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Old 02-08-2008   #61
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Well it looks like the Raiders are going to Franchise Nnamdi Asomugha Oakland UFA so we won't have a shot at him.
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Well it looks like the Raiders are going to Franchise Nnamdi Asomugha Oakland UFA so we won't have a shot at him.
Uh, oh. Down to Tufant? On re-signing Dunte, I think the Texans should wait as long as possible after he returns to verify his recovery. I am very tired of giving cap $ to injured players. If we came up with a starter in Bennett in 4th round, I can see Rick Smith doing his thing again.

Question, if a non starting QB restricted free agent was worth two 2nds to become our starter, would we attempt a trade for Asomugha?
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Man, that sucks that we can't get him. In my mind, that was always the big reason he wouldn't come here, though.
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Uh, oh. Down to Tufant? On re-signing Dunte, I think the Texans should wait as long as possible after he returns to verify his recovery. I am very tired of giving cap $ to injured players. If we came up with a starter in Bennett in 4th round, I can see Rick Smith doing his thing again.

Question, if a non starting QB restricted free agent was worth two 2nds to become our starter, would we attempt a trade for Asomugha?
If he's tagged. Hope you're willing to give like 2 firsts or something.

Looks more and more at this point we'll be looking at LBs,S, and maybe a second tier CB(My guess is Trufant could get tagged too). Other then Turner(who i'm still not that high on) I don't see any major FA RB.

I guess we'll see what Smith does but.... looks more and more towards CB in the first now.
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If he's tagged. Hope you're willing to give like 2 firsts or something.

Looks more and more at this point we'll be looking at LBs,S, and maybe a second tier CB(My guess is Trufant could get tagged too). Other then Turner(who i'm still not that high on) I don't see any major FA RB.

I guess we'll see what Smith does but.... looks more and more towards CB in the first now.
I agree. But remember that the talk on Schaub was two firsts and Atlanta took less. Just saying. I like Asante Samuel but doubt Smith will go that high. At least, if we do not get a CB in FA, we can rectify that in draft. I'm just leery of Bennett and a rookie. Does this give FS Demps an advantage in his negotiations?

Needing a corner in draft would make a trade down more enticing.

How about a trade with Dallas for both 1s? They get our #18 and our 4th round this year + our #1 next year.

Texans go for a CB and either a LT or RB with two firsts and in 3rd the opposite LT or RB? We fill three major holes. I think Dallas would accept this.
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I don't see the Texans relying on a rookie in what ever round going into next season at the CB position I think we will spend the money on a top corner and it depends on where Daunta is in recovery how much they will spend. I think if he is far off they will go after Asante Samuel if he is really close they will probably go after Drayton Florence or Trufant because based off what was reported on the NFL Network the seahawks will not franchise him.
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I agree. But remember that the talk on Schaub was two firsts and Atlanta took less. Just saying.
Schaub had a high RFA tender so it was a 1st and 3rd as the starting point.

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Samuel negotiated last year to not be tagged this year so there is no pick consideration for him, just a boatload of money.
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Schaub had a high RFA tender so it was a 1st and 3rd as the starting point.



Samuel negotiated last year to not be tagged this year so there is no pick consideration for him, just a boatload of money.
Thanks for the correction. Did not mean to mis-speak but thought the 1st & 3rd was a come down from the two firsts. Icak, your thoughts on a possible trade? I just don't think the Texans will give up much but I agree with Pharoah that starting a rookie and a sophomore is risky. That being said, Bennett can hold his own and depends on whom we selected in draft I guess?
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How about a trade with Dallas for both 1s? They get our #18 and our 4th round this year + our #1 next year.

I think Dallas would accept this.
Why? And why would Smith & Kubiak gamble next year's pick? What if injuries to AJ or Mario or DeMeco push the Texans up into the top 10? The Texans aren't one player (at the 28th pick in the draft) away from the Super Bowl. Dallas might be, that's why they'll keep the pick or try to move into the top 10.
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Ok guys we have to look at the CB free Agents that we think the texans will sign now that CB Asomugha, Nnamdi UFA Raiders will get the franchise tag who do you guys and gals think the texans will sign to contract and who will be the best fit for our defense?

I like Marcus Trufant and with Ray Rhodes coming over from the Seahawks I think that it will be an easy sell since he is on the staff plus it is our biggest need outside of Running back and the Safety position.
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I don't see the Texans relying on a rookie in what ever round going into next season at the CB position I think we will spend the money on a top corner and it depends on where Daunta is in recovery how much they will spend. I think if he is far off they will go after Asante Samuel if he is really close they will probably go after Drayton Florence or Trufant because based off what was reported on the NFL Network the seahawks will not franchise him.
No way this team goes after Florence after the Schaub hit.

But I do agree on I don't think we'll be straight relying on A rookie and a Sophmore corner. Trufant will probably be the guy we'll target.

Dunta is a BIG question mark and I really hope he not only makes it back but is still at full speed.Guy has drive so i wouldn't under estimate anything he does. His injury really came ata bad time far as do we sign him to a long term extension like we smartly did with AJ. Prior to the injury it would've been an inmmediate yes.

My conern in going aftert a top flight corner is like San Fran last year spendinga boatload on Nate and still being sub par.
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Icak, your thoughts on a possible trade?
I think the attitude of basically every GM and particularly this one is to entertain and even solicit trade offers. What actually gets presented on draft day is something we generally don't hear about unless the deal gets done. I think we will again see them try (we may not see the failures) to bring in several FA's to upgrade the positions of highest need so the draft picks have less pressure to start. We'll just have to see what they pull off in free agency.
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No way this team goes after Florence after the Schaub hit.

But I do agree on I don't think we'll be straight relying on A rookie and a Sophmore corner. Trufant will probably be the guy we'll target.

Dunta is a BIG question mark and I really hope he not only makes it back but is still at full speed.Guy has drive so i wouldn't under estimate anything he does. His injury really came ata bad time far as do we sign him to a long term extension like we smartly did with AJ. Prior to the injury it would've been an inmmediate yes.

My conern in going aftert a top flight corner is like San Fran last year spendinga boatload on Nate and still being sub par.
I agree with you but we have to draft really good and not rely on one free agent signing. I think we sign at least one big free agent and the rest will be mid level guys but we need to bring in guys who are at the starting level.
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Trufant will probably be the guy we'll target.

My conern in going aftert a top flight corner is like San Fran last year spendinga boatload on Nate and still being sub par.
Well, the contract that Clement got (8 years, $80 million, $22 million guaranteed) will be the starting point with Trufant. Do you really believe the Texans will make an offer like that? I can't see it.
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Well, the contract that Clement got (8 years, $80 million, $22 million guaranteed) will be the starting point with Trufant. Do you really believe the Texans will make an offer like that? I can't see it.
No one will get the type of contract for a cornerback again unless they Deion Sanders type ability and I think that the owners see that so we all know Marcus Trufant will not command that type of money he won't get over 30 million for his entire contract.
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Really, how?

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so we all know Marcus Trufant will not command that type of money he won't get over 30 million for his entire contract.
History doesn't really support that kind of number.

Safety Chris Hope--$30 mil contract in 2006
Aged CB Ty Law--$31.5 mil contact in 2006
Charles Woodson--$52.5 mil contract in 2006
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Rick Smith has said (1) that he wants some DBs with size and (2) that they will not be spending an exobitant ammount of money.

Therefore, I would look for guys like Williams James from Philly or Randall Gay from NE.
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Rick Smith has said (1) that he wants some DBs with size and (2) that they will not be spending an exobitant ammount of money.

Therefore, I would look for guys like Williams James from Philly or Randall Gay from NE.
I thought Randal Gay got his contract extended recently.
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I thought Randal Gay got his contract extended recently.
I don't know, if he did scratch him.

I just picked a couple guys off the FA lists that fit what we're looking for.
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I thought Randal Gay got his contract extended recently.
I thought he did to but I have not found it listed on any transaction page.
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