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Old 03-01-2008   #61
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After thinking about this for a while and reading an article on him recently, I'm starting to think it wouldn't be such a bad idea to re-sign him as a third or fourth CB (assuming we draft one in the first or second round).

Here's my thinking......

He started 13 games last year and gained valuable experience. He was often lined up against #1 WR's such as Moss and Burress. He would be much better in the slot against 3rd WR's.

He may be the fastest player on the team. He was the Big 10 sprint champ while at Purdue. You can't teach speed.

He's an excellent tackler. Only one receiver was able to break one of his tackles last year. Once he wraps up, they're going down.

He only committed two penalties all year for a total of 19 yards.

Quarterbacks threw at him 122 times last year. They completed 56.6% of their passes for an average of 12.8 yards per catch. He only allowed 7 TD's all year (though it seemed like more). In comparison, Dre Bly was thrown at 87 times, and QB's completed 56.3% of their passes for a 15 yard average and 10 TD's.

I'm not saying to sign him to be a starter or to break the bank for him. But he might be someone to consider since good CB's are hard to find. Just a thought.....
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Btw, Reeves ran a 4.62 in the 40. Don't know what made this guy think that he might've been the "fastest player" on the cowboys.
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Dre Bly has always been overrated because of his ability to make plays on the ball.

.....like DeAngelo Hall.
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we ran a lot of zone defense last year so this looks like a good fit
I think this is extremely important and has been generally overlooked so far.

Richard Smith has been known to run his fair share or zone. Ray Rhodes was brought in and is known for his zone scheme. Think what you will of Reeves, but if nothing else this signing shows that our defense is starting to develop an identity, something that people have been yearning for. Now that's not to say that the zone scheme is something that I want, but from adding Ray Rhodes to signing Jacques Reeves all signs point to a zone scheme in our defense's future.

I think this also has implications for what type of corner we will be picking up in the draft. Who are some corners who excel in zone coverage? Aqib Talib? Tracy Porter? Leodis McKelvin?

I also think Fred Bennett is a fit for this system and that might be why we picked him last year. He might not be the most physical reviever in coverage but it seems like nearly all of his picks last season came on plays where he seemingly came out of nowhere to pick the ball off of its path, the type of play you want from your DBs in zone coverage. From what I've read Reeves offers the same type of skill set.

Here's to hoping he exels in our system under Hoke and Rhode's tutelage.

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I'm not sure about this move but I will gives Kubes and Smith the benefit of the doubt. They know what they are looking for.
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we ran a lot of zone defense last year so this looks like a good fit
We ran a lot of zone because we lacked the talent to do much else. I don't think this is such a great deal at the price we had to pay. Maybe it'll turn out OK, but I doubt it. This move only makes the draft waters muddier for me. I would rather us spend our 1st rounder on a potential pro bowler thatn spend big $$$ in FA on a potential Petey Jr.
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We ran a lot of zone because we lacked the talent to do much else. I don't think this is such a great deal at the price we had to pay. Maybe it'll turn out OK, but I doubt it. This move only makes the draft waters muddier for me. I would rather us spend our 1st rounder on a potential pro bowler thatn spend big $$$ in FA on a potential Petey Jr.
How do you know it is big money? You deen the contract details, and know how much is quarenteed?
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I think the fact he is a physical run defender by reputation helps too.

They obviously value physical corners, just look at Dunta.

If you get Robinson, Reeves and Bennett in the Nickel you have a pretty good run stoppind defense too which is important against the teams we match up with.
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I think this is extremely important and has been generally overlooked so far.

Richard Smith has been known to run his fair share or zone. Ray Rhodes was brought in and is known for his zone scheme. Think what you will of Reeves, but if nothing else this signing shows that our defense is starting to develop an identity, something that people have been yearning for. Now that's not to say that the zone scheme is something that I want, but from adding Ray Rhodes to signing Jacques Reeves all signs point to a zone scheme in our defense's future.

I think this also has implications for what type of corner we will be picking up in the draft. Who are some corners who excel in zone coverage? Aqib Talib? Tracy Porter? Leodis McKelvin?

I also think Fred Bennett is a fit for this system and that might be why we picked him last year. He might not be the most physical reviever in coverage but it seems like nearly all of his picks last season came on plays where he seemingly came out of nowhere to pick the ball off of its path, the type of play you want from your DBs in zone coverage. From what I've read Reeves offers the same type of skill set.

Here's to hoping he exels in our system under Hoke and Rhode's tutelage.
He, indeed, did cover #1 and #2 WRs. His main criticism was that he routinely played off the recievers by about 10 ft, and still gave up his average of almost 13 yds. The feeling is that he needs to be in a system where there is a good rush so that he is not running after his prey for more than a couple of seconds.
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Can ANYONE TELL ME WHY IN THE NAME OF (CURSE) did we give an EXTREMELY AVERAGE CORNER 20 MILLION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

i know he's not getting the full 20 but still. COME ON.

Dumb signings like this will make the run for 'burner' Turner even MORE difficult due to cap space.
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I got this off a Cowboys blog. Although there were many posters with nothing good to say about Reeves, these two were positive.

"I'm a little suprised by nearly everyone's comments about reeves. It is hard to forget the last minute of the first half of the playoff game, however he played decent all year. There were multipe games where all you would hear from the announcers on the first series was "so and so are going to go after reeves all game" ahh yeah how often did that work! The only regualr season game that he didnt play well in and the cowboys lost was N.E. Now Im not saying the cowboys can't use a upgrade at cb especially in the draft but to say reeves is no better than a 4th corner just isn't true. I havent heard of a team finishing 13-3 thats had a 4th corner start 13 games."

"His weaknesses wouldn't be as exposed if both Newman and Henry didn't struggle with injuries. He was serviceable. He did get beat. But he also held his own at times. Many teams don't have 2 good CB's. So he would be an upgrade somewhere."


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Can ANYONE TELL ME WHY IN THE NAME OF (CURSE) did we give an EXTREMELY AVERAGE CORNER 20 MILLION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

i know he's not getting the full 20 but still. COME ON.

Dumb signings like this will make the run for 'burner' Turner even MORE difficult due to cap space.
He's slightly better than average, which helps us. Keep buying those tickets, we need the money.
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Can ANYONE TELL ME WHY IN THE NAME OF (CURSE) did we give an EXTREMELY AVERAGE CORNER 20 MILLION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

i know he's not getting the full 20 but still. COME ON.

Dumb signings like this will make the run for 'burner' Turner even MORE difficult due to cap space.
THe declared value of the contract is meaningless, it's the guaranteed amount that matters more then anything else; and we have yet to hear how much money is guaranteed in the contract. So simmer down.

Secondly, Turner was never coming here to begin with. Smith said no big name free agents and that means no Turner. Even if we had wanted to sign him, Atlanta is gong to pull out a big wad of cash and more then likely overpay for his services.
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Looks like Hutchins replacement.
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THe declared value of the contract is meaningless, it's the guaranteed amount that matters more then anything else; and we have yet to hear how much money is guaranteed in the contract. So simmer down.

Secondly, Turner was never coming here to begin with. Smith said no big name free agents and that means no Turner. Even if we had wanted to sign him, Atlanta is gong to pull out a big wad of cash and more then likely overpay for his services.
Agree to disagree......i heard differently. Rick can SAY a lot of stuff just to throw people off, just like he isnt talking about the draft.

They could throw BOATLOADS of cash but Burner would have to decide if the money was really worth going to a team with no identity, no QB, and a brand new coach w/ an unproven system..........The exact opposite here.
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EDIT: Beaten.
I don't know, after reading about the 8m gauranteed I'm starting to have slight misgivings here. I don't think this is as bad as Anthony Weaver or Morlon Greenwood, but it could be.

Hopefully this guy's experience will benefit us and the change of scenery will benefit him (hopeless optimism)
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Oh the HORROR.

Should've kept Hutchins at least he was versatile.

At least w/ him you know what you're getting...versus the unproven.
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I don't know, after reading about the 8m gauranteed I'm starting to have slight misgivings here. I don't think this is as bad as Anthony Weaver or Morlon Greenwood, but it could be.

Hopefully this guy's experience will benefit us and the change of scenery will benefit him (hopeless optimism)
I still haven't seen anything about guaranteed $$$. You have a link?
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I still haven't seen anything about guaranteed $$$. You have a link?
EDIT: I"m a dumbass here you go.

8m garunteed.
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Can ANYONE TELL ME WHY IN THE NAME OF (CURSE) did we give an EXTREMELY AVERAGE CORNER 20 MILLION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

i know he's not getting the full 20 but still. COME ON.

Dumb signings like this will make the run for 'burner' Turner even MORE difficult due to cap space.
turner isn't going to shut down peyton, the offense was fine minus the turnovers, dont forget that jax has upgraded at wr, we need db's, we dont have a gamebreaker at rb but we have a stable of rb's
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8m garunteed.
That was speculation...
did you notice that the blogger said "...it is believed that 8 mil was guaranteed"
That Dallas blogger has no more clue than we do on what the contract actually says.
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