be an above-average pro. I think people are putting too much into the fact that he didn't set the world on fire at the combine.
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I dislocated my elbow once, and it has never popped back out again. Now granted I was like 5 when it happened, but I think that since there is a difference, both in range of motion and structurally, between the elbow joint and the shoulder joint and therefore I don't think they can be compaired.

My main point was I don't think the injury had much of anything to do with where and for how much he signed. If he ws able to play in the same game, I'll not be concerned about it.

As for Lott, well...yes he is a badass.
The #1 of dislocation dislocation in children is the elbow...........it's the #2 site in adults. In the child, it's due to a yanking (traction mechanism) of the arm by a caretaker. In the adult, the cause is by twist and/or hyperextension mechanism. In the child, the injury is painless with limitation of motion usually the only presenting picture, and following timely reduction, there is very quick recovery or morbidity. The ligaments at that age are somewhat elastic and resistant to tearing.

In the adult, the ligaments are tougher and less yielding with more likelihood of micro or partial tearing. Even so, 3-6 weeks may be the healing period. Some adults have more elastic ligaments than others...........like the guy you know that can bend his fingers back to touch the back of his hand. People like that are less likely to suffer great short term or long term effects from such happenings. Demps evidently suffered 2 such injuries with the Giants. And going back into the game after a so-called elbow "dislocation" reduction may be due to hyperelasticity of his ligaments OR it could very well be that he suffered a subluxation (sometimes not distinguish in the press or public forums, but with lesser trauma and lesser recovery time) of his elbow instead which is more of a separation with minor displacement of the normal anatomy...............OR (and I would hope that this would not be the case) he was shot up with pain killers to be able to function for a short while before significant swelling set in.

Players with the 1st 2 scenarios especially may experience recurrent episodes without long term debilitation (although shorter term annoyances to the team if they can deal with it) or need for surgery.
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The #1 of dislocation dislocation in children is the elbow...........it's the #2 site in adults. In the child, it's due to a yanking (traction mechanism) of the arm by a caretaker. In the adult, the cause is by twist and/or hyperextension mechanism. In the child, the injury is painless with limitation of motion usually the only presenting picture, and following timely reduction, there is very quick recovery or morbidity. The ligaments at that age are somewhat elastic and resistant to tearing.

In the adult, the ligaments are tougher and less yielding with more likelihood of micro or partial tearing. Even so, 3-6 weeks may be the healing period. Some adults have more elastic ligaments than others...........like the guy you know that can bend his fingers back to touch the back of his hand. People like that are less likely to suffer great short term or long term effects from such happenings. Demps evidently suffered 2 such injuries with the Giants. And going back into the game after a so-called elbow "dislocation" reduction may be due to hyperelasticity of his ligaments OR it could very well be that he suffered a subluxation (sometimes not distinguish in the press or public forums, but with lesser trauma and lesser recovery time) of his elbow instead which is more of a separation with minor displacement of the normal anatomy...............OR (and I would hope that this would not be the case) he was shot up with pain killers to be able to function for a short while before significant swelling set in.

Players with the 1st 2 scenarios especially may experience recurrent episodes without long term debilitation (although shorter term annoyances to the team if they can deal with it) or need for surgery.
Yeah...my cousin ran over my elbow with his Big Wheel, thus dislocating my elbow; and it hurt like hell till it was re-set, then I was fine by that afternoon.

In adults, if I am reading this right, Demps elbow isn't that big of a concern; it's a less worrisome injury then repeated shoulder sperations say...right?

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Yeah...my cousin ran over my elbow with his Big Wheel, thus dislocating my elbow; and it hurt like hell till it was re-set, then I was fine by that afternoon.

In adults, if I am reading this right, Demps elbow isn't that big of a concern; it's a less worrisome injury then repeated shoulder sperations say...right?

As a rule, your conclusion is correct.

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As a rule, your conclusion is correct.
Your post states that infantrycak edited your post but did not give a reason why. Was there anything significant altered here?

This intrests me in a huge way becuase I;ve got personal shoulder issues and I like what I'm hearing from Cloak.
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Your post states that infantrycak edited your post but did not give a reason why. Was there anything significant altered here?

This intrests me in a huge way becuase I;ve got personal shoulder issues and I like what I'm hearing from Cloak.
I corrected his quote code so it showed up properly. No content was altered. If you see me or another mod editing someone's post it will be obvious and say something akin to "quoted deleted material" or it will be mechanical like this. We don't change folks' posts.
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I corrected his quote code so it showed up properly. No content was altered. If you see me or another mod editing someone's post it will be obvious and say something akin to "quoted deleted material" or it will be mechanical like this. We don't change folks' posts.
I didn't think you would. I wanted to be sure though.

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That's actually a bit of an old wives tale...



With that said though, he was still one tough SOB...
Thanks for ruining one of my few remaining illusions.

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This is excellent news, I thought that he was a priority in the offseason and it looks like he believes that we are moving in the right direction.
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I don't mean to make something out of nothing, but does anyone else find it odd that the Texans haven't listed him as signed on HT.com? They already show Bruener and Earl along with AD, but no Demps.

Does anyone have the scoop? Maybe a contract hangup? Or maybe he's unavailable to sign the dotted line??

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Following are the free agents the Texans have re-signed (3):
TE Mark Bruener (6-4, 252)
WR André Davis (6-1, 194)
SS Glenn Earl (6-1, 213)

Following are free agents the Texans have signed from other teams (2):
LB Kevin Bentley (6-0, 238) Last team: Seattle Seahawks
CB Jacques Reeves (5-11, 188) Last team: Dallas Cowboys
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I don't mean to make something out of nothing, but does anyone else find it odd that the Texans haven't listed him as signed on HT.com? They already show Bruener and Earl along with AD, but no Demps.

Does anyone have the scoop? Maybe a contract hangup? Or maybe he's unavailable to sign the dotted line??
I think your guesses are probably right. Just a snag that is keeping it from being "official"....
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I don't mean to make something out of nothing, but does anyone else find it odd that the Texans haven't listed him as signed on HT.com? They already show Bruener and Earl along with AD, but no Demps.

Does anyone have the scoop? Maybe a contract hangup? Or maybe he's unavailable to sign the dotted line??

More than likley, there's nothing to worry about - if you look at all the links (including the one to the Berman story that started all this), none of them say he was signed. "Agreed to terms", and "Reached an agreement" show up more than once.

So I guess the good news is that nothing (other than the title of this thread) has been contradicted. The possible (but highly unlikely) bad news is that something could prevent the actual signing of the contract.
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Just in case anyone was still wondering about why Demps isn't listed on the Texans' website as officially signed, Lance Zierlein said:

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So that mystery is solved, I guess.
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Just in case anyone was still wondering about why Demps isn't listed on the Texans' website as officially signed, Lance Zierlein said:



So that mystery is solved, I guess.
Yeah, I figured I'd throw that question out there since there was some discussion on the subject yesterday without any hard evidence either way. Thanks for finding the response, I didn't think he'd answered yet. Good to get to the bottom of that.
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Thanks, I read the same thing. Also, Manful included Demps in her article regarding the Kalu re-signing; but, didn't update her blog after I asked her about it yesterday morning. I guess she's been hanging around McClain so she can get a military title....Major Manful, what a ring that has to it.
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Now it's officially official.

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