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Old 01-29-2008   #41
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no, they play man because that is what Fisher coaches....he uses his S in the box more than most teams and put his corners on an island as a foundation of his hybrid 46 defense...not so much 46 now, but he is a heavy man concept believer and always has been way back to his days here in Houston.
Granted. Fisher's philosophy flows from - as you alluded to - Buddy Ryan's pressure 46-defense.

Personally, I'd like to see that philosophy - more pressure from up front - instituted here.
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Nah, I'm with beerlover on this one. I'm not sure what his salary was or what it will be, but I'm willing to bet he'll be getting paid more than a position coaches asst. Otherwise, why would he come here? I think the title was given because they didn't want to lose or demote existing coaches.
I wasn't really disagreeing with beerlover.

I don't think he's going to come in and over step his bounds though. I don't think he's going be an authoritative voice by any means. I really see him as a guy that has a wealth of knowledge and will basically be here as a reference.

I think he'll offer up some input, make a few suggestions and of course assist the d-backs coach.

And I think he came here because this is a young team growing into itself and who wouldn't want to have a hand in helping build something ? Plus his familiarity with Kubiak...Anywho, I'm sure he didn't come here strictly for the power and money...
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I'm not a big fan of his defensive schemes....but he does bring lots of needed experince to the defensive side of the ball, and I do think we needed that. Get ready for lots of soft defense in between the 20's though.
Great, another prevent specialist. Maybe Rob Bironas can kick another 8 FGs to beat us again.

If he's mentoring Richard Smith, what do they talk about? Soft coverages of twenty vs. thirty yards back? Not too many prevent/soft defenses put fear into opponents. "Bend but don't break" defensive philosophy is akin to "play not to lose" mentality in offenses. Weak. I'd much rather see an aggressive style that occasionally gets burned instead of the dink and dunk defense that lets opponents consistently run down the field. Blow games open versus keeping it close until the fourth quarter. JMO

I'll hope for the best, and obviously expect to see our DBs learn from his knowledge. He's got a lot of experience, so that could definitely help us mature as a unit.
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Something I don't think has been mentioned; maybe he actually is her to assist Hoke? Maybe, after the job he did last year, Hoke has a gentleman's agreement that he's next in line if Smith doesn't shape up this yea.
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I just hope Rhodes is sitting in the game booth on gameday making Richard Smith sweat.....................
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I'm not going to belittle the hire. I stand by my original take. A guy with a bad ticker who is moving back home to be close to some high end help and his family. I do not excpect this guy to be working eighteen hours a day. I'm sure Hoke and the rest of them will close their mouths and listen when he open his.
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I'm not going to belittle the hire. I stand by original take. A guy with a bad ticker who is moving back home to be close to some high end help and his family. I do not excpect this guy to be working eighteen hours a day. I'm sure Hoke and the rest of them will close their mouths and listen when he open his.
I'm glad we are bringing in more experience. I just don't see his schemes as anything special...but he is a sound NFL coach with head coaching experience and he is supposedly a great communicator who has good relationships with his players (ie they play hard for him). I think that Richard Smith and Hoke could use more great communicators on their side of the ball....I think the players will listen to Rhodes.
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Great, another prevent specialist. Maybe Rob Bironas can kick another 8 FGs to beat us again.

If he's mentoring Richard Smith, what do they talk about? Soft coverages of twenty vs. thirty yards back? Not too many prevent/soft defenses put fear into opponents. "Bend but don't break" defensive philosophy is akin to "play not to lose" mentality in offenses. Weak. I'd much rather see an aggressive style that occasionally gets burned instead of the dink and dunk defense that lets opponents consistently run down the field. Blow games open versus keeping it close until the fourth quarter. JMO

I'll hope for the best, and obviously expect to see our DBs learn from his knowledge. He's got a lot of experience, so that could definitely help us mature as a unit.
One way to look at it is that this style is pretty much what the Colts do and we have all kinds of trouble handling their defense. This style is lame when you don't play it right or it isn't coached well or if you don't have the right players...or any combination of the above. I think the reality of the situation is that it is easier to find players who can play facing the QB (zone) easier than you can find great press corners like Champ Bailey.
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We went with Bennett and Harrison last year in the draft and I expect us to go DB in the 1st. Rhodes is here to help develop the young secondary and get his feet wet for future prospective responsibilites in my opinion.
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I'm glad we are bringing in more experience. I just don't see his schemes as anything special...but he is a sound NFL coach with head coaching experience and he is supposedly a great communicator who has good relationships with his players (ie they play hard for him). I think that Richard Smith and Hoke could use more great communicators on their side of the ball....I think the players will listen to Rhodes. One way to look at it is that this style is pretty much what the Colts do and we have all kinds of trouble handling their defense. This style is lame when you don't play it right or it isn't coached well or if you don't have the right players...or any combination of the above. I think the reality of the situation is that it is easier to find players who can play facing the QB (zone) easier than you can find great press corners like Champ Bailey.
Agreed.

This can't be said enough. I also think that Kubiak feels comfortable having a babysitter over on the defense who has done this before. Even if Hoke is the best guy evaaar, the Texans were his first NFL job. And his secondary stunk. And probably would have stunk even if they would have stayed healthy. And are generally bad at getting picks. And have been painful to watch.

McNair said that after the season they evaluated their coaches and players. And look who gets the help coachingwise--the offensive line/running game and the secondary. They changed the coaching on the defensive line when that wasn't working.

Oh, I would dearly love to see a dominating smart defense. Last year, it was nice to see the offense be able to actually look like something that is seen in the NFL (the pre-Kubiak offenses seem like a really bad dream.) A dominating defense is fun because it gets so loud. I would like to be able to watch a Texans defense and not worry so much about a "there we go again moment."
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I'm glad we are bringing in more experience. I just don't see his schemes as anything special...but he is a sound NFL coach with head coaching experience and he is supposedly a great communicator who has good relationships with his players (ie they play hard for him). I think that Richard Smith and Hoke could use more great communicators on their side of the ball....I think the players will listen to Rhodes. One way to look at it is that this style is pretty much what the Colts do and we have all kinds of trouble handling their defense. This style is lame when you don't play it right or it isn't coached well or if you don't have the right players...or any combination of the above. I think the reality of the situation is that it is easier to find players who can play facing the QB (zone) easier than you can find great press corners like Champ Bailey.
I'm definitely not a fan of the soft "bend but not break" defenses, but if this phrase holds true I could live with it. I understand DC isn't his new position but I'm going to hope his experience and knowledge will get us where we need to be. And that's a top 10 defense.

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One way to look at it is that this style is pretty much what the Colts do and we have all kinds of trouble handling their defense. This style is lame when you don't play it right or it isn't coached well or if you don't have the right players...or any combination of the above. I think the reality of the situation is that it is easier to find players who can play facing the QB (zone) easier than you can find great press corners like Champ Bailey.
I think it is going to be even harder to find CB of this type because of the defenses that are run in college. With so many teams running spread offenses and teams running 2 deep cover and, tampa 2 or zones they are not being taught how to run a man defense. So when a CB gets into the NFL they have to be completely retrained and or you just run a similar defense in order to try and stop offenses.
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IMHO I wouldnt worry too much about schemes and sets. I really think he was mainly brought in for the draft/FA process to repair our broken secondary, a reference, an advisor, and someone who knows how Kubiak thinks.
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I wonder how the defense has been taking to Rhodes during mini-camp and current OTA's. He's been kind of under the radar this whole time. It would be cool to see some interviews from the defense about him; similar to how the offense is talking about Coach Gibbs and his style of coaching.
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Thanks...I must have missed that one.
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I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Rhodes take over as DC next season if Richard Smith's defense doesn't show marked improvement this year.
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