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Old 02-04-2008   #1
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Default A large portion of America seems to love to hate Bill Belichick

Floating around the internet last night and today are tons of articles and blogs about the game last night. A prevailing theme seems to be about hating Belichick. Maybe it is because his name lends itself so nicely to being abused. Some of my personal favorites are:

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MJD's blog about Belichick leaving the field early has over 13,300 comments posted on it. I've never seen 13,000 comments on a blog.

So I thought he might be deserving of his own personal thread over here. Have fun with America's new favorite passtime - trashing Belicheat, er Belichoke, I mean Belichick (I heard he was juggling two in Arizona last week)
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Geesh, it's two seconds, big deal.

Nobody but Bill knows what it's like to be a HC of an 18-0 team, only to see them choke away a piece of NFL history. He still shook Coughlin's hand, but most likely wanted no part of the 3-ring circus of today's media. I don't blame him.

People like dancing on graves, I guess.
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Default Re: A large portion of America seems to love to hate Bill Belichick

It aint a past time, its a show....

and who likes cheaters? not me....
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Default Re: A large portion of America seems to love to hate Bill Belichick

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It aint a past time, its a show....

and who likes cheaters? not me....
So the Astros should give back that Word Series appearance and post-season wins since it was on the backs of two cheating pitchers, 'eh?

People calling him "Belichoke" are a joke. Dude only has 3 rings as a HC and more rings as an assistance coach. He'll be back.
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So the Astros should give back that Word Series appearance and post-season wins since it was on the backs of two cheating pitchers, 'eh?

People calling him "Belichoke" are a joke. Dude only has 3 rings as a HC and more rings as an assistance coach. He'll be back.
sure, if everyone else does.....

how far back does the cheating thing go? the freaking rams game!!!

they cheated, no argument about that, people just argue to justify it, but there is no justification for cheating.......
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sure, if everyone else does.....

how far back does the cheating thing go? the freaking rams game!!!

they cheated, no argument about that, people just argue to justify it, but there is no justification for cheating.......
People justify hate, too.

You do realize that other NFL coaches admitted to stealing signals, yeah? And you understand that scouts have tried to watch other teams' practices for decades?

It is naive to believe that cheating is not part of the game. Just like getting caught and paying a price is part of the game.

Watch NFL Films long enough, and you'll quickly learn that players and coaches have been circumventing the rules and downright cheating since the beginning. The Championship Oakland Raiders coined the term "if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying" as part of their team slogan. It is now celebrated NFL lore.

It's fun to watch so many folks get so emotional about something that has absolutely no effect on their lives. It's only entertainment at the end of the day.

And you still didn't answer my question about our beloved Astros. Their post-season success has been tainted now, right? Do you forgive them?
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Geesh, it's two seconds, big deal.

Nobody but Bill knows what it's like to be a HC of an 18-0 team, only to see them choke away a piece of NFL history. He still shook Coughlin's hand, but most likely wanted no part of the 3-ring circus of today's media. I don't blame him.

People like dancing on graves, I guess.
I can't stand Belichek as much as the next person, but people who ridiculed him for leaving the field early are being ridiculous...

As I said in the other thread, he congratulated Coughlin at mid-field before the refs. could clear the field to play out the last second or two when everyone assumed the game was over... Why would he go back out there??? He already congratulated the Giants, now let them celebrate.

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Default Re: A large portion of America seems to love to hate Bill Belichick

I have more issue with his sportsmanship (running up the score, leaving last nite before the final whistle etc.) than I do with any of the cheating accusations. I have always found them way overblown/overrated, and I have no doubt that all 31 other teams have done what he did, no matter how vehemently they deny it.

But for him to sprint off the field? I wonder how guys like Joe Gibbs, who watched him go for it up 38-0 or something, or Cam Cameron, who watched him re-insert Brady when the Pats lead was "gasp" down to 42-21, or Dick Juaron, who watched the Pats pile it on and on and on at Ralph Wilson Stadium...all feel today? They all waited until 0:00 and shook his hand.

Karma was a ***** to him last nite more for those reasons, and I hope it continues into next season, and next. The cheating stuff? Whatever.
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People justify hate, too.

You do realize that other NFL coaches admitted to stealing signals, yeah? And you understand that scouts have tried to watch other teams' practices for decades?

It is naive to believe that cheating is not part of the game. Just like getting caught and paying a price is part of the game.

Watch NFL Films long enough, and you'll quickly learn that players and coaches have been circumventing the rules and downright cheating since the beginning. The Championship Oakland Raiders coined the term "if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying" as part of their team slogan. It is now celebrated NFL lore.

It's fun to watch so many folks get so emotional about something that has absolutely no effect on their lives. It's only entertainment at the end of the day.

And you still didn't answer my question about our beloved Astros. Their post-season success has been tainted now, right? Do you forgive them?
I dont condone any of that cheating, Inegrity counts for alot in my book. They cheated plain and simple, I mean tapeing a run through of the other team before a superbowl is just down right dirty. Theres no one holding a gun to anyones head making them cheat, its a choice. And to say cheating is part of the game is just stupid, I dont know what kind games you play, but its not tolerated where i come from.

About the Astros, yes, if roger took roids then the are, luckily ive always thought of roger as a baseball "whore" and couldnt care less what happens to him. But yes, I am still a huge fan and love my team no matter what, but luckily it was only andy and clemens both yankees in my mind. But it wasnt just the Astros most teams past is now tainted with these alogations. I think they should continue to teast and move on....
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I have more issue with his sportsmanship (running up the score, leaving last nite before the final whistle etc.) than I do with any of the cheating accusations. I have always found them way overblown/overrated, and I have no doubt that all 31 other teams have done what he did, no matter how vehemently they deny it.

But for him to sprint off the field? I wonder how guys like Joe Gibbs, who watched him go for it up 38-0 or something, or Cam Cameron, who watched him re-insert Brady when the Pats lead was "gasp" down to 42-21, or Dick Juaron, who watched the Pats pile it on and on and on at Ralph Wilson Stadium?

Karma was a ***** to him last nite more for those reasons, and I hope it continues into next season, and next. The cheating stuff? Whatever.

I guess you were one of the people that didn't see him shake Coughlin's hand, hug and congratulate him BEFORE before the refs and decided that they needed to clear the play because they determined that technically there was still a second on the clock...


Again, Hate on Belichek all you want (and I do), but don't go reaching for stuff thats just not there...
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Leaving the feild was absolutely classless. But if he was a cheater he got what he deserved. Cheaters never win.
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i thought the game was over too and then they put 1 sec back on......it's not that big of a deal really.....y come back out just for a kneel down
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jags MB was reporting Brady went off the field without shaking hands with anyone ..I dont' recall it but looking it up , San Diego MB reporting it too.

http://forum.signonsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=83479

Again not sure if true or just upset that Pats beat both teams in playoffs this year
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I guess you were one of the people that didn't see him shake Coughlin's hand, hug and congratulate him BEFORE before the refs and decided that they needed to clear the play because they determined that technically there was still a second on the clock...


Again, Hate on Belichek all you want (and I do), but don't go reaching for stuff thats just not there...
Damn that TB, out of respect for your opponent you just don't do that, whether it was 1 second or 1 minute. & it's the little things like this that get under people's skin. I remember when moss did it, he got the same reaction, why is it supposed to be different with him? Reminds me of Augie Gaurido not letting his team come out for the CWS after they lost 1 year.

& if Brady left without shaking hands then he's a POS too.

He just needs to man up & stop being a baby.
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I can't stand Belichek as much as the next person, but people who ridiculed him for leaving the field early are being ridiculous...

As I said in the other thread, he congratulated Coughlin at mid-field before the refs. could clear the field to play out the last second or two when everyone assumed the game was over... Why would he go back out there??? He already congratulated the Giants, now let them celebrate.

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sure, if everyone else does.....

how far back does the cheating thing go? the freaking rams game!!!

they cheated, no argument about that, people just argue to justify it, but there is no justification for cheating.......
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I would have done the same thing he did, or worse. Imagine watching your undefeated team lose at the last minute, on the big stage. Wow.
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Ive heard that, I dont buy it though.....
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I guess you were one of the people that didn't see him shake Coughlin's hand, hug and congratulate him BEFORE before the refs and decided that they needed to clear the play because they determined that technically there was still a second on the clock...


Again, Hate on Belichek all you want (and I do), but don't go reaching for stuff thats just not there...
I don't lose a wink of sleep over him. I do lose sleep over the fact my team has yet to give me one lousy ring, let alone three.
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Damn that TB, out of respect for your opponent you just don't do that, whether it was 1 second or 1 minute. & it's the little things like this that get under people's skin. I remember when moss did it, he got the same reaction, why is it supposed to be different with him? Reminds me of Augie Gaurido not letting his team come out for the CWS after they lost 1 year.

& if Brady left without shaking hands then he's a POS too.

He just needs to man up & stop being a baby.
He (Belicheat)had already congratulated him (Coughlin) when both teams spilled on the field thinking the game was over............
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