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Old 01-29-2008   #1
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Can't we be resigning our own Free Agents right now? I would have thought we would have at least resigned a few guys by now. Especially Defense.
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Can't we be resigning our own Free Agents right now? I would have thought we would have at least resigned a few guys by now. Especially Defense.
I don't think it's that period yet. When you start hearing teams signing their UFA's then we'll know. RIght now I think players are just getting "tendered" to deals.
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we're allowed resign FA's now if we want to but look around at all the other teams- hardly nobody is doing it yet
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2/7-21 Window for teams to designate franchise and transition tags
2/11 First day teams can cut players
2/20-26 Scouting combine (probably also aired by NFLN)
2/28 Deadline to tender RFAs and ERFAs
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4/26-27 2008 NFL Draft


According to Smith and Kubiak they are still evaluating our guys, the prospective FAs, and the draft. You need to figure out if the guy you have is better then the guy you are trying to sign. Or do you think you can upgrade by letting someone go.
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I gotta little birdy on my shoulder telling me we MAY lose Von Hutchinson to the dreaded cowpolkes. And Andre Davis, if someone offers him #1 money, the texans will let him walk. Just brace yourselves there boys and gurls.


Davis is twenty-eight, and this is his last chance at the brass ring. If someone offers him the farm he's got to take the deal. He's going to be one of the very hot FAs this year. On the one hand you can say it sucks we'll lose a very good and productive player. On the other hand, the first sign there is some legitmate tallent on the club is when people steal them from you.
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we're allowed resign FA's now if we want to but look around at all the other teams- hardly nobody is doing it yet
Then who are these guys? ...camp fodder?? Practice squad hopefuls??

1/15/08 Chukky Okobi C (ARI) Signed
1/15/08 Dan Stevenson G Signed
1/10/08 LeRon McCoy WR Signed
1/3/08 Kevis Coley LB Signed
1/3/08 Greg Eslinger C (PS?) Signed
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1/3/08 Derrick Johnson CB (MIA) Signed
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Then who are these guys? ...camp fodder?? Practice squad hopefuls??

1/15/08 Chukky Okobi C (ARI) Signed
1/15/08 Dan Stevenson G Signed
1/10/08 LeRon McCoy WR Signed
1/3/08 Kevis Coley LB Signed
1/3/08 Greg Eslinger C (PS?) Signed
1/3/08 Arliss Beach RB
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1/3/08 Derrick Johnson CB (MIA) Signed
1/3/08 Derrick Roberson CB
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1/3/08 Brandon Mitchell S
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1/3/08 Eric Powell DE (BUF) Signed

i meant resign fa's who are already on their teams ie. AD, demps for us, dansby in arixona, jared allen in KC etc
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Ahman Green won't make it past lunch on February, 11, 2008.
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IIRC, he'd cost us quite a bit to cut him. He'll be here next season.
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I gotta little birdy on my shoulder telling me we MAY lose Von Hutchinson to the dreaded cowpolkes. And Andre Davis, if someone offers him #1 money, the texans will let him walk. Just brace yourselves there boys and gurls.


Davis is twenty-eight, and this is his last chance at the brass ring. If someone offers him the farm he's got to take the deal. He's going to be one of the very hot FAs this year. On the one hand you can say it sucks we'll lose a very good and productive player. On the other hand, the first sign there is some legitmate tallent on the club is when people steal them from you.
Nobody is going to offer Andre Davis WR1 money...unless Casserly is the GM somewhere and I'm not aware of it. If we had a NFL caliber secondary losing Hutchinson would be like losing Hodgdon from our offensive line. I'm not sure I'll have to brace for that one.
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Nobody is going to offer Andre Davis WR1 money...unless Casserly is the GM somewhere and I'm not aware of it. If we had a NFL caliber secondary losing Hutchinson would be like losing Hodgdon from our offensive line. I'm not sure I'll have to brace for that one.
I assume we mean Von Hutchins?

I agree here. Hutchins can hit the road unless we could bring him back dirt cheap as depth.

IMO, AD will be a Texan. If he demands too much money for a good half season, then he can leave as well. SmithGM (& Co) has shown smarts with the cap and contract numbers so I'm not worried about it.

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Nobody is going to offer Andre Davis WR1 money...unless Casserly is the GM somewhere and I'm not aware of it. If we had a NFL caliber secondary losing Hutchinson would be like losing Hodgdon from our offensive line. I'm not sure I'll have to brace for that one.
I don't know...I can the Titans doing it. They have TONS of cap space, and they are desperate for some WR's. Not to mention AD would make a good return man for them since they lost Pacman.
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I don't know...I can the Titans doing it. They have TONS of cap space, and they are desperate for some WR's. Not to mention AD would make a good return man for them since they lost Pacman.
Andre Davis is a well spoken, decent person and a good team mate. That doesn't sound like a tack to me...
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Nobody is going to offer Andre Davis WR1 money...unless Casserly is the GM somewhere and I'm not aware of it. If we had a NFL caliber secondary losing Hutchinson would be like losing Hodgdon from our offensive line. I'm not sure I'll have to brace for that one.
I dunno Dan Synder is always around. He gave Randle El that insane contract.

Honestly I see AD here next year. I think the FO has been candid in their want to re-sign him and as Smith put it he "fits here". As FA receiver I don't know of a much more attractive situation. An established #1 and an offense despite losing the starting QB, RB and so many turnovers still finished 6 or 7th in offense. There's something brewing here and I hope he realizes that AND wants to be a part of it.
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IIRC, he'd cost us quite a bit to cut him. He'll be here next season.
We were all disappointed with Green's first year with Houston. I am always the first to give the benifit of the doubt and we gave Davis(Williams) OTAs at least. That still didn't work but Davis didn't have the resemee that Green has. Saying this, Kubiak seems to have learned from his mistakes so Green will probably cut him no matter what.
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IIRC, he'd cost us quite a bit to cut him. He'll be here next season.
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The 500k is a roster bonus and the 200k is an off-season workout bonus (each year through '10).

The unique thing about his roster bonus is that it's not a lump sum. It's paid incrementally - $31,250 per game for games that he's on the 45 man active roster. Smart.

The workout bonus is paid only if he participates in at least 90% of the off season program.

My earlier post #10 is still accurate and it closes the loop on posts #14 and #31.

Green would cost $3.75 million on the cap to cut (likely spread over two years) if he was cut, and he could cost as much as $5.75 million on the cap to keep this year if he was active for every game and met his workout bonus criteria. Of course if he was active for all 16 games and produced like a RB1 should, he would be worth $5.75 million on the cap.
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I can see the FO doing the same thing they did with Vonta Leach (and maybe Ron Dayne) last year.

Seems like Rick Smith has no problem letting another team negotiate with his free agents. If it's somebody he wants to keep around, then he just matches the offer.

I'm really hoping that we can keep Andre Davis and Will Demps around this offseason.
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We were all disappointed with Green's first year with Houston. I am always the first to give the benifit of the doubt and we gave Davis(Williams) OTAs at least. That still didn't work but Davis didn't have the resemee that Green has. Saying this, Kubiak seems to have learned from his mistakes so Green will probably cut him no matter what.
I'm not saying I want him to return. I just think he'll be here next season if healthy.

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Thanks I-Cak. I still have a strong hunch he'll be around next season. I might be wrong, by George it wouldn't be the first time.
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I can see the FO doing the same thing they did with Vonta Leach (and maybe Ron Dayne) last year.

Seems like Rick Smith has no problem letting another team negotiate with his free agents. If it's somebody he wants to keep around, then he just matches the offer.

I'm really hoping that we can keep Andre Davis and Will Demps around this offseason.
Little different deal. Leach was a RFA so the Texans had the right to match the offer. Davis and Demps are UFA's so the Texans have nothing but a year's loyalty to having matching make them return.
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I can see Davis resigning with us.

I've heard he's really grateful for us giving him the chance that no one else would. He also likes it here, so I'm sure he'll get his agent to sign where he wants.
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