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Old 02-19-2008   #21
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The only two reasons ZT would come to Houston. One he is from Texas, two and no one else is caught this, Richard Smith was his coach a few years ago, sorry Second Honeymoon.

Sounds like Drew Rosenhaus trying to get the Pats to up the offer...
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The only two reasons ZT would come to Houston. One he is from Texas, two and no one else is caught this, Richard Smith was his coach a few years ago, sorry Second Honeymoon.

Sounds like Drew Rosenhaus trying to get the Pats to up the offer...
Exactly.

If the Texans are serious about moving Diles to OLB, then the Texans would need a backup MLB. Thomas would fill that role, and maybe play in the nickel. Why would Thomas take that when a starting job would be available? He's going to New England.
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What's going on in Miami?? One Miami LB looking for a new home in the NFL, another looking to become a star on the dance floor. Jason Taylor will join Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith as pro football players who want to strut their stuff on Dancing with the Stars. Jerry placed second a few years back and Emmitt won the contest. Guess we'll see what Jason can do with his pro-bowl talents!
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What's going on in Miami?? One Miami LB looking for a new home in the NFL, another looking to become a star on the dance floor. Jason Taylor will join Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith as pro football players who want to strut their stuff on Dancing with the Stars. Jerry placed second a few years back and Emmitt won the contest. Guess we'll see what Jason can do with his pro-bowl talents!


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Zach, before going on IR last year was averaging more than 10 tackles a game.(Which is what he has done his entire career.)
Jay Foreman was leading the league in tackles for three quarters of 2003, but the stats didn't show he was making the tackles 5 yards down the field. Zach also gets his stats padded by vet respect--he can be the 4th guy to jump on the pile and he gets credited with an assist. Zach had more assists in 2006 than DeMeco has in his two years in the league. Compare with DeMeco's solo numbers and there is no comparison.
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Jay Foreman was leading the league in tackles for three quarters of 2003, but the stats didn't show he was making the tackles 5 yards down the field. Zach also gets his stats padded by vet respect--he can be the 4th guy to jump on the pile and he gets credited with an assist. Zach had more assists in 2006 than DeMeco has in his two years in the league. Compare with DeMeco's solo numbers and there is no comparison.
I agree with you. But honestly, he'd still be an upgrade to our LB corps if D-Ryans is ok with the move outside. Having said that, I highly doubt he'll come here anyways.
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I agree with you, but we're probably in the minority on this.

It's not like Ryans' productivity would deminish or something. He's originally a OLB anyway. Zach is still a tackling machine like DeMeco, and I think having both would be dynomite.
I am 100% for this. Ryans, Thomas, Diles would be one helluva LB corp. Having Diles develop next to Zach Thomas and Demeco Ryans....yeah, that would be horrible. He's MORE than worth the money, and I'm sorry, but he has a good 2 years left in him. That would be a great day for fans if we sign Zach Thomas to our team and let him retire in Texas.
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He was pretty adamant on Sirius NFL radio that he had zero desire to go to a losing/rebuilding franchise. He clearly stated that he is only interested in playoff teams. He said last year left a bad taste in his mouth and that he didnt want to go out like that.

I can see the rumor springing up since he is from Texas but other than that it doesnt seem to hold much water.
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Default Re: Texans interested in Zach Thomas?

Houston is not mentioned as being one of his stops on his find-a-new-team tour.

Here's the Zach Looks For a New Team link.
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Default Re: Texans interested in Zach Thomas?

It is very hard to be a tackling machine - even assists - when you are sitting on the sidelines with a severe concussion. I believe he had 2 last year. One is a car accidient and one on the field.Don't think he even played in very many games last year.

How long will he be able to make any sort of tackles before he gets another?
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He was pretty adamant on Sirius NFL radio that he had zero desire to go to a losing/rebuilding franchise. He clearly stated that he is only interested in playoff teams. He said last year left a bad taste in his mouth and that he didnt want to go out like that.

I can see the rumor springing up since he is from Texas but other than that it doesnt seem to hold much water.
We arent really a losing/rebuilding team. We are pretty close to play offs. It will be the Pats, but I wouldnt rule us out.
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We arent really a losing/rebuilding team. We are pretty close to play offs. It will be the Pats, but I wouldnt rule us out.
we are clearly a building team....we may even be considered rebuilding if you call the Casserly "build" a "build". We've never had a winning record so we really aren't a "winning" team.
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Houston is not mentioned as being one of his stops on his find-a-new-team tour.

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Just saw that..Pats...
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Pats offered him a contract.
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If he was available 2-3 years ago, I would definitely go after him. He is still in his prime, but this team is looking to stay young. I would definitely give Diles a chance to prove he can play w/ the 1st unit.
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What's the difference between this and the Ahman Green signing beyond the facts that:

1. The injury is a head instead of a knee injury (not better - just different)
2. He would represent only 1/3 of our LB corp not 100% of our starting RB's
3. He would cost less, so the waste of cap space would be limited


We gripe and moan about guys like Green and Boselli, and then jump all over guys like this (at least some of us do).
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Sometimes the best thing you can do is just say "Thanks but no thanks" and that's what I believe the Texans should do here. We've only been around for 6 years but in that short time we've had a chance to be both "too young" and "too old" at times. We should know enough not to pay stupid money to aging names but we signed Ahman Green last year and thought we'd accomplished something. We did actually. We managed to blow what little money we had to spend for free agents on a guy who gave us less than Ron Dayne ever has. That was impressive (albeit in the wrong direction).

Zach Thomas was a heck of a player and may have a year or two left in him but we shouldn't be buying year-or-two band-aids at this point. We should be buying pieces that will be here for 5-10 years.

You ice the cake with guys like this but they aren't what you make it out of.
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What's the difference between this and the Ahman Green signing beyond the facts that:

1. The injury is a head instead of a knee injury (not better - just different)
2. He would represent only 1/3 of our LB corp not 100% of our starting RB's
3. He would cost less, so the waste of cap space would be limited


We gripe and moan about guys like Green and Boselli, and then jump all over guys like this (at least some of us do).
normal teams sign older players. It's not like "staying young" wins in the NFL. I don't think age is much consideration as much as can he play up to the level of the contract we signed him to? That said, I'm not real gung-ho about him at this stage of his career....although I wouldn't mind moving Ryans to the will if we had a mlb who could play at a high level.
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ZT is pretty good at blitzing. I know we want to do more of that this year.
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