Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-06-2008   #1
Wolf
100% Texan
 
Wolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kerrville
Age: 44
Posts: 37,213
Rep Power: 100807 Wolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respected
Default how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Watching the game today, Titans have a good defense(worn down now by the chargers) and while I have watched them play over the season. makes me wonder how some would compare the defensive players and scheme

Besides Bullock,Vandenbosch,haynesworth and Michael Griffin .. lots of player's names don't stand out with me that are playing on that team



I am basically wondering if some feel we are about as talented defensively as they are or not. or do some feel they scheme better than us
Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #2
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
 
mexican_texan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 24
Posts: 14,188
Rep Power: 1699 mexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedmexican_texan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

A good DT can improve any defense.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny View Post
in the hood, they calls it pimpin'.
mexican_texan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #3
Wolf
100% Texan
 
Wolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kerrville
Age: 44
Posts: 37,213
Rep Power: 100807 Wolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mexican_texan View Post
A good DT can improve any defense.
true, so hopefully Okoye can take a step like Mario did

watching them play without pacman (on the field one, not off the field). makes for good matchups come next season if he keeps out of trouble
Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #4
wicked_wayz
all blacks
 
wicked_wayz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: auckland, new zealand
Age: 30
Posts: 536
Rep Power: 9 wicked_wayz is ridin' the pine
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

the titans have an awesome defense....as for the offense, wel thats a different story
__________________
rugby league - school of hard knocks
wicked_wayz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #5
steelbtexan
Hall of Fame
 
steelbtexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 51
Posts: 11,970
Rep Power: 84495 steelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

comparatively speaking we stink
steelbtexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #6
Wolf
100% Texan
 
Wolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kerrville
Age: 44
Posts: 37,213
Rep Power: 100807 Wolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by steelbtexan View Post
comparatively speaking we stink
talent wise or scheme wise?

granted Okoye-williams haven't reached what impact haynesworth and vandenbosch has on the field.

hard to compare Bullock to Ryans (ILB to OLB)

secondary even with pacman out ...(d-rob for us) ..seems like they play as a group(yes we had to revamp the whole secondary due to injuries) alot better than we do.
Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #7
DiehardChris
You betcha!
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Back in Houston
Posts: 3,808
Rep Power: 1068 DiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respectedDiehardChris is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

We're not nearly in their class... not because of the talent level, but because they have a nasty, nasty attitude on D and our defense is as soft as a roll of Charmin.

However, we're not THAT far off talent-wise, and the right free-agent or new tactics by coaches can certainly turn the tide of our defensive attitude... such as - if our secondary is better next year, we can blitz more, which will give us a much more aggressive mindset.
__________________

www.HoustonDiehards.com
DiehardChris is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 01-06-2008   #8
TEXANRED
Texan-American
 
TEXANRED's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Age: 38
Posts: 7,315
Rep Power: 54908 TEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Comparing our Defense to the Titan Defense is like comparing Coke Classic to New Coke.

Not even in the same realm of conversation.
__________________
I am in an abusive relationship with life and I am to cowardly to leave it. - Homer Simpson.

TEXANRED is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #9
Wolf
100% Texan
 
Wolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kerrville
Age: 44
Posts: 37,213
Rep Power: 100807 Wolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiehardChris View Post
We're not nearly in their class... not because of the talent level, but because they have a nasty, nasty attitude on D and our defense is as soft as a roll of Charmin.

However, we're not THAT far off talent-wise, and the right free-agent or new tactics by coaches can certainly turn the tide of our defensive attitude... such as - if our secondary is better next year, we can blitz more, which will give us a much more aggressive mindset.
that is what I am wondering. we never have had the nastiness(but clean) as a group on defense. I just wonder if it is us just getting nice guys or if it is a reflection of what our guys are taught
Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #10
Leahmic223
Hall of Fame
 
Leahmic223's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,076
Rep Power: 22 Leahmic223 is a Hall of FamerLeahmic223 is a Hall of FamerLeahmic223 is a Hall of FamerLeahmic223 is a Hall of FamerLeahmic223 is a Hall of FamerLeahmic223 is a Hall of FamerLeahmic223 is a Hall of FamerLeahmic223 is a Hall of FamerLeahmic223 is a Hall of FamerLeahmic223 is a Hall of Famer
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

I would never admit the Titans have a better anything than us, so all I will say is that our Offense looks better than theirs.

Our defense is just inconsistent. I think we have a lot of solid pieces and sometimes that one piece is all you need to go from below-average to very good...and i'm talking about a guy in the secondary that can make plays.
Leahmic223 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #11
TEXANRED
Texan-American
 
TEXANRED's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Age: 38
Posts: 7,315
Rep Power: 54908 TEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
that is what I am wondering. we never have had the nastiness(but clean) as a group on defense. I just wonder if it is us just getting nice guys or if it is a reflection of what our guys are taught
We had nasty for one year, Gary Walker. Then his toe started to hurt.

Vic Fangio was a terrible Defensive coordinator, but Richard Smith is worse. We could have Warren Sapp in his prime and still look like soft serve ice cream.

I don't care how dumb it sounds, we need Jerry Glanville running our defense.
__________________
I am in an abusive relationship with life and I am to cowardly to leave it. - Homer Simpson.

TEXANRED is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #12
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
 
TheRealJoker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Conroe
Age: 27
Posts: 3,650
Rep Power: 10496 TheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respectedTheRealJoker is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to TheRealJoker
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Scheme and mentality is what makes the Titans defense so much better than our's.
__________________
What did the city of Houston do to anger the football gods?
TheRealJoker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #13
ObsiWan
Site Contributor
 
ObsiWan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: League City, Tx
Age: 62
Posts: 13,945
Rep Power: 213938 ObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealJoker View Post
Scheme and mentality is what makes the Titans defense so much better than our's.
That pretty much sums it up.
Especially the mentality part.
Vanden Bosch is a maniac and Haynesworth is borderline psycho. Bullock is a natural leader. But I think Ryans brings that to the table too.

While we have good athletes; bur overall, their guys seem to play nastier than our guys do. Is that the scheme, the coaches, or something semi-psycho in the players themselves? Maybe a little of each. Hard to say.
ObsiWan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #14
adam
Guero
 
adam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Spring
Posts: 715
Rep Power: 12 adam could be on the next Madden coveradam could be on the next Madden coveradam could be on the next Madden coveradam could be on the next Madden coveradam could be on the next Madden coveradam could be on the next Madden cover
Send a message via AIM to adam Send a message via MSN to adam Send a message via Yahoo to adam
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

There's everything that ours should be. Solid with a devastating defensive line.
__________________

Sig by False Start on #69
adam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #15
steelbtexan
Hall of Fame
 
steelbtexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 51
Posts: 11,970
Rep Power: 84495 steelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiehardChris View Post
We're not nearly in their class... not because of the talent level, but because they have a nasty, nasty attitude on D and our defense is as soft as a roll of Charmin.

However, we're not THAT far off talent-wise, and the right free-agent or new tactics by coaches can certainly turn the tide of our defensive attitude... such as - if our secondary is better next year, we can blitz more, which will give us a much more aggressive mindset.
They have more talent in the d-line, lb's & secondary. They also have a better scheme & attitude.
steelbtexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #16
steelbtexan
Hall of Fame
 
steelbtexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 51
Posts: 11,970
Rep Power: 84495 steelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealJoker View Post
Scheme and mentality is what makes the Titans defense so much better than our's.
You forgot they also have more talent.
steelbtexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #17
Wolf
100% Texan
 
Wolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kerrville
Age: 44
Posts: 37,213
Rep Power: 100807 Wolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respectedWolf is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

nfl.com is not updated but ...

http://www.nfl.com/teams/tennesseeti...chart?team=TEN

looking at Tennessee's defense on depth chart

and ours
http://www.nfl.com/teams/depthchart?team=HOU
Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #18
dtran04
Hall of Fame
 
dtran04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Age: 29
Posts: 1,585
Rep Power: 2410 dtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respecteddtran04 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

Their D-Line is one of the best. Back end could use some help.
dtran04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #19
TEXANRED
Texan-American
 
TEXANRED's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Age: 38
Posts: 7,315
Rep Power: 54908 TEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respectedTEXANRED is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

The Texans Ranked 30th. We ranked 31st last year.
__________________
I am in an abusive relationship with life and I am to cowardly to leave it. - Homer Simpson.

TEXANRED is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2008   #20
toronto
Hall of Fame
 
toronto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto
Age: 42
Posts: 6,780
Rep Power: 79638 toronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respectedtoronto is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: how would you compare the Titans Defense to the Texan Defense?

It was said already, but it bears repeating...the Titans as a whole are a nasty defense - ask the Chargers right now how they feel physically after two games with them. LT got just smashed all game by a dominant d-line that was betrayed by a terrible offense void of any gamebreakers at all.

Before anyone thinks the Titans are going to get worse on defense, remember they have 40M in cap space to re-sign or franchise Fat Al plus get Pacman back, if they can stand the scent of his BS.

This is one freaking tough division for the forseeable future...
__________________
When I lost you honey sometimes, I think I lost my guts too....

Follow me @blakegk on twitter...the entertainment never stops...
toronto is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger