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Old 11-28-2004   #21
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1st Marcus Spears
2nd Ruud(ILB from Nebraska)
3A T.A. McLendon OR KayJay Harris
3B Gibson(WR from Georgia)
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

If we draft Fred Gibson I will tear my hair out!! That guy is the biggest weenie ever. He drops passes, is scared to go across the middle, and is injury prone. This guy sold his SEC championship ring on EBAY. Needless to say he got in trouble for it and revealed his real character. Don't draft Fred Gibson!!!!
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DL-tons FA losses possible, 4 of 6, no young players developing
TE-Even with Joppru healthy, need more than one of quality
C-tons of guys who can play center, but none who can push McKinney
ILB-None drafted in 3 years,
CB-never can have too many of quality, Glenn not spring chicken
RB-Only if the guy is a true workhorse


Okay I can't count...only 3 asked for
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Is Gary Walker getting the job done? NOOO! The only QB Walker has laid his hands on this entire season is David Carr and that was in the locker room! In the (Bench Babin and Start Peek thread) i said the same thing and suggested Peek as a LE because of his pass rushing skills even he might not do good stopping the run, and some guy laughed at me. Bottom line is G Walker is old and washed up, I haven't seen him beat an O-Lineman since last year and next to all of that he's always hurt!

I will give him credit for stopping the run and cloggin up the lanes however but thats it.
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Is Gary Walker getting the job done? NOOO! The only QB Walker has laid his hands on this entire season is David Carr and that was in the locker room! In the (Bench Babin and Start Peek thread) i said the same thing and suggested Peek as a LE because of his pass rushing skills even he might not do good stopping the run, and some guy laughed at me. Bottom line is G Walker is old and washed up, I haven't seen him beat an O-Lineman since last year and next to all of that he's always hurt!

I will give him credit for stopping the run and cloggin up the lanes however but thats it.
Peek isn't a 3-4 lineman. All 3-4 linemen are 300 pounders and use two-gap techniques to absorb blocks to free up the linebackers.
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yeah i understand he couldn't play as a lineman in the 3-4 defense, we'd get ran over, but when they call dime and prevent packages he would be nice to have in
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If you watch enough games you will see they put him and Babin in as ends in a 3-point stance in many of their pass rush packages.
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Wong, Peek, and Babin have all seen time as DE in Nickle and Dime packages. Peek isn't a solution at DE in the 3-4 though.

As for the needs I'd think our big three would be:

1. DL
2. RB
3. ILB or CB

It would be nice to have some young DLineman given a chance to adjust to the NFL without having to come in and play right away. I like Marcus Spears, but who knows what direction the team will got. We definately need to pick up a good RB, and we might be able to find a good one in the 2nd or 3rd. As many have mentioned we've never drafted an ILB in 3 years, and it would be nice to pick one up if he's the BPA (Best Player Available). CB is tempting too becuase Glenn may not have many more seasons left, and Faggins doesn't look like a starting caliber CB.
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I think our three biggest "needs" are TE, RB, and ILB. I'd like to have a new starter in these three positions next season. Either FA or a first day pick.
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I'm sorry what was the question again? Oh yeah, three things the Texans need to improve upon.

1). Speed up front in the defensive line- Marcus Spears
2). QB/offensive play calling- Spread the ball around to the WR's including the TE.
3). Pluck another pair (Wade, Smith) of premium free agents this offseason (Alge Crumpler TE/Atlanta & Lamont Jordan RB/Jets) both drafted in 2001 2nd round & ready to become big time offensive weapons.
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don't we have 2 3rd round pick? so make it top 4 picks.

1.RB
2.ILB
3.DT/DE
4.OL

not in any particular order

What are the chances we can draft derrick johnson and have him play inside?

what are the chances of drafting cedrick benson?
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yes you are correct. The Texans traded Henson to Dallas for their third round pick
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I thought WR would be the issue but I like Derrick Armstrong (I hope he moves past Gaffney into #2).

In no particular order:
1. HB
2. TE
3. C
4. DE/DT
5. ILB

Ideally we can cover one or two of these needs in FA and find the other 3-4 on the first day of the draft.
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What are the chances we can draft derrick johnson and have him play inside?
Apparently Derek Johnson is considered a chase tackler. Scouts think his biggest weakness is head on tackling. Chances of him playing middle linebacker are not very good.
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I disagree with you on McKinney. I think he is the weak link in the line. Wand and Pitts are improving although I thought Pitts was way better as our LT than Wand. I don't understand why we switched Pitts but maybe Vinny knows. Wiegert has some years left in him and Wade is here to stay because of the price we paid for his services. As far as TE goes I'm hoping Joppru will be healthy next year and play up to expectations. If not then yes that would be another area we would have to address.
I am not Vinny, but as I recall, Pitts was a true guard out of college and that position means he may have to block left or right depending on play. Also he is listed @ 6'3" 320 lbs with quicker feet & Wand is 6'7" 327. Wand as a newer player usually has to block only one way and is a true tackle. As a bigger and theoretically stronger guy, he should do better against the defense best rusher. But then Pendry new line coach threw this new offensive blocking scheme in. I realize a lot of teams are zone blocking but if we don't get it by game 16, I suggest we switch back in 2005. All we had with the old scheme was 1000 yds for Davis and almost same for Andre.

Tight end? Joppru having sat for 2 years, needs to come on strong in off season and spring training or cut him. We can get by one more year with Miller and Breuner( 32 yoa but doesn't play much anyway) and Matt Murphy might end up being interesting next year @ 6'5" and 260 lb. Anywho, tight end had practically disappeared from our scheme until yesterday.

As Walker and Payne can not stay healthy and R. Smith has not been all that, I think first 2 picks should address dline. The Lbacks seem ok as we have seemingly given up the need for sacks from OLB. Need a back up plan for Foreman and I'd look there with 3rd pick from Dallas. Unsure what is available @ Free agent in off season. If a hotshot corner or safety avail @ Texan's pick in 3rd round, I'd go that way. I think we will draft no higher than 15.

I also have mixed emotions about Cedric Bensen. I do not think he would get any where near the carries he will need to be successful in H'town.
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Pitts was a starting left tackle in college and never played football in HS. He was projected to play guard at the pro level because of his build. This is the first time he has actually has ever played OG though (unless he did it before high school).

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Apparently Derek Johnson is considered a chase tackler. Scouts think his biggest weakness is head on tackling. Chances of him playing middle linebacker are not very good.
If we got him Id see him being the starting ROLB with Wong moving inside. He has to start and they arent going to replace the other 1 rounder Babin.
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Defense has to be the top priority. After that I think we can go running back and tight end. We should be in the playoffs next year, and I don't want to hear about the so called 5 year plan. It has always been the 4 year plan. If we don't significantly improve our defense then we'll have to face the "5 year plan". I love the way David Pollack plays, but I don't know if he'll fit in our team and the scheme we run, but that guy goes all out every play.
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1) Every down RB (Ronnie Brown)
2) Young D-lineman (Rodrique Wright or Marcus Spears)
3) ILB to pair with Sharper (Derrick Johnson)
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I'm not a big college fan so i don't know to much about the players you guys have been listing i know Derrick Johnson is a beasts at ILB, but I've been hearing Marcus Spears name alot and you say he is a D-Lineman.

I just want to know what type of player spears is as far as his size and speed, and if he would be on the inside or outside in the 3-4 formation. Also what round high or low would you think he'd be drafted.

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