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Old 03-02-2008   #1
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Default Texans looking good in FA.

I have to say that I am impressed with what the Texans have done so far in FA. And what they have done has been pretty much nothing. They did fill two holes at this point by signing former Cowboys CB Reeves, a position that was recently vacated by Von Hutchins, and, taking care of one of our own by signing Andre Davis to fill the void left by our dearly departed girlfriend beatin, pitbull chasin, and often injured kick returning, no ball catching Mathis.

Signing Davis was probably more of a splash than most people realized. He has got that sneaky fast speed that people talk about and he really is a legit #2 receiver. He can catch, he can stretch the field, and all last year he was reliable. Reeves I don't know much about but he can't be any worse than what we already had. Plus if Ray Rhodes and Hoke give there stamps of approval I am will to give Reeves the benefit of the doubt and will see how he plays in our scheme before passing judgment.

We are supposed to be meeting with Kevin Bentley today. Another not so big FA coming in looking to fill a void left by Anderson. I actually like this visit a lot better than the previous two years where we have attempted to sign depth with pre geriatric LB's looking to make one last paycheck on there way to retirement. Bentley is 28, 6-0 and 238. He should be able to come in and mix it up with Diles for a starting job.

I cant tell you how impressed i was that the Texans let Hadnot walk. He said all the right things giving you a warm and fuzzy for the guy, class act, under dog, and a great local boy comes home headline. Smith let the man get on a plane and try and get some other poor sucker to over pay for an average C/G. Hadnot = Milford Brown. I even chuckled when the Cardinals signed him thinking who in there right mind would want any former OLman from the worst unit in football. (Brown was cut the next offseason.) And that is also the what I thought when I heard Hadnot was coming in for a visit.

I am not however impressed with, and highly, highly, irritated that we have not signed Demps yet. The man just flat out plays ball, covers, hits, has size and speed. Our secondary instantly got better last year when Demps started and, IMO, was one reason our rookie CB starter was able to shine due to the fact that Demps had his back. Am I saying to back the dump truck of cash up? No. But I am saying get a deal done, or at least try to get one done. He is the best Safety that this franchise has ever had.

I am not big on high profile, big name FA's. Most of the time players are products of the system they play in, flourish in that system, and then listen to there agent and demand big money. More times than not it doesn't work out so well. However, I do like Turner for two reasons, I think he is a hard nosed runner that has the ability to carry the load, and it frees up our 18 position and makes it a little bit easier of a decision on what to do. Trading down or trading out of the first round and getting extra picks becomes a little bit easier. I also like the thought of a back field combo of Turner/Taylor.

So to sum it up, I like what we have done, we are still building and are not one or two players away from winning it all. We are not throwing money or giving up draft picks. That is something Casserly never understood. I don't think he ever really knew what the condition of his team was.
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Old 03-02-2008   #2
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Default Re: Texans looking good in FA.

I agree , the Texnas are shopping the discount racks for depth and flexibility in the draft . I can't see throwing big bucks around like we used to on bad players or players who don't fit .
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Good post. I agree Demps is a priority.
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Default Re: Texans looking good in FA.

I remember reading somewhere that Demps was most likely signing with Miami... It might have just been a rumor though.
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Default Re: Texans looking good in FA.

I'm glad we aren't buyers at this point, because of all the stupid money being thrown around... however, I hate that we've lost two key depth players in Hutchins and Anderson, and soon, probably a starter in Demps.
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I am not however impressed with, and highly, highly, irritated that we have not signed Demps yet. The man just flat out plays ball, covers, hits, has size and speed. Our secondary instantly got better last year when Demps started and, IMO, was one reason our rookie CB starter was able to shine due to the fact that Demps had his back. Am I saying to back the dump truck of cash up? No. But I am saying get a deal done, or at least try to get one done. He is the best Safety that this franchise has ever had.
I think this is the problem with signing Demps. You will have "to back the dump truck of cash up" in order to get him. You see, Demps is in the driver's seat because he knows this is a weak draft for Safeties and there are not that many good FS available in FA either. Especially a FS who was selected a Pro Bowl alternate after playing only half the season, and playing with a cast on his arm!

I don't know if the Texans have been in talks with Demp's agent or not, but I just think he will be wanting too much. We'll see. JMHO!
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I'm glad we aren't buyers at this point, because of all the stupid money being thrown around... however, I hate that we've lost two key depth players in Hutchins and Anderson, and soon, probably a starter in Demps.
might be a sign that kubes and smith want kenny phillips?

and then let harrison and brown battle for the other safety spot
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might be a sign that kubes and smith want kenny phillips?

and then let harrison and brown battle for the other safety spot
Don't think this would be the case, it would be stupid to presume that anyone is going to be there at 18. I think that they build the team thinking that no one from the draft will play this season, then whatever you get is a bonus.
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Don't think this would be the case, it would be stupid to presume that anyone is going to be there at 18. I think that they build the team thinking that no one from the draft will play this season, then whatever you get is a bonus.
Agreed. There's no reason to bank on anybody being there at #18.

Regarding Hutchins: The only reason we really signed him in the first place was because of our injuries at safety (Glenn Earl, Brandon Harrison, and Brandon Mitchell). We are going to have all three of those guys back ready to compete by training camp. Hutchins role at safety has been filled with the rehabilitation of these three.

Hutchins only played corner because of the dissappointment of Faggins and Fletcher. Also when Dunta went down, he played more and more corner. I don't see why he would be a costly loss. He had his best season by far last year and he capitalized on that by signing with Atlanta.

Demps we need to resign.
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might be a sign that kubes and smith want kenny phillips?

and then let harrison and brown battle for the other safety spot
That's not a very sound strategy.

Phillips is the consensus top safety, so there's no guarantee that he makes it to us, even if his projection is in the 20s.

If someone takes him, we better make damn sure we get Morgan or DeCoud in the 3rd or we just screwed ourselves at that position.
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That's not a very sound strategy.

Phillips is the consensus top safety, so there's no guarantee that he makes it to us, even if his projection is in the 20s.

If someone takes him, we better make damn sure we get Morgan or DeCoud in the 3rd or we just screwed ourselves at that position.
Am I the only one who thinks drafting Phillips over a CB , RB , or an OT would be a big mistake . Even if they don't resign Demps I would'nt draft Phillips in the 1st .
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Am I the only one who thinks drafting Phillips over a CB , RB , or an OT would be a big mistake . Even if they don't resign Demps I would'nt draft Phillips in the 1st .
I dont even want Phillips.

I want an OT or a CB.
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I dont even want Phillips.

I want an OT or a CB.
Me to ... I think DRC has the most upside but may not be the safe pick for CB .

It would be hard to pass on Williams if he's there at 18 .

I would like to trade back and get Cason and Baker / Collins .
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If Warrick Dunn gets released, Texans should go after him.
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If Warrick Dunn gets released, Texans should go after him.
Nope. That's Ahman Green all over again.
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Nope. That's Ahman Green all over again.
Except for the fact that Dunn hasn't missed a game in the past four seasons. But no, they shouldn't give anything significant to a 33 year old RB.
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You guys think that it'll be Dunn and not Norwood that gets the boot from Atlanta..??
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Except for the fact that Dunn hasn't missed a game in the past four seasons. But no, they shouldn't give anything significant to a 33 year old RB.
I didnt mean to compare injuries, just age and wear & tear.
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You guys think that it'll be Dunn and not Norwood that gets the boot from Atlanta..??
Yes.

From what I've seen of Norwood, it would be pretty foolish to let him go before you see what he can do with more carries.
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Demps is my biggest concern. I really liked what I saw from him (especially in the Denver game) and would be very disappointed if we let him go. We have enough holes to fill in the secondary as it is.

I previously made a post where I said I was disappointed with our low activity in FA. I've since changed my opinion after reading (like threads like this) how good it is that we've resisted making a big signing and continuing to build through the draft and trying to find diamonds in the rough with players in FA.

Speaking of building through the draft; Cleveland, no draft picks for the first three rounds, how disappointed would you be if you were a fan of theirs?
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