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Old 02-09-2008   #1
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http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans...irstround.html

I found this pretty interesting. Hindsight being what it is, it's easy to wonder just what some teams were thinking when they drafted a certain player at a particular spot.
Looking at this information, would you change your mind on drafting a particular player/position in this years draft, feel that YOUR ideal pick for our 1st round spot is the best player or simply hope we draft the BPA?
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I think that we have missed on only 2 players in round #1 David Carr & Jason Babin the rest have worked out well and it looked like david carr was going to work out but I think all of the hits took a a toll.
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I think that we have missed on only 2 players in round #1 David Carr & Jason Babin the rest have worked out well and it looked like david carr was going to work out but I think all of the hits took a a toll.
Travis Johnson too, IMO
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Word out of Falcon's headquarters, as published in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, is that they are seriously wanting to make roster cuts on some of their high-priced players. Among the players that will just be cut loose if that's the direction owner Arthur Blank decides to go in are: RB Warrick Dunn, LB Keith Brooking, WR Joe Horn, OT Wayne Gandy, DT Rod Coleman and TE Alge Crumpler could all be looking for a new team very soon. The Falcons are wanting to free up at least $23 million in salary-cap space. He's going to ask his top players to take a pay cut, but it's unlikely they will and so they will all be standing in the unemployment line waiting for a team to call.
I wonder if the Texans would have interest in any of those players. Rod Coleman would seem like he could compete for a starting job. And I'd love to get Alge Crumpler. I know we have Owen Daniels, but imagine if we could line up two good receiving tight ends? Probably not that realistic, but I can dream!
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I wonder if the Texans would have interest in any of those players. Rod Coleman would seem like he could compete for a starting job. And I'd love to get Alge Crumpler. I know we have Owen Daniels, but imagine if we could line up two good receiving tight ends? Probably not that realistic, but I can dream!
I'd rather have Keith Brooking.

I think he has played all 3 LB positions in his career.
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I wonder if the Texans would have interest in any of those players. Rod Coleman would seem like he could compete for a starting job. And I'd love to get Alge Crumpler. I know we have Owen Daniels, but imagine if we could line up two good receiving tight ends? Probably not that realistic, but I can dream!
Isn't Wayne Gandy a ZBS OT? and didn't he work with Gibbs in the ATL? You think he might wanna come work with him again?

Would love to have Alge and Brooking, too. AFC would be completely stacked at TE. XD
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2002: Julius Peppers DE
2003: Andre Johnson WR
2004: Dunta Robinson CB
2005: Jammal Brown LT
2006: Mario Williams DE
2007: Too soon to tell (Either Amobi or Patrick Willis)
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I wonder if the Texans would have interest in any of those players. Rod Coleman would seem like he could compete for a starting job. And I'd love to get Alge Crumpler. I know we have Owen Daniels, but imagine if we could line up two good receiving tight ends? Probably not that realistic, but I can dream!
Keith Brooking would look GREAT in a Texans Uni.

I like Owen but..... Crumpler > Daneils
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Isn't Wayne Gandy a ZBS OT? and didn't he work with Gibbs in the ATL? You think he might wanna come work with him again?
I think the Texans will probably have some interest but he turns 37 tomorrow. He'd be nice as a backup but I don't think he's a starter anymore.
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I think that we have missed on only 2 players in round #1 David Carr & Jason Babin the rest have worked out well and it looked like david carr was going to work out but I think all of the hits took a a toll.
The hits he took is because he held on to the ball too long. So in essence, he was bad from the get go and not becasue of the hits.
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Keith Brooking would look GREAT in a Texans Uni.

I like Owen but..... Crumpler > Daneils
Not last season.

Looks like Crumpler needs a running QB to be successful. With Vick, he was the first read on every pass play.

But with a pocket passer, he is the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th read on most plays & he just cant stay open that long.
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Not last season.

Looks like Crumpler needs a running QB to be successful. With Vick, he was the first read on every pass play.
I wonder how much his off year had to do with the Falcons having a bad team with multiple QBs starting during the season
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I wonder how much his off year had to do with the Falcons having a bad team with multiple QBs starting during the season
Good point. Towards the middle of the season, he started to pick up the pace a little.
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I wonder how much his off year had to do with the Falcons having a bad team with multiple QBs starting during the season
Obviously that was part of the reason.

But if you watched any Falcons games you would see how bad Crumpler looked.

He has to be the best receiver on that team, but he isnt even getting looked at.

Why is that? Because he could not get open on anything deeper than a quick route.
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Not last season.

Looks like Crumpler needs a running QB to be successful. With Vick, he was the first read on every pass play.

But with a pocket passer, he is the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th read on most plays & he just cant stay open that long.
At QB last year he had Redmen, Leftwich and Harrington aka The Three Amigos.

I think it's safe to say he needs an NFL QB to be successful.
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At QB last year he had Redmen, Leftwich and Harrington aka The Three Amigos.

I think it's safe to say he needs an NFL QB to be successful.
LOL. He had Vick before those guys.
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Keith Brooking would look GREAT in a Texans Uni.

I like Owen but..... Crumpler > Daneils
You know as a toddler my uncle told me if I stuck my finger in the light socket, I'd get shocked. Hard head that I was....it took a couple of times getting zapped before his advise took.

Quit taking players on the backside hump of their careers. It doesn't work and the only thing they get you is into cap hell.
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Marginal article by a marginal bloger. Yeah the loss of twoes tends to come back and haunt you if the prospect you are chasing turns out to be sheeet. We got it.

The draft is an art not a science. You can be beguiled by the numbers and be wrong. Conversly you can be beguiled by the film and be wrong.

I think the worse thing the Falcons could do is take the QB with their first round pick. History says, at best, it is a fifty fifty propersition. And there is no doubt this year...Cornerback is the Texans greatest need. Even if it means they must sacrifice the guy they just spent two twoes on to get one.
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