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Old 01-21-2008   #1
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I'm a little frustrated with the official Senior Bowl site not having the complete roster list posted, but here is a list that while not offical, is probably pretty complete.

North team practice today at 4:00 on NFLN.

Arkansas OL Robert Felton, Marcus Harrison and FB Peyton Hillis
Arizona State OL Mike Pollak
Arizona State OL Mike Pollak
Alabama WR D.J. Hall
Alabama DB Simeon Castille
Alabama DL Wallace Gilberry
Auburn DB Patrick Lee
Auburn DE Quentin Groves
Boston College OT Gosder Cherilus
Boston College DB DeJuan Tribble
Boston College QB Matt Ryan
California WR Lavelle Hawkins
California RB Justin Forsett
California DB Thomas DeCoud
Colorado CB Terrence Wheatley
Colorado LB Jordon Dizon
Delaware QB Joe Flacco
East Carolina RB Chris Johnson
Florida State DE Andre Fluellen
Florida State deep snapper Garrison Sanborn
Georgia Tech RB Tashard Choice
Georgia Kicker Brandon Coutu
Georgia Tech LB Philip Wheeler
Georgia Tech DE Darrell Robertson
Georgia Tech P Durant Brooks
Hawaii QB Colt Brennan
Houston WR Donnie Avery
Indiana Deep Snapper Tim Bugg
Indiana CD Tracy Porter
Iowa CB Charles Godfrey
Kansas State WR Jordy Nelson
Kentucky QB Andre Woodson
Kentucky LB Wesley Woodyard
Kentucky TE Jacob Tamme
Kentucky RB Rafael Little
Kentucky WR Keenan Burton
Louisville QB Brian Brohm
LSU WR Early Doucet
LSU FB Jacob Hester
LSU LB Ali Highsmith
LSU DB Craig Steltz
LSU CB Chevis Jackson
Maryland DT Dre Moore
Miami LB Tavares Gooden
Mississippi State DE Titus Brown
Missouri TE Martin Rucker
Michigan QB Chad Henne
Michigan LB Shawn Crable
Michigan S Jamar Adams
Michigan State TE Kellen Davis
North Carolina DT Kentwan Balmer
North Carolina State DT DeMario Pressley
Nebraska OL Carl Nicks
Notre Dames' DB Tom Zbikowski, Trevor Laws, TE John Carlson and OL John Sullivan
New Mexico WR Marcus A. Smith
Ohio State OT Kirk Barton
Oregon State PK Alexis Serna
Oregon State OL Roy Schuening
Oklahoma defensive back D.J. Wolfe
Oklahoma State WR Adarius Bowman and RB Dantrell Savage
Purdue DE Cliff Avril
Purdue WR Dorien Bryant
Penn State LB Dan Connor
Southern California DT Sedrick Ellis
Southern California RB Chauncey Washington
Southern California OL Sam Baker
Southern California QB John David Booty
Southern California TE Fred Davis
Southern California LB Keith Rivers
Southern California DL Lawrence Jackson
Southern California OL Drew Radovich
South Florida LB Ben Moffitt
South Florida CB Mike Jenkins
Tennessee Brad Cottam
Troy DB Leodis McKelvin
Texas A&M DL Red Bryant
Texas S Marcus Griffin and Limas Sweed
Texas A&M C Cody Wallace
Tulane RB Matt Forte
Vanderbilt OT Chris Williams
Virginia Tech LB Xavier Adibi, DE Chris Ellis and receiver/returner Eddie Royal
Wake Forest DL Jeremy Thompson
Wake Forest C Steve Justice
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lots of big names at QB.

will obviously keep a close eye on Mike Jenkins.
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Like what I saw out of Ben Moffit at the level he played at. 240 pound guy who can run....very interesting. Not a position of critacal need for the Texans. Although it'd be nice to find a Sam who could turn and run with RB's and TEs.

Got a Feeling he will be targeted by new england in the second day. Ezra Butler will go to a 3-4 team also.

Thought Tommy Blake looked horrific sturaday night. He's either twenty pounds too heavy or twenty pounds too light. The guy has to be hurt to move the way he moved at the Shriner's game. I dunno. He's a shell to what he was two years ago.
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here is a link to the Senior Bowl site - http://www.seniorbowl.com/2008/
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correction, first practice is at 3:00 CST and not 4:00.
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Some weights and heights from the Senior Bowl
http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlhtswts.html
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How are players from Southern Cal on the North team?
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I had no clue Forsett was a Senior. I didn't get to see him a lot but the few times I have been impressed. I have gotten to See Dantrell Savage play and He'd be a good value later in the draft.

I think we get lost in the 40 times and the perenial guy who has game breaking speed to those guys who have good speed, vision and all around game. Looks like a great year to address a few spots we're really lacking at in LT and a solid RB.
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NFLNet had some coverage of todays limited practice, but they are supposed to offer more extensive the rest of the week.
Anyway, in the Texans quest for an OLT we got to see some one-on-ones
today between OLineman & DLineman and got a fast look-see at Cosder Cherilus from Boston U. He was impressive: mean dude who moved well & pancaked his opponent on one play and seemed to enjoy it. Excellent size at 6'6.5" with 35 plus arm length. The NFLNet guys seemed to think he might be more of a RT prospect where he played 2 years. But he did play LT this past year.
Looking forward to seeing Baker from USC & Williams from Vandy later this week.
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How are players from Southern Cal on the North team?
they represented well. lets see most impressive was Sedrick Ellis, interior bull rushing specialist in the Warren Sapp mold. Keith Rivers looked very athletic. did not get to see Baker in one on ones but he was dressed & there. Fred Davis was with the receivers but didnt see him in action either. Booty was very accurate in the receiver drills. really impressed with cb Terrell Thomas big, long arms, fluid my be a first rd. surprise pick.
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Booty was very accurate in the receiver drills.
I know my mind is in the gutter here but that just doesn't sound right.

Glad to see Forsett in the Senior Bowl, I seen him in one game this year and was impressed. Look forward to seeing when and who drafts him.
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NFLNet had some coverage of todays limited practice, but they are supposed to offer more extensive the rest of the week.
Anyway, in the Texans quest for an OLT we got to see some one-on-ones
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Looking forward to seeing Baker from USC & Williams from Vandy later this week.
with a good week of practice Gosder Cherilus will make himself some money. looked the part of a big nasty. has arm length needed to play OT along with attitude. valued highly because of versatility, has played both RT & LT with size & strength to play guard inside.
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with a good week of practice Gosder Cherilus will make himself some money. looked the part of a big nasty. has arm length needed to play OT along with attitude. valued highly because of versatility, has played both RT & LT with size & strength to play guard inside.
That's what I was reading as well. Everyone was amazed at his size, arm length, and hand size. I've always read he's projected at RT in the nfl. played rt untill this last season when he switched to LT...didn't have the best year though- maybe its just new to him...or maybe he's just not a LT. He's definitely got the size I would think, and runs a 5.08-5.14 40-yard dash. I'm typically one to throw an OL's 40 right out the window b/c it's really not that great of a measure imo..at least we know he's fast.

I will really want to see/read/hear how he does playing left tackle and how his feet are, esp. in the other cone drills they run that will really measure his movement side to side. will he be able to get to the 2nd level and block as well? If Gibbs can convert TE's to play LT then I'd give him a shot at Cherilous if he thinks he could be our answer.
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Thought Tommy Blake looked horrific sturaday night. He's either twenty pounds too heavy or twenty pounds too light. The guy has to be hurt to move the way he moved at the Shriner's game. I dunno. He's a shell to what he was two years ago.

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Then Blake left the TCU team in fall camp, and he left again four games into the season, both times taking medical leaves of absence that had nothing to do with injuries, substance abuse or performance enhancers.

Blake is under the care of doctors as he tries to regain the form that made him a 2007 preseason All-American. In a Sporting News exclusive, Blake spoke Wednesday night about his state of mind, his struggles to perform well on the field and the skepticism he has heard about his desire to play football.
Reading the article and guessing (that is dangerous), I would say Tommy Blake had/has clinical depression, or a bipolar disorder. The weight gain, the attitude all point to side effects of the drugs used to treat these conditions.

I hope he gets what ever is effecting him under control, and is able to get his life back. Football can wait for, he needs to get healthy. Also not sure to many NFL teams can handle him with the sensitivity that TCU has. They have protected him. In the pros the media can be quite tough in some places.

Today, Tommy Blake is a risk of not being able to play. A team with depth, might want to take a risk. Us we may need to take a prospect with less risk.
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That's what I was reading as well. Everyone was amazed at his size, arm length, and hand size. I've always read he's projected at RT in the nfl. played rt untill this last season when he switched to LT...didn't have the best year though- maybe its just new to him...or maybe he's just not a LT. He's definitely got the size I would think, and runs a 5.08-5.14 40-yard dash. I'm typically one to throw an OL's 40 right out the window b/c it's really not that great of a measure imo..at least we know he's fast.

I will really want to see/read/hear how he does playing left tackle and how his feet are, esp. in the other cone drills they run that will really measure his movement side to side. will he be able to get to the 2nd level and block as well? If Gibbs can convert TE's to play LT then I'd give him a shot at Cherilous if he thinks he could be our answer.
One of the trouble we will have with Gibbs and his OL, is that no one else will be talking about the guys he takes. So the more that Kiper and Mike Mayock like a guy for conventional wisdom at the OL position, the less likely he is to be a Gibbs guy.

Now I am not saying who Gibbs is looking at, I have no clue, but I will say it will most likely shock us, and confuse us. I remember being confused by Kubiak taking Spencer before Winston and saying he was their LT. He did not meet any of the Kubiak "criteria", so at that point I decided to just let them decide on the who's, and I would just be a fan and cheer.
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One of the trouble we will have with Gibbs and his OL, is that no one else will be talking about the guys he takes. So the more that Kiper and Mike Mayock like a guy for conventional wisdom at the OL position, the less likely he is to be a Gibbs guy.
True. But he's looking at a lot of relatively small, but quick OLineman that most of the other teams aren't interested in who are still available in the second day of the Draft. A big advantage in the price of OLinemen talent when using ZB.
Got a look at Sam Baker in this mornings workout and he wasn't as impressive
as Cherolus was yesterday. The NFLNet guy Mayock questions whether he's suited to play OT in the NFL and thinks he may have to move inside.
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True. But he's looking at a lot of relatively small, but quick OLineman that most of the other teams aren't interested in who are still available in the second day of the Draft. A big advantage in the price of OLinemen talent when using ZB.
Got a look at Sam Baker in this mornings workout and he wasn't as impressive
as Cherolus was yesterday. The NFLNet guy Mayock questions whether he's suited to play OT in the NFL and thinks he may have to move inside.
Baker has now moved down, IMO to the 2nd rd. he's proven to have LT skills but in the NFL its gonna have to be a zone blocking system, like Gibbs uses. very scarey stuff indeed, if the Texans traded down with Baker still on the board.
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I'm interested in seeing how Forte does this afternoon. From what I've heard, he has been impressing people so far.
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with a good week of practice Gosder Cherilus will make himself some money. looked the part of a big nasty. has arm length needed to play OT along with attitude. valued highly because of versatility, has played both RT & LT with size & strength to play guard inside.
Cherilus has looked good the last couple of days, but he has some problem with the speedy guys.

Joe Flacco & D. Savage also look good
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Cherilus has looked good the last couple of days, but he has some problem with the speedy guys.

Joe Flacco & D. Savage also look good
looks to me like if he engages the speed guys sooner with those long arms & big hands he'll learn to control the edge or inside rip. will improve just as much as his coaching gets better. he is a tremendous prospect, remember alot of people thought similar of Marcus McNeill (Chargers LT). Cherilus has longer reach, bigger hands & displays a nasty attitude.
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