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Old 01-11-2008   #1
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This isn't a hate thread, but there's probably one or two players you don't want to see the Texans draft. Let it be known here and your reason why....

Sam Baker LT USC
Although he's got superb technique and pass blocking, he's average at run blocking. My biggest concern with the guy is that he's small for his position and at times has been over powered by a bigger DT or DE. He's the next D'Brickashaw Ferguson trap and should be avoided. Undersized "athletic" tackles are too "hit or miss" for me and more often than not you'll get the latter. I have doubts that he can protect Schaub especially with the other D-lines in the AFC South. I'm not saying he's a bad tackle, but he'll get overpowered in our division.

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ok, im garunteed to take some heat for this one along with my grammer and spelling as always...... but i dont want any part of darren mcfaden, i believe both mendenhall and ray rice are better NFL backs, and niether of them have character issues like mcfaden does, i just dont want him, i dont care if we had pick 1, 2 ,3 ,4 etc..... i dont want this man on our team..... im not closed to being proven wrong, but as of now i stand by it......
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Default Re: The "please don't draft this guy" thread...

I saw a guy semi-hate on Ray Rice the other day saying he isn't fast enough for his size. The guy runs a 4.46 and averaged at the worst runs a low 4.5. I'm not sure what MJD runs but I don't think at this time a guy like Rice should be overlooked.
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I saw a guy semi-hate on Ray Rice the other day saying he isn't fast enough for his size. The guy runs a 4.46 and averaged at the worst runs a low 4.5. I'm not sure what MJD runs but I don't think at this time a guy like Rice should be overlooked.
Maurice Jones Drew ran a 4.39.
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Default Re: The "please don't draft this guy" thread...

I totally understand the Jones-Drew/Ray Rice comparisons but I don't think they are one in the same.

Jones-Drew is a lightening fast bowling ball that doesn't go down. Ray Rice is a quick 220lb RB that is hard to bring down playing in a 202lb body. I don't think Rice will be the BPA at #18 but he is a guy I'd like to see on the texans.
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Maurice Jones Drew ran a 4.39.
I figured he was faster but I still didn't think labeling Rice "slow" was a fair assessment.

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I totally understand the Jones-Drew/Ray Rice comparisons but I don't think they are one in the same.

Jones-Drew is a lightening fast bowling ball that doesn't go down. Ray Rice is a quick 220lb RB that is hard to bring down playing in a 202lb body. I don't think Rice will be the BPA at #18 but he is a guy I'd like to see on the texans.
I actually didn't mean to compare their styles or whatever or to say we should take him....just every year, despite what has happened, scouts or sportscasters start labeling guys and explain how they won't be productive because of their size, speed, etc. I can't stand it. I'm all about..is a guy a player?I mean Emmitt was the #17 pick because of size and speed.
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Rice is smaller, slower, weaker, and less versitile than this board's whipping boy Reggie Bush, for what that's worth.

Don't see the MJD comparrison either. He was the fastest RB prospect in the 2006 Draft, and is a load to bring down.
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Default Re: The "please don't draft this guy" thread...

Barring a "Brady Quinn" scenerio, I doubt McFadden would fall into our laps at 18. Would be nice though.
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This isn't a hate thread, but there's probably one or two players you don't want to see the Texans draft. Let it be known here and your reason why....

Sam Baker LT USCAlthough he's got superb technique and pass blocking, he's average at run blocking. My biggest concern with the guy is that he's small for his position and at times has been over powered by a bigger DT or DE. He's the next D'Brickashaw Ferguson trap and should be avoided. Undersized "athletic" tackles are too "hit or miss" for me and more often than not you'll get the latter. I have doubts that he can protect Schaub especially with the other D-lines in the AFC South. I'm not saying he's a bad tackle, but he'll get overpowered in our division.

Anyone you want us to avoid?
Hate to say this, but this is almost exactly the kind of LT Gibbs will be looking for. I just don't know if he will be looking for them in the 1st round. Anyway, I'm afraid the "undersized athletic tackle" is a perfect fit for a Denver style ZB scheme, and Baker, if he does well at the Combine, may be in Gibbs' crosshairs. JMHO!
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I know he doesn't come out till next year, but don't draft Tebow.
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For this year though, I'll stay away from DeSean Jackson. He didn't dominate in college and I don't really see him as a #1 receiver.
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pretty much everyone mentioned in this thread would help out the Texans a lot.
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Hate to say this, but this is almost exactly the kind of LT Gibbs will be looking for. I just don't know if he will be looking for them in the 1st round. Anyway, I'm afraid the "undersized athletic tackle" is a perfect fit for a Denver style ZB scheme, and Baker, if he does well at the Combine, may be in Gibbs' crosshairs. JMHO!
I was rewatching the 1st half of the Rose Bowl last night and I swear Baker played with what appeared to be no heart. He seems disinterested in the run game, and the further USC got ahead the more he seemed to be going through the motions. He has been accused of playing soft in the past and Gibbs likes guys that play with a chip on their shoulder, well that is not the current version of Baker.
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nahhhh, but mine..... yes
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btw Baker WILL be a guard in the NFL.
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then we should be able to trade down & still draft him then lets see what Mr. Gibbs says about that
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I saw a guy semi-hate on Ray Rice the other day saying he isn't fast enough for his size. The guy runs a 4.46 and averaged at the worst runs a low 4.5. I'm not sure what MJD runs but I don't think at this time a guy like Rice should be overlooked.
I'd be a lot happier with him in the third than I would in the first @ 18. And I love the guy....

The Demps Kid, UTEP. OK I mised on Ugoh. I admit it. But I wasn't the only one. He looked like cluster copulation last year at the senior bowl. I've watch Demps and Kenny Phillips a couple of times now. Just me but I'm not impresed with either guy. I'd just as soon take a big corner latter and coach the lad up.
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And that is precisely, excatly what everyone said about Charles Spencer. I think thier priority even now with the new hire is taking guys who are athletic enough to cover several slots. Baker fits.
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This isn't a hate thread, but there's probably one or two players you don't want to see the Texans draft. Let it be known here and your reason why....

Sam Baker LT USC
Although he's got superb technique and pass blocking, he's average at run blocking. My biggest concern with the guy is that he's small for his position and at times has been over powered by a bigger DT or DE. He's the next D'Brickashaw Ferguson trap and should be avoided. Undersized "athletic" tackles are too "hit or miss" for me and more often than not you'll get the latter. I have doubts that he can protect Schaub especially with the other D-lines in the AFC South. I'm not saying he's a bad tackle, but he'll get overpowered in our division.

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