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Old 02-12-2008   #1
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No doubt that CB is a major need. However, I doubt they want to line up a guy with just one year experience and a rookie as the CBs or heaven forbid, Faggin. I expect that they get a mid-level type CB in FA and draft a guy later that could develope.
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Wow! Scratch that! I went to read the comments and he has a different CB penciled in ahead of Cason now. Anyone know about Flowers?
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Wow! Scratch that! I went to read the comments and he has a different CB penciled in ahead of Cason now. Anyone know about Flowers?
He's supposed to be one of the top CBs, if the the top CB in the draft according to Mayock. I don't know much about him, though.
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On another note, I don't think we take a CB in the first round. CBs take too much time to develop into a starter (exception being Dunta), and we need a starting CB day 1.
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I think the texans will definatly bring a free agent CB and they will draft another corner in the 3rd round, I think the Texans will go after mendenhall if he is there at 18.
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Wow! Scratch that! I went to read the comments and he has a different CB penciled in ahead of Cason now. Anyone know about Flowers?
Brandon Flowers, Junior, Virginia Tech. his specific combine measureables may change so it reamains to be seen if in fact he is 5010 or less (the NFLAC, graded Flowers as a 2nd round pick) solid build/frame 190. physical tackler with nose for football, seperates football from receiver/ball carrier. will struggle in single coverage without help over the top, looks for the homerun hit, gambles & intimidates.

Looks & sounds more like a natural saftey. if Brandon measures out under 5010 say 5090 thats Bob Sanders territory. hard to argue that kind of player is not worth a 1st rd. pick, however even Bob was a 2nd rd. pick. Flowers seems like a similar type who projects to safety in the NFL, but could begin & adequately fill Dunta's roster spot until he is able to return, upon which he would be the one moving to FS not Dunta Robinson.

Bottom line while I could understand the selection I would like it more if he was targeted later in a trade down scenero & that the Texans should expect better value & more a pure positional player, CB, OT or RB with the 18th pick.
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another ridiculous scenario of Miami moving into the 20's from the #1 pick.
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another ridiculous scenario of Miami moving into the 20's from the #1 pick.

Not really. Not if Barber and another pick are included. It also a smarter move cap-wise.
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another ridiculous scenario of Miami moving into the 20's from the #1 pick.
In any hypothetical deal, you would obviously receive more than just the two 1st Rounders in 2008. You would probably get a quality starter, a quality backup, some more late round 2008 picks and probably a 2nd Rounder or more the following year (2009)to close the deal.

Personally, I dont think that a deal gets done. I could see Dallas moving up to get McFadden only if he falls past #4. Moving up to #1 overall just costs too much and McFadden is no sure thing.
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another ridiculous scenario of Miami moving into the 20's from the #1 pick.
The silly part is the cowboy's giving up multiple picks and a good player to the dolphins for an overrated prospect, not the Dolphins taking it.
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If recent reports are indeed true (I don't buy them) that McFadden is falling, it is far more likely that the Cowboys would be looking to trade up with New England who is traditionally looking to trade back.
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I wish the draft would be here sooner. Now I don't really watch it on TV except when the Texans make their pick, but all the talking about it on blogs, here, tv, etc... make me excited about it nonetheless.
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Default Re: Lance Z's Mock with Texans taking a CB

Man I hate that mock. All the guys I would be interested in are gone.
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If recent reports are indeed true (I don't buy them) that McFadden is falling, it is far more likely that the Cowboys would be looking to trade up with New England who is traditionally looking to trade back.
Bill would love to give the finger to the NFL and get his 2 First Round picks back. That is for sure.
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I'm surprised its taken so long for some to start to discount Longs lofty ranking and being rated the #1 OT ahead of Clady from Boise State ?
The thing is I've read in many places that Long is basically a RT whereas I've
never seen that about Clady.
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The silly part is the cowboy's giving up multiple picks and a good player to the dolphins for an overrated prospect, not the Dolphins taking it.
The salary cap seems to play a bigger role everyday in what teams decide to do personnel wise . But if it were me i don't do it unless the boys give up way more than it is worth and then marion barber . My vote for the texans first round if it falls like this mock presents is rivers , no way do i go flowers over either rivers or chromartie .
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NFL Network's Adam Schefter and NBC's Peter King say they're "hearing" the Dolphins are interested in Virginia DE Chris Long.
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Not really. Not if Barber and another pick are included.
trade out Barber for Demarcus Ware and Miami will listen. another runningback is completely unnecessary with the way the defense is looking right now.

and forget about what it means to Miami, it's just idiotic for Dallas to move up to #1 when McFadden's value is dropping steadily in a crowded RB draft class. especially since all of this speculating is based on something Jerry Jones said 7 months ago when everyone assumed Dallas would be drafting top 5 because the Browns were expected to suck royally. i bet as soon as the Browns started looking good, Jones just dismissed the pipe dream and started worrying about other players.
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NFL Network's Adam Schefter and NBC's Peter King say they're "hearing" the Dolphins are interested in Virginia DE Chris Long.
of course they are, they're definitely interested in the cream of the crop players. they've scouted Glen Dorsey more than anyone else so far, too. both Longs, Dorsey, Ryan, Ellis, Gholston...they're all under consideration.
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Here are additional notes that he added to the page. Interesting to see the battle between WRs.

From LZ's blog ----------------

- One scout told me that he thought it was ludicrous that I had Early Doucett in the first round when he thinks there is a chance he'll go in the 3rd. There are major differences out there in terms of opinions regarding Doucett, Limas Sweed and James Hardy.

- It is looking clearer and clearer that Vandy LT Chris Williams is the Brandon Roy of this draft. Houston Rocket fans know what I mean by that. When shooting guard Roy was coming out of college, he would have been the perfect fit for the Rockets, but as the draft got nearer, it became obvious that he was moving up and wouldn't be within reach for the Rockets. Williams would be a great get for the Texans but it is looking less and less likely that Williams will be anywhere near 18 come draft day.

- Don't be shocked if you start to hear more and more buzz about Boise State LT Ryan Clady being drafted ahead of Michigan LT Jake Long. Long had some very solid games this year, but the game against Ohio State is bothering some teams and I'm beginning to hear more and more teams who are considering moving Clady ahead of Long on their draft board.
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