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Old 01-17-2008   #1
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Record: 8-8
Biggest needs: CB, G, WR, S, OT
Projected pick: Kenny Phillips*, S, Miami
The Texans boast arguably the best young defensive line in the NFL thanks to former first-round picks DE Mario Williams (2006) and DT Amobi Okoye (2007), and now they need a ball hawk in the secondary who can capitalize when that line forces bad throws from opposing quarterbacks. Phillips could be the right man for the job. He needs good coaching to improve his consistency, but there isn't a defensive back in this year's class who can stack up with Phillips' overall blend of natural physical tools.
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I like Kenny Phillips but I would much rather have Aqib Talib in the Secondary
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I despise any mock draft that supplants Malcolm Jenkins with Mike Jenkins just because of need (or last name?) clearly Mike is not Malcolm, he lacks the same speed, tackling ability & big play potential. weak just weak guys
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I like Kenny Phillips but I would much rather have Aqib Talib in the Secondary
Aqib is too slow and isn't worth a 1st rounder IMO after he run slow times at the combine he will fall to the 2nd round.
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talib was already gone in this mock @ 16
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I like how McShay has identified WR as one of the Texans Biggest Needs, when there are bigger needs like LB or RB. When an "analyst" can't even identify a team's biggest needs then there is no further reason to listen to their "analysis".
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I like how McShay has identified WR as one of the Texans Biggest Needs, when there are bigger needs like LB or RB. When an "analyst" can't even identify a team's biggest needs then there is no further reason to listen to their "analysis".
Yeah, how they do not have Center is not surprising, it is expected. None of these guys know our team, except for Mike Mayock when it comes to the draft.
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Aqib is too slow and isn't worth a 1st rounder IMO after he run slow times at the combine he will fall to the 2nd round.
I think they are looking at Talib as more of a free safety in the draft than a corner.
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im tellin ya its going to be Limas Sweed at #18
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im tellin ya its going to be Limas Sweed at #18
Who do the Texans trade down with?
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Kenny Phillips would be a sweet pick for the Texans. Limas Sweed better not be chosen by the Texans. As for WR for the Texans, Todd calls WR a need area and it is if we dont sign Andre Davis. Walter is good but Jones is far from being ready to be our #3. If we resign Davis, WR is not needed but if someone else signs him, we gotta get another WR through the draft or FA to compliment AJ and Walter....Jones just seems soft since he took that big hit early in teh 07 season.
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im tellin ya its going to be Limas Sweed at #18
Geez. I hope not.

That's all we need. A one-dimensional WR in the 1st round.
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no I dont realy like Sweed but I do think the Texans will draft some sort of offensive weapon. RB or WR.
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Kenny Phillips would be a sweet pick for the Texans. Limas Sweed better not be chosen by the Texans. As for WR for the Texans, Todd calls WR a need area and it is if we dont sign Andre Davis. Walter is good but Jones is far from being ready to be our #3. If we resign Davis, WR is not needed but if someone else signs him, we gotta get another WR through the draft or FA to compliment AJ and Walter....Jones just seems soft since he took that big hit early in teh 07 season.
EVen if Davis doesnt resign with us, WR isnt as big of a need as OLB, CB, S, OT, C, G, DT, DE, ect... You can get quality depth in FA for average cash or in the later rounds in FA.
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I despise any mock draft that supplants Malcolm Jenkins with Mike Jenkins just because of need (or last name?) clearly Mike is not Malcolm, he lacks the same speed, tackling ability & big play potential. weak just weak guys
I think all of this is easily arguable. I'd chose Mike over Malcolm.

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I think all of this is easily arguable. I'd chose Mike over Malcolm.
everything is arguable if for no other reason the sake of argument
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everything is arguable if for no other reason the sake of argument
I see alot of big play potential in this guy. Here are just a few videos. http://youtube.com/watch?v=uzC4aoMUJm4. http://youtube.com/watch?v=942miu-cRY0. Here is another that shows his speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=82rIDkFBVhU&feature=related

When he gets the ball in his hands, I see Cromartie and Ed Reed type of big play ability. He is not just a danger of picking you off but he has a nack for getting into the endzone. He has excellent speed and size, I think alot of people are going to be impressed at the combine.

He made so many plays this year and last he probably won't even be available for us at 18.

This is a good interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvs6pZtcW2w&NR=1.
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Jenkins is another great CB but I see him gone int he first 10 picks
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If it's not banging one of four holes...it's a busted pick.


Sweed is going to have a tremendous learning curve....much like Jabar Gafney.

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