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Old 03-02-2008   #121
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I know that but he spent a good part of last season as a starter, and he spent that time on a 13 win team.

I would say that Reeves will challenge Bennett for role as "best" CB till D-Robs return. Reeves is easily better then Fletcher and Faggins.

Of course this could all change depending on the draft.
Once again Hoth we are in agreement.

I'm wondering at this point how Dunta's recovery process is coming along. I do agree on some people here over valuing Von. Good player in the role we wanted him as but I'm confused at the people here. Some are wanting the big name guys but then were all on re-signing Von on the cheap. Which is it guys?

Over the length of the contract that's not a bad contract to get into a guy that has good experience, is fairly young, and has played with a top notch CB like Newman. It's pretty much like most of us expected 2nd Tier FA CB.
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if their targeted starting cb is on the board #18 they still select him. However if not, Smith might feel a little more comfortable accepting a viable trade down offer
I definitely hope this doesn't deter us from taking a CB but at the same time I think this increases the chances of trading down to take Phillips and getting a second rounder, which I would still be happy with. I'm confident in the FO to make a good pick so I'm not all that worried.
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Hear Ye! Hear Ye!
Hear ye to what?

We were promised what we are getting. Rick Smith said that we would NOT be signing any big name FAs.

Ignore the GM at the risk of makin' a fool out of yourself.
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i'll take montana as a clone, any way we can mix in mike vicks speed?
If ya gonna clone somebody, clone Jim Brown or Walter Payton. And while we're playing Mad Scientist, clone Deacon Jones to line up opposite Mario and Mel Blount to be our #1 CB.
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I definitely hope this doesn't deter us from taking a CB but at the same time I think this increases the chances of trading down to take Phillips and getting a second rounder, which I would still be happy with. I'm confident in the FO to make a good pick so I'm not all that worried.
I don't think it will. This guy should play nickel and dime situations. I don't think they expect him to start unless something goes wrong, like more injuries. Fletcher and Faggins should be put on emergency duty.
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I don't think it will. This guy should play nickel and dime situations. I don't think they expect him to start unless something goes wrong, like more injuries. Fletcher and Faggins should be put on emergency duty.
I disagree with you. You don't pay a backup $20 million? You do that for very long & you'll be in cap hell real quick. I'm of the opinion that he was signed with the intent being to start him.

While I haven't seen Reeves play, I'm starting to get very intrigued by the kid.

Reading all the negative posts on the internet about him reminds me so much of this board in that, everytime a young player makes a bonehead play, the same overwhelming group of fans pile on him. They don't seem capable of getting over their disappointment & looking at the circumstances that contributed to that play. Hell, even I've been guilty of it.

Let's give this kid a chance. Obviously, the coaches & GM see something in him. Not to mention, all the other teams that were interested in him. He's obviously got something. I just hope it's not a really good agent.

I'm wondering if the veteran FA CB they're referring to could be Ty Law? Or, perhaps Jason Webster (assuming he's healthy), Eugene Wilson, Sammy Davis, or Hank Poteat?

There's also a lot of safeties still twisting in the wind like our own Will Demps & Mike Doss.
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I disagree with you. You don't pay a backup $20 million? You do that for very long & you'll be in cap hell real quick. I'm of the opinion that he was signed with the intent being to start him.
5 years $20 million. And he's a corner. Teams do pay corners alot to be nickel and dime guys. The Jaguars paid Florence $36 million over 6 years and they have Mathis and Brian Williams. They've chose not to resign Cousin so they are probably bringing Florence in to play nickel and compete for starting job.

I didn't say the guy won't compete for a starting job, I just don't think, come Game 1, he will be a starter.
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I disagree with you. You don't pay a backup $20 million? You do that for very long & you'll be in cap hell real quick. I'm of the opinion that he was signed with the intent being to start him.
Once Dunta returns, he'll slide into a nickel role but until then he should start. Nickelbacks can be very valuable and having a good one should go a long way against the Colts, who use so many receivers.

Contract isn't bad if he can come in, be a decent starter until Dunta returns, and then strengthen the secondary in nickel situations.
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I'd bet that our #2 is next year, before Dunta comes back, will be a rookie.
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I'd bet that our #2 is next year, before Dunta comes back, will be a rookie.
If they go that route with the first pick then it very well could be. I'm still expecting the FO to take a RB (Stewart?) with that 18th pick or trade down and get a 2nd rounder as well, snag Phillips in the first and grab an RB in the second (Rice or Charles).
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If you have NFL Network, they're running the Dallas/Giants playoff game. I'm checking it out to see what Reeves is about.

He's lined up man-on-man with Plaxico when the 'boys play man.

Plus I get to see the Cowboys lose again... but that's gravy
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[quote=Hoth-Boy;856180]Hear ye to what?

We were promised what we are getting. Rick Smith said that we would NOT be signing any big name FAs.
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And that, sir ....... IS the point!
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Hear ye to what?

We were promised what we are getting. Rick Smith said that we would NOT be signing any big name FAs.
And that, sir ....... IS the point!
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Would you rather over-spend this year, on your percious big names, and risk having cap issues for several more years (not to mention that this is an extremly weak FA class), or would you rather spend one more year being a little tighter with the money to be able to make a bis signing next year in what should a) be a better FA class and b) have the team in a better position to benefit from the addition of a big name FA?
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I'll give Reeves this, the kid ain't afraid to hit somebody.
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Would you rather over-spend this year, on your percious big names, and risk having cap issues for several more years (not to mention that this is an extremly weak FA class), or would you rather spend one more year being a little tighter with the money to be able to make a bis signing next year in what should a) be a better FA class and b) have the team in a better position to benefit from the addition of a big name FA?
That's what we said last year....

Meanwhile the best FAs get signed by others. I don't mean to foolishly dish out the $$$. But, we need to get in the game because we have too many holes to fill just thru the draft. So far, we've lost 2 mediocre backups and have signed 2 mediocre backups. That's not improving our team.
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That's what we said last year....

Meanwhile the best FAs get signed by others. I don't mean to foolishly dish out the $$$. But, we need to get in the game because we have too many holes to fill just thru the draft. So far, we've lost 2 mediocre backups and have signed 2 mediocre backups. That's not improving our team.
It will be if we can find a starter or two in the draft, and maybe a few more mediocre backups.
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If ya gonna clone somebody, clone Jim Brown or Walter Payton. And while we're playing Mad Scientist, clone Deacon Jones to line up opposite Mario and Mel Blount to be our #1 CB.
I'll take a Deion clone opposite Blount to make it truly sick. Dunta can play Safety when he comes back.
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Once Dunta returns, he'll slide into a nickel role but until then he should start. Nickelbacks can be very valuable and having a good one should go a long way against the Colts, who use so many receivers.

Contract isn't bad if he can come in, be a decent starter until Dunta returns, and then strengthen the secondary in nickel situations.
true, we need all the db's we can get
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That's what we said last year....

Meanwhile the best FAs get signed by others. I don't mean to foolishly dish out the $$$. But, we need to get in the game because we have too many holes to fill just thru the draft. So far, we've lost 2 mediocre backups and have signed 2 mediocre backups. That's not improving our team.
Nolast year it was said we had no cap room what so ever because of so much Dead Money thanks to a lot of guys who were cut after they were signed by casserly to stupidly large contracts late in their careers.

I am curious how many games and tapes you have watched of Reeves and Bently to say that they not improvements over Anderson and Hutchinson, because you are saying we have not improved at all so you must have watched lots of games to know.
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That's what we said last year....

Meanwhile the best FAs get signed by others. I don't mean to foolishly dish out the $$$. But, we need to get in the game because we have too many holes to fill just thru the draft. So far, we've lost 2 mediocre backups and have signed 2 mediocre backups. That's not improving our team.

Look at the history of all the successful organizations since the Salary Cap era began. The teams that maintained their relevance are teams that didn't spend big money during FA:

Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New England, and Indianapolis...

They sometimes secure their own young talent with big money, draft well, fill-in with bargain free agents, and rarely chase someone with big money.

This is what Kubiak and Smith want to become. Show me a successful organization over a 6-10 timespan that threw big bucks at FAs.

Even NE last year, though they were aggressive, gave very cap-friendly contracts to: RMoss, DStallworth (both FAs after one year) and Wes Welker.
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