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Old 02-25-2008   #41
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I may have found a claim to this rumor.....it could be a mistake by the NFL Network.

Sorry if this has been already posted.

I would have to say that is an error on someones part. They also have Green Bay picking 30th. The Packers don't have anyone on there team that is worth the 18th pick, unless they are trying to get rid or Barnett or Hawk.
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LJ was called out early in career. Maybe Benson can take his diaper off and start running like a man as well? Then again, I'm anti lets bring in this guy because played at UT.
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mike bell for a 7th possibly? just speculating
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As long as it comes as a package deal with Tina.

We need a RB who likes to hit and looks for contact.
If I remember correctly, Ike Turner had no problem hitting or looking for contact.





Yes, I knew that I put Ike Turner in instead of Michael Turner.....
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I may have found a claim to this rumor.....it could be a mistake by the NFL Network.
That was just a sloppy mistake by the NFL Networks graphic department. They also had the Vikings with pick #21 (which belongs to Washington). Both mistakes were corrected on the scroll graphic during their 6pm CST Total Access show.
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LJ was called out early in career. Maybe Benson can take his diaper off and start running like a man as well? Then again, I'm anti lets bring in this guy because played at UT.
LJ was on the bench though...Benson has been on the field and hasn't looked like a top5 back. One thing I will say though is that the Bears got rid of another guy who was a late bloomer in the NFL > Thomas Jones. Jones was looked at as a bust his first few years in the league. I'm not so sure Benson is a late bloomer as much as he benefited from Vince Young opening up his running lanes and helping his draft stock soar. Right now he doesn't look like he has the speed and quickness to ever be a big time back in the NFL.
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So who does everyone think it is and or who would you like for it to be? Turner got a lot of hype this year correct? I saw him run a few times and thought he looked really promising. That's just my initial thoughts though, I really don't know much about him. I do think that someone will pay him big money, maybe us or maybe someone else. As long as he can produce for us on the field like L.T. does for San Diego, I'd pay for it in a heart beat. I think a great running game would improve our record by 3-4 wins a season. That puts us in the playoffs. I liked the way we ran the ball later in the season, but we need to be consistent from day 1 of week 1 and have the explosive payer with break-away speed.
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LJ was on the bench though...Benson has been on the field and hasn't looked like a top5 back. One thing I will say though is that the Bears got rid of another guy who was a late bloomer in the NFL > Thomas Jones. Jones was looked at as a bust his first few years in the league. I'm not so sure Benson is a late bloomer as much as he benefited from Vince Young opening up his running lanes and helping his draft stock soar. Right now he doesn't look like he has the speed and quickness to ever be a big time back in the NFL.
Agree with the second part. I know its hard with a lot of UT fans here sometimes but Benson didn't play very long with Vince. Two years prior Benson came to UT heralded as a freshman. Was doing very well and only in 2004, his last year, Vince became a fulltime starter.

Not everything UT revolves around Vince unlike some want to imagine(not saying you personally). Benson also played behind some damn good O-lines at UT as well. IMO I think the Bears/Benson relationship was doomed from the start. I think it'd be good for both to part ways.

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If this rumor is true and we do pick up a RB via trade I don't think that necessarily keeps us from drafting one as well. I think with the number of injuries we saw last year and the uncertainty we have experienced at RB over the two seasons Kubiak has been here, he and Rick Smith are going to do everything in their power to have several starting capable backs on the roster. Kubiak has stated in many of his pressers that in the NFL today you not only need 2 starting capable RBs but a third as well.

Ahman Green would be one of those guys, whether we keep him or not remains to be seen. But from all indications from Smith and Kubiak, he is here to stay. Ron Dayne would be another one, but he is an UFA and LZ has said that he doesn't think Dayne fits Gibbs' system and wouldn't be suprised if Dayne wasn't re-signed. Then you have the Chris Taylor and Darius Walker types who are more insurance than someone you would go into a season with and expect to give you starter quality time.

So, say we do give a 5th rounder for a Cedric Benson-esque player, who's to say that keeps us from drafting another RB in the first three rounds as well? While it might hurt to use two of our 6 draft picks on one position it would give you a lot more to be confident about at the position going into next season (ie. Ahman Green, Ray Rice, Cedric Benson vs. Ahman Green, Ron Dayne, Darius Walker.) There is also the possibility of trading back a number of spots to pick up extra picks.

And this is all assuming it would be some mid-level guy and not more of a blockbuster trade. Would Miami be opposed to letting Ronnie Brown, who's coming off an injury, go for an extra pick(s) with the chance to draft McFadden at #1? Also, with Mendenhall and McFadden both measuring well at the combine and rising up the draft board would teams in the mid-early first round be willing to let their starting RB go for an extra pick(s) with the certainty of McFadden or Mendenhall being there? KC and Larry Johnson, NE and Lawrence Maroney, Baltimore and Willis McGahee? Would you take Willis McGahee and the #38 pick for our #18? Would Baltimore?
I think the texans will draft a speed back but they want a power back who is young and not over the hill like Ron Dayne and Ahman Green. I think the Texans are probably targeting Ray Rice or Steve Slaton in the 3rd round and I think that's where Cedric benson or Ronnie Brown may come into play because the Dolphins have been in discussions with Dallas about trading for there 2 1st rounders and Marion Barber for Darren Mcfadden plus they resigned Ricky Williams as well so Ronnie Brown could be the odd man out and that takes salary cap of the Dolphins books.
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I think Justin Blalock & Kasey Studdard were a big part of Benson's success at UT.

Not to mention a handful of other guys like Jonathan Scott, etc....
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Agree with the second part. I know its hard with a lot of UT fans here sometimes but Benson didn't play very long with Vince. Two years prior Benson came to UT heralded as a freshman. Was doing very well and only in 2004, his last year, Vince became a fulltime starter.

Not everything UT revolves around Vince unlike some want to imagine(not saying you personally). Benson also played behind some damn good O-lines at UT as well. IMO I think the Bears/Benson relationship was doomed from the start. I think it'd be good for both to part ways.
Benson was a top HS National recruit so I know the football world has been high on him for a while. I just think his stock soared once paired with Young since he took so much attention from the front 7 to defend in College. I overvalued him myself.
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Benson was a top HS National recruit so I know the football world has been high on him for a while. I just think his stock soared once paired with Young since he took so much attention from the front 7 to defend in College. I overvalued him myself.
He may just be one of many that showed less effort once "they got paid". Kinda like what they're saying about Alexander. Who knows?

I'm with you though, I overvalued him as well.

FWIW, I also don't think Charles will make much of an impact in the NFL.
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Benson was a top HS National recruit so I know the football world has been high on him for a while. I just think his stock soared once paired with Young since he took so much attention from the front 7 to defend in College. I overvalued him myself.
FWIW, things I've heard about Benson that he has got the NFL big head and doesn't want to put the hours in.
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It may take a little digging but I recall articles out there about him being a total shithead in the locker room.
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It may take a little digging but I recall articles out there about him being a total shithead in the locker room.
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FWIW, things I've heard about Benson that he has got the NFL big head and doesn't want to put the hours in.
I don't think Benson is well liked by his teammates either. Didn't they tell on him when he left the sidelines early at a preseason game a few years ago?
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No linkage, but someone from another MB has said that Kirwin has been informed by non-Texans team that there is no truth to the rumor.
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No linkage, but someone from another MB has said that Kirwin has been informed by non-Texans team that there is no truth to the rumor.
We all know how the game telephone works but from the way he worded it I don't know if it was "bunk" or if it just didn't work out.
"Pat Kirwan just said that the rumor he "reported" yesterday was bunk. The coach from the other team allegedly involved called him and told him not to go with it, that it wasn't happening.

If there was another team I don't see how it could be "bunk."
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We all know how the game telephone works but from the way he worded it I don't know if it was "bunk" or if it just didn't work out.
"Pat Kirwan just said that the rumor he "reported" yesterday was bunk. The coach from the other team allegedly involved called him and told him not to go with it, that it wasn't happening.

If there was another team I don't see how it could be "bunk."
My normal guess in these situations is that the teams involved have spoken but nothing came of it and niether team wants to let the names/picks discussed to leak out further.
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My normal guess in these situations is that the teams involved have spoken but nothing came of it and niether team wants to let the names/picks discussed to leak out further.
That's what I got out of it too.

I'd love to know who it was we were talking with though. haha
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