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Old 01-23-2008   #1
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QB:
1. Matt Ryan – Boston College
2. Brian Brohm – Louisville
3. Andre Woodson – Kentucky
4. Joe Flacco – Delware
5. Chad Henne – Michigan
RB:
1. Darren McFadden – Arkansas
2. Jonathan Stewart – Oregon
3. Rashard Mendenhall – Illinois
4. Felix Jones – Arkansas
5. Chris Johnson – ECU
FB:
1. Peyton Hillis – Arkansas
2. Owen Schmitt – West Virginia
3. Jacob Hester – LSU
4. Brandon McAnderson – Kansas
5. Jerome Felton – Furman
WR:
1. Malcolm Kelly – Oklahoma
2. DeSean Jackson – Cal
3. Adarius Bowman – Oklahoma St
4. Limas Sweed – Texas
5. Early Doucet – LSU
TE:
1. Fred Davis – USC
2. Martellus Bennett – Texas A&M
3. Martin Rucker – Missouri
4. Jermichael Finley – Texas
5. John Carlson – Notre Dame
OT:
1. Ryan Clady – Boise St
2. Jake Long – Michigan
3. Jeff Otah – Pitt
4. Chris Williams – Vanderbilt
5. Sam Baker – USC
OG:
1. Roy Schuening – Oregon St
2. Branden Albert – Virginia
3. Drew Radovich – USC
4. Heath Benedict – Newberry
5. Eric Young – Tennessee
C:
1. Steve Justice – Wake Forest
2. Adam Spieker – Missouri
3. Mike Pollak – Arizona St
4. Cody Wallace – Texas A&M
5. Kory Lichtensteiger – Bowling Green
DE:
1. Chris Long – Virginia
2. Vernon Gholston – Ohio St
3. Derrick Harvey – Florida
4. Quentin Groves – Auburn
5. Calais Campbell – Miami
DT:
1. Glenn Dorsey – LSU
2. Sedrick Ellis – USC
3. Kentwan Butler – North Carolina
4. Pat Sims – Auburn
5. Frank Okam – Texas
OLB:
1. Keith Rivers – USC
2. Dan Connor – Penn State
3. Ali Highsmith – LSU
4. Shawn Crable – Michigan
5. Philip Wheeler – Georgia Tech
MLB:
1. Curtis Lofton – Oklahoma
2. Jonathan Goff – Vanderbilt
3. Vince Hall – Virginia Tech
4. Jerod Mayo – Tennessee
5. J Leman – Illinois
CB:
1. Mike Jenkins – USF
2. Antoine Cason – Arizona
3. Leodis McKelvin – Troy
4. Aqib Talib – Kansas
5. Terrell Thomas – USC
FS:
1. Kenny Phillips – Miami
2. Reggie Smith – Oklahoma
3. Jonathan Hefney – Tennessee
4. DaJuan Morgan – N.C. St
5. Thomas DeCoud – Cal
SS:
1. Josh Barrett – Arizona St
2. Craig Steltz – LSU
3. Jamar Adams – Michigan
4. Wesley Woodyard – Kentucky
5. Jamie Silva – Boston College
K:
1. Brandon Coutu – Georgia
2. Art Carmody – Louisville
3. Garrett Hartley – Oklahoma
4. Taylor Mehlhaff – Wisconsin
5. Alexis Serna – Oregon St
P:
1. Durant Brooks – Georgia Tech
2. Ken DeBauche – Wisconsin
3. Mike Dragosavich – North Dakota St
4. Jimmie Kaylor – Colorado St


I'm open to criticism. I just thought that I would post my list to see what some of the other draft guru's on the board thought about it.

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QB:
1. Matt Ryan Boston College
2. Brian Brohm Louisville
3. Andre Woodson Kentucky
4. Joe Flacco Delware
5. Chad Henne Michigan
RB:
1. Darren McFadden Arkansas
2. Jonathan Stewart Oregon
3. Rashard Mendenhall Illinois
4. Felix Jones Arkansas
5. Chris Johnson ECU
FB:
1. Peyton Hillis Arkansas
2. Owen Schmitt West Virginia
3. Jacob Hester LSU
4. Brandon McAnderson Kansas
5. Jerome Felton Furman
WR:
1. Malcolm Kelly Oklahoma
2. DeSean Jackson Cal
3. Adarius Bowman Oklahoma St
4. Limas Sweed Texas
5. Early Doucet LSU
TE:
1. Fred Davis USC
2. Martellus Bennett Texas A&M
3. Martin Rucker Missouri
4. Jermichael Finley Texas
5. John Carlson Notre Dame
OT:
1. Ryan Clady Boise St
2. Jake Long Michigan
3. Jeff Otah Pitt
4. Chris Williams Vanderbilt
5. Sam Baker USC
OG:
1. Roy Schuening Oregon St
2. Branden Albert Virginia
3. Drew Radovich USC
4. Heath Benedict Newberry
5. Eric Young Tennessee
C:
1. Steve Justice Wake Forest
2. Adam Spieker Missouri
3. Mike Pollak Arizona St
4. Cody Wallace Texas A&M
5. Kory Lichtensteiger Bowling Green
DE:
1. Chris Long Virginia
2. Vernon Gholston Ohio St
3. Derrick Harvey Florida
4. Quentin Groves Auburn
5. Calais Campbell Miami
DT:
1. Glenn Dorsey LSU
2. Sedrick Ellis USC
3. Kentwan Butler North Carolina
4. Pat Sims Auburn
5. Frank Okam Texas
OLB:
1. Keith Rivers USC
2. Dan Connor Penn State
3. Ali Highsmith LSU
4. Shawn Crable Michigan
5. Philip Wheeler Georgia Tech
MLB:
1. Curtis Lofton Oklahoma
2. Jonathan Goff Vanderbilt
3. Vince Hall Virginia Tech
4. Jerod Mayo Tennessee
5. J Leman Illinois
CB:
1. Mike Jenkins USF
2. Antoine Cason Arizona
3. Leodis McKelvin Troy
4. Aqib Talib Kansas
5. Terrell Thomas USC
FS:
1. Kenny Phillips Miami
2. Reggie Smith Oklahoma
3. Jonathan Hefney Tennessee
4. DaJuan Morgan N.C. St
5. Thomas DeCoud Cal
SS:
1. Josh Barrett Arizona St
2. Craig Steltz LSU
3. Jamar Adams Michigan
4. Wesley Woodyard Kentucky
5. Jamie Silva Boston College
K:
1. Brandon Coutu Georgia
2. Art Carmody Louisville
3. Garrett Hartley Oklahoma
4. Taylor Mehlhaff Wisconsin
5. Alexis Serna Oregon St
P:
1. Durant Brooks Georgia Tech
2. Ken DeBauche Wisconsin
3. Mike Dragosavich North Dakota St
4. Jimmie Kaylor Colorado St


I'm open to criticism. I just thought that I would post my list to see what some of the other draft guru's on the board thought about it.
Not bad but i think that Jamal Charles should have been in the top 5 running backs and you guys should take Antoine Cason out because he is going back to Arizona for his senior season.
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Not bad but i think that Jamal Charles should have been in the top 5 running backs and you guys should take Antoine Cason out because he is going back to Arizona for his senior season.
I've seen a lot of people writing this. Cason went back for his senior season last year. He's a senior this year...he's in the draft.

It's gotta be tough filling that 5th spot for the RB's this year- Johnson/Charles/Rice...the list goes on!
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Not bad but i think that Jamal Charles should have been in the top 5 running backs and you guys should take Antoine Cason out because he is going back to Arizona for his senior season.
Cason is a senior.

I have Charles at #6 for RB, followed by Rice, Hart, Kevin Smith, & Forte.

My list will most certainly change at least a little bit after the Senior Bowl & Combine.
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I agree with the spot for Martellus. If we had used him more in our offense I have no doubt that he could have easily been #1 and a lock for the first round.

What about Red Bryant, DL? I coulda sworn he was entering the draft.
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Cason is a senior.

I have Charles at #6 for RB, followed by Rice, Hart, Kevin Smith, & Forte.

My list will most certainly change at least a little bit after the Senior Bowl & Combine.

I would be very upset if we drafted Charles over either Rice or Hart. I just don't understand what people see in him, other than being from UT.
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I agree with the spot for Martellus. If we had used him more in our offense I have no doubt that he could have easily been #1 and a lock for the first round.

What about Red Bryant, DL? I coulda sworn he was entering the draft.
I have Bryant #6. Right behind Okam.
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I would be very upset if we drafted Charles over either Rice or Hart. I just don't understand what people see in him, other than being from UT.
Could be his amazing speed.

Or his great vision.

Or his ability to hit the hole fast.

Or the fact that he added 10 pounds before the season & ran with A LOT more power than he did his first two seasons.

Fans love speed in the backfield, and Charles has that covered.
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I like the Hester kid at fullback. He would give us a tweener HB/FB. If we are gonna have 2, might as well have one who can do things in the passing game too. Cook and Leech are awful recievers and ball handlers.
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I like the Hester kid at fullback. He would give us a tweener HB/FB. If we are gonna have 2, might as well have one who can do things in the passing game too. Cook and Leech are awful recievers and ball handlers.
Cook gets such a bad rap for those two fumbles last year. He is a pretty good receiver out of the backfield. Better than Leach at least.

I do like Hester though.
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looks pretty darn good to me

keeping an eye on cb Tracy Porter, needs to get stronger/physical to compete & play with more confidence but he has press cover skills, fluid hips & hand position/placment without drawing flags.
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looks pretty darn good to me

keeping an eye on cb Tracy Porter, needs to get stronger/physical to compete & play with more confidence but he has press cover skills, fluid hips & hand position/placment without drawing flags.
I would also note another Indiana player, WR James Hardy. I feel he is a top 5 WR, and a potential #1 type WR.
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Cook gets such a bad rap for those two fumbles last year. He is a pretty good receiver out of the backfield. Better than Leach at least.

I do like Hester though.
Cook could easily be replaced, not sure on his contract status or cap hit however. I like Hester too, on the negative side to draft him you might have to spend that valueable 3rd pick. Is it just me or does anyone else think the Texans will wait til the 6th/7th rd before taking a tough inside, downhill back? anyone else impressed with the back from USC, Chauncey Washington 5-11 1/2 215-220? looks like a perfect fit for the Texans & they can use the 3rd rd. pick on a corner to develop like DeJuan Tribble who looks like he will slip to the 3rd rd.
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Could be his amazing speed.

Or his great vision.

Or his ability to hit the hole fast.

Or the fact that he added 10 pounds before the season & ran with A LOT more power than he did his first two seasons.

Fans love speed in the backfield, and Charles has that covered.
Could just be that fumbles...alot.

Does not run between the tackles that well...still. Better for sure, but still not great.

Isn't the best at picking up the blitz

Charles will get his shot and might just make a lot out of it; but to act ;ike he is without faults is a bit much. Add to that, that this is an absolutly stufffed draft class at RB.

Charles may very well jump in the rankings if he throws down a monster 40 time at the combine, but till then he will not get the attention you think he deserves.
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I admit I am one of the few people who thinks Limas Sweed is overrated, I have not seen anything that would put him in the top 5 WR this year. also I think you have TE John Carlson to low. Yes, he did not do much this past year but he really did not have anyone throwing to him and he spent a lot of time having to block because of poor oline play. I think he the #1 or #2 TE in the draft. Having a little biased because of my feelings for ND. I am not sure whoI would put at #1 Rucker or Carlson, I loved watching Rucker in the bowl game he was very impressive.
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Could just be that fumbles...alot.

Does not run between the tackles that well...still. Better for sure, but still not great.

Isn't the best at picking up the blitz

Charles will get his shot and might just make a lot out of it; but to act ;ike he is without faults is a bit much. Add to that, that this is an absolutly stufffed draft class at RB.

Charles may very well jump in the rankings if he throws down a monster 40 time at the combine, but till then he will not get the attention you think he deserves.
If you read other threads then you would see that I have mentioned some faults that I think Charles has.

I admit that Charles is one of my favorite prospects this year, but I have him going in the second round, hardly a reach, IMO.
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looks pretty darn good to me

keeping an eye on cb Tracy Porter, needs to get stronger/physical to compete & play with more confidence but he has press cover skills, fluid hips & hand position/placment without drawing flags.
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I would also note another Indiana player, WR James Hardy. I feel he is a top 5 WR, and a potential #1 type WR.
I have Porter as the #12 CB right now. There's just too many this year to have an accurate list before the Senior Bowl.

I have Hardy #7 between Devin Thomas & Manningham.
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I admit I am one of the few people who thinks Limas Sweed is overrated, I have not seen anything that would put him in the top 5 WR this year. also I think you have TE John Carlson to low. Yes, he did not do much this past year but he really did not have anyone throwing to him and he spent a lot of time having to block because of poor oline play. I think he the #1 or #2 TE in the draft. Having a little biased because of my feelings for ND. I am not sure whoI would put at #1 Rucker or Carlson, I loved watching Rucker in the bowl game he was very impressive.
I'm a hardcore UT fan and I'm still not sold on him. I had Early Doucet & Devin Thomas ranked above him but I changed it. Sweed's 40 time will decide where he will go.

TE is gonna be a tough call this year. I feel like Carlson is better than Finley (cuz he cant block for anything), but I think that Finley's incredible athleticism will get him drafted first. I could be wrong.
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I admit I am one of the few people who thinks Limas Sweed is overrated, I have not seen anything that would put him in the top 5 WR this year. also I think you have TE John Carlson to low. Yes, he did not do much this past year but he really did not have anyone throwing to him and he spent a lot of time having to block because of poor oline play. I think he the #1 or #2 TE in the draft. Having a little biased because of my feelings for ND. I am not sure whoI would put at #1 Rucker or Carlson, I loved watching Rucker in the bowl game he was very impressive.
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Please step out from behind your agenda, so we can see who we're talking to...

kinda J/K, but it IS funny, not to mention predictable from you...

BTW, I don't know enough to have an opinion on Carlson, and don't necessarily disagree with you about Sweed, so take my comments for what they're worth...
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I have Porter as the #12 CB right now. There's just too many this year to have an accurate list before the Senior Bowl.

I have Hardy #7 between Devin Thomas & Manningham.
where do you have Lavelle Hawkins, Cal? really thought it was a mistake for him to come out early, but he looks ready. a natural #2 WR that seperates from defenders, excellent hands who catches everything & ability to stretch the field.
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