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MarleyFan · 05-14-2004

Kerry Collins has been in Oakland the last couple of days, maybe nothing but thought I would pass it along!

pittbull · 05-14-2004

Isn't Oakland close enough to San Fran also. Don't get the hopes too high!

TheOgre · 05-14-2004

Oakland seems like the perfect fit for Collins. He can caddy for Gannon for a year or two. With the additions on the line, the Raiders will make all of their QB's look good. Give Collins a good line and he can pick apart a defense.

**edo783** · 05-14-2004

May indicate Gannon isn't coming along from his injury as well as they would like.

TheOgre · 05-14-2004

I think it is more indicative of the fact that they do not have an eventual replacement for Gannon. The guy probably had only 1-2 years left in him.

**edo783** · 05-14-2004

Ya, I am sure that enters into it also. I would think they would try for a younger QB than Collins though. Isn't he like 29 or so? Certainly brings the experience, but you are then back in the same situation in a couple of years. Of course I have heard that Al Davis doesn't like younger guys, particularly at QB.

TheOgre · 05-14-2004

The Raiders and Davis have a way of taking a mediocre or over-the-hill player, particularly QB's, and making them look like gold.

dirty steve · 05-14-2004

Rattay is out for a substantial amount of time--might he be a suitable short term replacement?

Fiddy · 05-14-2004

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Originally Posted by dirty steve

Rattay is out for a substantial amount of time--might he be a suitable short term replacement?

Ken Dorsey is the replacement for Rattay. All Canes are winners.

**beerlover** · 05-15-2004

with or without Collins the black & silver are a much better team than 4-12 I'll bet beer on that. As a matter of fact it was brilliant move to tank after the Superbowl embarrasment now they have both Saap & Robert Gallery. I've seen some clips of Gallery in mini-camp moving smaller, weaker lineman around like rag dolls lol.

Fiddy · 05-15-2004

No one will be able to run on the Raiders, IDK about the passing defense though.

texans · 05-15-2004

their good their too. They have two of the best DB in the league Charilers and rod woodson.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 05-23-2004

Gannon will likely be cut now. I wonder if Jon Gruden will want to reunite with him?

Carr Bombed · 05-23-2004

Wow! that leaves two former MVPs out of work and looking for a job has this ever happened before.

HoustonTexansAreTheBest · 05-23-2004

Do you really believe Gannon will be dropped. I highly doubt it. Gannon will either play and collins back up or he'll back up collins.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 05-23-2004

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Originally Posted by HoustonTexansAreTheBest

Do you really believe Gannon will be dropped. I highly doubt it. Gannon will either play and collins back up or he'll back up collins.

yes i do think he will be cut, for financial reasons of course. if gannon refuses to take a pay cut they wont have much of a choice but to cut him.

keyfro · 05-23-2004

you this is a what have you done for me lately league...gannon last year was just horrible his first few games...he couldn't really blame the line cause he had the same line the previous season...they all just looked old and tired...now though their o-line is younger but more inexperienced...wonder how this is going to play out for them

J-Man · 05-24-2004

Gannon won't drop his salary (much like Collins wouldn't)...he has said as much. He's 37 and Collins is not even 30 yet...still wet behind the ears as far as Al Davis is concerned.

Collins will sign and I think he will thrive their for a few seasons...he will have a solid line to protect him and he is as good as anyone in the NFL at the vertical passing game.

Gannon will won't be on the market long. Gruden will snap him up and Tampa will be his sunset gig for let's say about 2 seasons then he's playing shuffle board for a living.

Blake · 05-24-2004

Collins goes black.

Collins a Raider

**scourge** · 05-24-2004

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Originally Posted by J-Man

Gannon won't drop his salary (much like Collins wouldn't)...he has said as much. He's 37 and Collins is not even 30 yet...still wet behind the ears as far as Al Davis is concerned.

Actually, Gannon is 38 and Collins is 31...

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MarleyFan Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Mateo, California Age: 42 Posts: 271 Rep Power: 10	Collins in Oakland! Kerry Collins has been in Oakland the last couple of days, maybe nothing but thought I would pass it along!

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pittbull All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston Age: 39 Posts: 532 Rep Power: 10	Isn't Oakland close enough to San Fran also. Don't get the hopes too high! __________________ The Original, No Duplicating!!!

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edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	May indicate Gannon isn't coming along from his injury as well as they would like. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

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edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	Ya, I am sure that enters into it also. I would think they would try for a younger QB than Collins though. Isn't he like 29 or so? Certainly brings the experience, but you are then back in the same situation in a couple of years. Of course I have heard that Al Davis doesn't like younger guys, particularly at QB. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

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dirty steve Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Friendswood Age: 37 Posts: 1,146 Rep Power: 13	Rattay is out for a substantial amount of time--might he be a suitable short term replacement? __________________ Co-Innovator of the TFD--established 2005

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TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	Oakland seems like the perfect fit for Collins. He can caddy for Gannon for a year or two. With the additions on the line, the Raiders will make all of their QB's look good. Give Collins a good line and he can pick apart a defense.

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beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,378 Rep Power: 15075	with or without Collins the black & silver are a much better team than 4-12 I'll bet beer on that. As a matter of fact it was brilliant move to tank after the Superbowl embarrasment now they have both Saap & Robert Gallery. I've seen some clips of Gallery in mini-camp moving smaller, weaker lineman around like rag dolls lol.

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Fiddy Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Age: 25 Posts: 4,314 Rep Power: 17	No one will be able to run on the Raiders, IDK about the passing defense though. __________________ 'Anyone ready to go outside so I can make you look bad?' - Matt Schaub talking to the DBs

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texans Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 157 Rep Power: 0	their good their too. They have two of the best DB in the league Charilers and rod woodson.

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STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	Gannon will likely be cut now. I wonder if Jon Gruden will want to reunite with him?

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Carr Bombed Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wherever the US govt. sends me Posts: 12,634 Rep Power: 20239	Wow! that leaves two former MVPs out of work and looking for a job has this ever happened before.

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HoustonTexansAreTheBest Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 10	Do you really believe Gannon will be dropped. I highly doubt it. Gannon will either play and collins back up or he'll back up collins. __________________ Kerry/Edwards 2004 "Hope Is On the Way"-John Edwards

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keyfro Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 13	you this is a what have you done for me lately league...gannon last year was just horrible his first few games...he couldn't really blame the line cause he had the same line the previous season...they all just looked old and tired...now though their o-line is younger but more inexperienced...wonder how this is going to play out for them __________________ With the 10th overall pick in the 2007 NFL draft the Houston Texans select...?????

05-24-2004	#18
J-Man Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft Hood, Tx Age: 38 Posts: 402 Rep Power: 10	Gannon won't drop his salary (much like Collins wouldn't)...he has said as much. He's 37 and Collins is not even 30 yet...still wet behind the ears as far as Al Davis is concerned. Collins will sign and I think he will thrive their for a few seasons...he will have a solid line to protect him and he is as good as anyone in the NFL at the vertical passing game. Gannon will won't be on the market long. Gruden will snap him up and Tampa will be his sunset gig for let's say about 2 seasons then he's playing shuffle board for a living. __________________ Who's the Man?... J-Man, that's WHO! Eat 'em Up, KATS!

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Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,608 Rep Power: 15288	Collins goes black. Collins a Raider __________________

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