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Old 02-11-2008   #101
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For dummies.......what does that mean "Waiver process begins"? I would think simply waiving players from the team, but can't you cut someone anytime?
At the end of the season the rosters are frozen until today. Teams can still sign FA that where not on rosters, guy's like Chukky Okobi, LeRon McCoy, and Eric Powell.

Today is the day team also start cutting guys under contract they do not want to keep, guys like David Carr in Carolina.

Waiting until today does a few things, it starts the clock on the 2008 season, and it allows the league to celebrate the 2007 season, ie Pro Bowl. Now the list of FA available will grow due to the guys that are waived in the next week or so.
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I know you meant Tony Hill. But what a Freudian slip linking these two.

The most logical scenario for the Texans to trade down would involve a team targeting a player the Eagles or maybe Bucs covet. Maybe a WR/KR like Cal's Desean Jackson could interest teams looking for a home run hitter. Maybe get the Titans and the Jags in a bidding war.
Just got off telephone with Hill's agent threatening me about bringing that type of Karma to his player. SHeesh.
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At the end of the season the rosters are frozen until today. Teams can still sign FA that where not on rosters, guy's like Chukky Okobi, LeRon McCoy, and Eric Powell.

Today is the day team also start cutting guys under contract they do not want to keep, guys like David Carr in Carolina.

Waiting until today does a few things, it starts the clock on the 2008 season, and it allows the league to celebrate the 2007 season, ie Pro Bowl. Now the list of FA available will grow due to the guys that are waived in the next week or so.
And Deshaun Foster, as of about 10am this morning on 1560. He would be an interesting guy to bring in.
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And Deshaun Foster, as of about 10am this morning on 1560. He would be an interesting guy to bring in.
That sucks. I was hoping there was some way we could get DeAngelo Williams from the Panthers. I know Kubiak was high on him coming out of the draft.
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That sucks. I was hoping there was some way we could get DeAngelo Williams from the Panthers. I know Kubiak was high on him coming out of the draft.
Didn't Williams show up to camp that first year with a weight problem?
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At the end of the season the rosters are frozen until today. Teams can still sign FA that where not on rosters, guy's like Chukky Okobi, LeRon McCoy, and Eric Powell.

Today is the day team also start cutting guys under contract they do not want to keep, guys like David Carr in Carolina.

Waiting until today does a few things, it starts the clock on the 2008 season, and it allows the league to celebrate the 2007 season, ie Pro Bowl. Now the list of FA available will grow due to the guys that are waived in the next week or so.
Thank you! Sounds good then, hopefully we see some big name corners, FS's, and RB's get cut! Hell, last year Joey Porter was cut! You never know...ehem, John Lynch
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Thank you! Sounds good then, hopefully we see some big name corners, FS's, and RB's get cut! Hell, last year Joey Porter was cut! You never know...ehem, John Lynch
Lynch is in the same league as Farve... given that QB, perhaps, ages a body faster but with the way Lynch plays he'd be a quick fix and i wouldn't trust him with a contract for more than 2 years.
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I think Rick Smith & crew should keep doing what they have been doing. Finding guys like Danny Clark and Andre Davis. Guys who will play hard and give it their all without having to break the bank. Obviously we have huge holes in the secondary and the o-line and rb positions need improvement but I don't see us making a huge splash. I think we'll be primarily building through the draft which imo is the correct way to build a winning franchise for the long haul not just a quick fix.
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I think Rick Smith & crew should keep doing what they have been doing. Finding guys like Danny Clark and Andre Davis. Guys who will play hard and give it their all without having to break the bank. Obviously we have huge holes in the secondary and the o-line and rb positions need improvement but I don't see us making a huge splash. I think we'll be primarily building through the draft which imo is the correct way to build a winning franchise for the long haul not just a quick fix.
Generally, I tend to agree with this way of approaching FA.

I would like to see us test the waters with some of these defensive FAs like Briggs, Dansby, and Samuel.
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Panthers re-signed Travelle Wharton to a six-year contract.

does anyone still think the Texans will address this need via Free Agency?
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I think Rick Smith & crew should keep doing what they have been doing. Finding guys like Danny Clark and Andre Davis. Guys who will play hard and give it their all without having to break the bank. Obviously we have huge holes in the secondary and the o-line and rb positions need improvement but I don't see us making a huge splash. I think we'll be primarily building through the draft which imo is the correct way to build a winning franchise for the long haul not just a quick fix.
I pretty much agree 100% on all accounts. Bring in guys that maybe aren't superstars but will start for us. Bring in talent > than we have at a fairly inexpensive price.

Build through the draft, selecting a combo of BPA/Need. Getting guys that fit our scheme and what we're doing.

Cap space is getting better but we're still a couple years from having it under control. We're going to have a lot of money to play around with in another 2 years when we have a lot of players we like for our team. Look at Schaub, Winston, Daniels, Johnson and possibly Jones on Offense. Mario, Amobi, Demeco, Bennett on Defense. There's 4 guys on each side of the ball that are basically franchise guys for us. We still have this years draft/FA which I think we'll add another 2 long-term starters for us at the minimum (that will also be starting next season).

Then we'll be having some of these OL picks pay off for us w/ Gibbs teaching them up into at least quality back ups.
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I agree with you guys but we will have about $20 million to sign other free agents. Samuel may be out but Trufant may be attainable. Not spending cap $ for two years does not benefit the team although it does benefit McNair. A starting CB in his prime or an all pro LB? Yeah, buddy.
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it's been very quiet so far
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it's been very quiet so far
I read on MB a few days ago that Andre Davis was reported to be close to signing with Houston. Any word?
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Can we get a 15 day countdown?
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Panthers re-signed Travelle Wharton to a six-year contract.

does anyone still think the Texans will address this need via Free Agency?
most teams do not let their Cbs and OLTs walk unless they are in cap hell.
I heard speculation that 'Zona is in the market for Faneca.

Wharton had the leverge in the fact that both of their tackles are FAs and they couldn't go into the draft with no one servicable on the edge.

Any Randal Gay news ?
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Panthers re-signed Travelle Wharton to a six-year contract.

does anyone still think the Texans will address this need via Free Agency?
I imagine they'll pick up fringe players and see if a TC competition will shore up the spot.
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Well it looks like Titans DE Antwan Odom is going to hit the market with the Titans going to franchise Haynesworth.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....802140395/1027
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Brian Kelly just bought out his own contract to pursue free agency, nice size I would put him right at the top of my free agent list if I where Rick Smith

http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/2008/...-opts-out.html
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