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Old 01-04-2008   #21
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How much are yall expecting Samual to ask for? I mean 30 million in cap space is not exactly "poor".

I mean.. if we really wanted him.. we could sign him to a big contract and eat a large chunk of it this year.

And that 30 million under the cap..I think that is BEFORE they raise it.. so we will probably be closer to 40+ under the cap.
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How much are yall expecting Samual to ask for? I mean 30 million in cap space is not exactly "poor".

I mean.. if we really wanted him.. we could sign him to a big contract and eat a large chunk of it this year.

And that 30 million under the cap..I think that is BEFORE they raise it.. so we will probably be closer to 40+ under the cap.
But at this point, we're still sitting at about 22nd in the league in terms of cap space (iirc). So, yeah, we've got some room, but there are a lot of teams out there with more cap space that might be more attractive to him for one reason or another.
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Our projected cap space isn't in the top 10; link:

Team
Signed Players 2008 cap room

1. Tennessee
39 $40.85 million
2. San Diego
44 $33.03 million
3. Jacksonville
43 $32.69 million
4. Buffalo
49 $32.05 million
5. New Orleans
39 $31.69 million
6. Cincinnati
48 $31.45 million
7. San Francisco
48 $30.91 million
8. Cleveland
42 $30.31 million
9. Arizona 3
4 $30.27 million
10.N.Y. Jets
45 $27.72 million
11.Oakland
40 $25.98 million
12.Tampa Bay
48 $25.90 million
13.Miami
48 $25.56 million
14.N.Y. Giants
49 $24.47 million
15.Detroit
42 $23.50 million
16.Houston
43 $22.91 million

17.Dallas
40 $20.61 million
18.Kansas City
44 $20.27 million
19.Chicago
52 $19.80 million
20.Pittsburgh
43 $18.61 million
21.Green Bay
48 $18.37 million
22.Philadelphia
49 $17.17 million
23.Denver
49 $16.77 million
24.Minnesota
49 $14.88 million
25.New England
41 $10.93 million
26.St. Louis
45 $9.61 million
27.Seattle
44 $9.55 million
28.Indianapolis
48 $8.49 million
29.Carolina
35 $6.05 million
30.Atlanta
52 $5.79 million*
31.Baltimore
42 $5.00 million
32.Washington
45 -$20.72 million

* Not including unspecified potential rebate from contested return of Michael Vick's pro-rated signing bonus.
Plus we will probably pick up an option on Mario's contract so that'll bump us down some.
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Plus we will probably pick up an option on Mario's contract so that'll bump us down some.
For some reason, I remembered us further down on the list than that.
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Now that I think about it, the left field move. . . hmmmm.

We sign, ugh, this is tough. . . DEREK ANDERSON!

See it's perfect! Then we have the awesome 3 headed QB monster that will totally crush all comers and goers. We trade Sage for a 7th round pick that we immediately draft, uh, hmmm. . . uh. . . Okay I can't even think of somebody to draft in the seventh round that anybody would know of.

I think the reason it's called a "out of left field" is because nobody see's it coming.

(BTW if we sign Derek Anderson and give up draft picks for him, I'm quitting. Screw you guys, I'm goin home quitting)
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sigh at us having the same cap space as the boys..... and less than the jags and CLE (especially)- having they spent big on FA the last two yrs?
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no caddy for the texans. we already have ahman green... the idea is to get someone to PLAY.
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Julius Peppers to the Texans for a 3rd Round pick in 2008 and 2009 and Anthony Weaver. Panthers claim that they are in a rebuilding phase and Peppers had a dramatic drop-off in performance. They don't want to pay him a large salary after his contract year in 2008.

Hey, this does classify as a move out of nowhere....
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1st off we sign Michael turner

We Draft Jeff Otah

We would be totally greedy to expect Samuel but i expect Dunta to come back healthy and and Bennet showed he can hang with the big boys the biggest move i would like the texans to make is hire a big time DC
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I still don't know what we were thinking getting Green. Yes I will admit I was excited about it at first, but I knew I was just showing my support because what else was I supposed to do. I already knew he wasn't going to play half the season even before it started . Now we are stuck with him.
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I still don't know what we were thinking getting Green. Yes I will admit I was excited about it at first, but I knew I was just showing my support because what else was I supposed to do. I already knew he wasn't going to play half the season even before it started . Now we are stuck with him.
I think it had something to do with Sherman, he's gone now!
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I still don't know what we were thinking getting Green. Yes I will admit I was excited about it at first, but I knew I was just showing my support because what else was I supposed to do. I already knew he wasn't going to play half the season even before it started . Now we are stuck with him.

How would you have attempted to upgrade at RB last year with very limited cap space and without a 2nd round pick?
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WE DONT NEED A RB, IS EVERYONE BLIND OR JUST DUMB, WE NEED O LINE, CHRIS TAYLOR AND D WALKER ARE BALLERS
How about you stop insulting everyone who doesn't see everything the way you do? Mmmkay?
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To all those who are wanting a huge splash via FA (A.Samuel or someone in the same price range) .... I got one thing to say ...... Putting that much cash into one player when this team has several other holes to fill is not a sound decision .
If this team were a great corner or LB (Lance Briggs) away from being a Superbowl contender then it makes more sense to throw that much money at a guy who can be the missing piece ..... But this team is missing a lot more than either of those guy's can bring . Thats only asking to be in cap hell in a year or two .


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Dunno if anyone else noticed, but it seems like Kubes and Gruden have a pipeline similar to the one he has/did have with Shanahan.
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Julius Peppers to the Texans for a 3rd Round pick in 2008 and 2009 and Anthony Weaver. Panthers claim that they are in a rebuilding phase and Peppers had a dramatic drop-off in performance. They don't want to pay him a large salary after his contract year in 2008.

Hey, this does classify as a move out of nowhere....
The key is to rebuilb by getting rid of money. Weaver makes to much for it to be profitable to trade Peppers for him.
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The key is to rebuilb by getting rid of money. Weaver makes to much for it to be profitable to trade Peppers for him.
Trade will never happen, but the details are:

Peppers has a $6.5 mil salary next year (the last of his contract). The Panthers sucked up his bonus as a roster bonus this year so they could get rid of him with no dead money.

Weaver has a $3.5 mil base salary next year and a total cap hit if he stays of $6 mil. Problem is if the Texans were to trade him they would get stuck with four years of prorated signing bonus which is $10 mil. Not happening.
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Don't know if this qualifies as "out of nowhere", but how about signing Boss Bailey as strong side OLB? He played for both Richard Smith & Johnny Holland at Detroit. In '07, Bailey had his best season since his rookie year with 4 sacks as a blitzer. And, Boss would bring some much needed speed to the Texans LB corps.
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Trade will never happen, but the details are:

Peppers has a $6.5 mil salary next year (the last of his contract). The Panthers sucked up his bonus as a roster bonus this year so they could get rid of him with no dead money.

Weaver has a $3.5 mil base salary next year and a total cap hit if he stays of $6 mil. Problem is if the Texans were to trade him they would get stuck with four years of prorated signing bonus which is $10 mil. Not happening.
On Weaver, what about cutting him and saving $2.5m and replacing him with Earl Cochran?
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