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Old 01-04-2008   #1
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Default Re: Youtube Video:THe biggest Draft Busts in texans history

Par for the course, he lists Gaffney as being taken over Clinton Portis, which is inaccurate. Pitts was taken over Portis.

Never let the facts stand in the way of a good tale, I suppose.
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Bennie Joppru
Tony Hollings
Travis Johnson
Dave Ragone
Jason Babin
Chance Pearce (never heard of this guy...he was a 7th rounder...)
Jabar Gaffney
Tony Boselli

oh yeah...and that one guy was on that list to. I won't even mention his name
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Bennie Joppru
Tony Hollings
Travis Johnson
Dave Ragone
Jason Babin
Chance Pearce (never heard of this guy...he was a 7th rounder...)
Jabar Gaffney
Tony Boselli

oh yeah...and that one guy was on that list to. I won't even mention his name
We didn't draft Boselli. He came from the deal with the Jags.
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Default Re: Youtube Video:THe biggest Draft Busts in texans history

Gaff was the 1st pick of the 2nd round. So, yes, Gaff was taken over Portis as well.

And it's not like Gaff is a bust. He is doing pretty decent in New England. All he needed was a QB.
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Par for the course, he lists Gaffney as being taken over Clinton Portis, which is inaccurate. Pitts was taken over Portis.

Never let the facts stand in the way of a good tale, I suppose.
They were both taken over Portis .

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...2120&type=team
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They were both taken over Portis .
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2(34) Carolina DeShaun Foster RB UCLA
3(35) Detroit Kalimba Edwards DE South Carolina
4(36) Buffalo Josh Reed WR Louisiana State
5(37) Dallas Andre Gurode C Colorado
6(38) Minnesota Raonall Smith OLB Washington State
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8(40) Jacksonville Mike Pearson OT Florida
9(41) Cincinnati Lamont Thompson S Washington State
10(42) Indianapolis Larry Tripplett DT Washington
11(43) Kansas City Eddie Freeman DT Alabama-Birmingham
12(44) New Orleans LeCharles Bentley C Ohio State
13(45) Tennessee Clevan "Tank" Williams S Stanford
14(46) NY Giants Tim Carter WR Auburn
15(47) Cleveland Andre Davis WR Virginia Tech
16(48) San Diego (from Atlanta) Reche Caldwell WR Florida
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Default Re: Youtube Video:THe biggest Draft Busts in texans history

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We didn't draft Boselli. He came from the deal with the Jags.
Technically we did draft him, in the 2002 expansion draft.
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That guy needs to proofread. At least spell their names right if you're gonna bash them.
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Default Re: Youtube Video:THe biggest Draft Busts in texans history

Yes, Gaff was taken #33. Portis was taken #51. Pitts was taken #50. We always hear about how Gaff was taken ahead of Portis, but we so seldom hear about how Pitts was taken ahead of Portis. It's disingenuous to categorize Gaffney's draft status with the Portis pick.
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Technically we did draft him, in the 2002 expansion draft.
Pretty sure HOU-TEX was making a joke about the theory that there was a wink-wink deal in place to not protect Boselli, Walker and Payne - so they (JAX)could dump cap money and the Texans could then get a couple of defensive guys they wanted.
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That guy needs to proofread. At least spell their names right if you're gonna bash them.
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Exactly!!Splitting hairs above.

He also didn't mention our 3rd rounder at NT from 2002, Charles Hill. Yeah, that Charles Hill whom you have never heard of and who got cut.

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Yes, Gaff was taken #33. Portis was taken #51. Pitts was taken #50. We always hear about how Gaff was taken ahead of Portis, but we so seldom hear about how Pitts was taken ahead of Portis. It's disingenuous to categorize Gaffney's draft status with the Portis pick.
What about saying LaCharles Bentley and Andre Gurode were taken before Pitts?
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I don't think Gaffney was necessarily a bust but I think he was probably selected a little too high (1st pick in the 2nd round).
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Yes, Gaff was taken #33. Portis was taken #51. Pitts was taken #50. We always hear about how Gaff was taken ahead of Portis, but we so seldom hear about how Pitts was taken ahead of Portis. It's disingenuous to categorize Gaffney's draft status with the Portis pick.
The only time stuff like this makes sense is in the "Sam Bowie" mode of evaluation. Blaming ANY team for "passing" on a guy that the whole league did (pretty much TWICE) is ranging on the absurd.

We got a steal on DeMeco...why isn't everyone bashing the other 31 teams for not taking him? Oh, that's right, we're the Texans and never make any "good" decisions.
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I don't think Gaffney was necessarily a bust but I think he was probably selected a little too high (1st pick in the 2nd round).
I just remember reading an article in the Chronicle trying to compare David Carr, Jonathan Wells, and Jabar Gaffney to Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, and Michael Irvin. Sheesh. What a load of BS
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Not only could the Texans have drafted Portis, they could've also landed either Gurode or Bentley instead of Gaffney. Of course, Casserly was counting on Boselli and Young to be the nucleus of the O-line, so there wasn't a pressing need to draft a lineman at the top of the second round.
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I just remember reading an article in the Chronicle trying to compare David Carr, Jonathan Wells, and Jabar Gaffney to Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, and Michael Irvin. Sheesh. What a load of BS
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Exactly!!Splitting hairs above.

He also didn't mention our 3rd rounder at NT from 2002, Charles Hill. Yeah, that Charles Hill whom you have never heard of and who got cut.



What about saying LaCharles Bentley and Andre Gurode were taken before Pitts?
LOL, exactly! We never hear about how Gaffney was taken ahead of Bentley or Gurode. It's just utter BS hyperbole, and it's completely disingenuous. Gaffney was taken too high; I think everyone agrees on that.
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The only time stuff like this makes sense is in the "Sam Bowie" mode of evaluation. Blaming ANY team for "passing" on a guy that the whole league did (pretty much TWICE) is ranging on the absurd.

We got a steal on DeMeco...why isn't everyone bashing the other 31 teams for not taking him? Oh, that's right, we're the Texans and never make any "good" decisions.
Cause the Texans could field a pretty good team with guys they could have picked from 2002 -2005 .
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