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Old 01-03-2008   #1
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A little surprised by Harvey. The other two needed to go pro as their teams are going to have very big questions next year, even with them. Martellus has the ability to be the next Gates at TE. He is uber athletic.
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the Texans should be able to draft a great player even @ #18 with the talent coming out early. on Stewart I hav'ent seen the offical announcement but the Oregonian is reporting its a done deal. I'm posting these paragraphs because, well they just happen to mention the Texans & Amobi Okoye, thats cool to me says they know we exist & I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

"Well, things went right enough to make Stewart a likely top 10 NFL pick.

He rushed for a Sun Bowl record 253 yards on Monday, pushing his Oregon single-season school record to 1,722 yards, the ninth-best in Pacific-10 Conference history. He's also second on the school's career rushing list with 2,891 yards.

On Monday, there was a line of salivating NFL scouts taking notes. Stewart is a lock as a first-round pick, and his signing bonus alone amounts to Powerball lottery winnings. The No. 10 pick in the 2007 draft, Texans defensive tackle Amobi Okoye, received a guaranteed $12.8 million -- about 267 times the national median annual household income.

After the final game of the season, Stewart neither confirmed, nor denied, nor answered, nor offended anyone in response to a question about his plans. He smiled. He laughed. He remained noncommittal -- allowing the Ducks to use a "Play alongside Stewart" recruiting pitch -- all while being gracious.

It was a brilliant act."


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I find it funny they mentioned Okoye's $12.8 million guaranteed money as 267x the national median ANNUAL household income.

The point they're trying to make is that roughly $13million is an incredible amount of money, it's just curious to compare it to an annual figure when the guaranteed money isn't an annual amount-it's over the life of the contract.
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I kind of wish Tight End was a bigger need for us- I really like some of the TE's coming out like Fred Davis, Martellus Bennett, and I really like Mizzou's Martin Rucker. I think these guys are solid 2nd round guys but (a) we don't currently have that selection and (b) there would most likely be a position of need for us that grades out close to these players meaning we wouldn't select them.
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bennet's the kinda guy i'd like to see miami get with that second first rounder we got.
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I kind of wish Tight End was a bigger need for us- I really like some of the TE's coming out like Fred Davis, Martellus Bennett, and I really like Mizzou's Martin Rucker. I think these guys are solid 2nd round guys but (a) we don't currently have that selection and (b) there would most likely be a position of need for us that grades out close to these players meaning we wouldn't select them.
Sorry to hate, but I think TE is a need for us. OD is to inconsistant to rely on. He has a great play, then he fumbles. He makes great catches, then one bounces off of his face mask. TE isnt a top 5 need for us, but it is a need.
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Sorry to hate, but I think TE is a need for us. OD is to inconsistant to rely on. He has a great play, then he fumbles. He makes great catches, then one bounces off of his face mask. TE isnt a top 5 need for us, but it is a need.
if you just coach him up, those mistakes will be eliminated and POW you got a top 10 tight end.
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bennet's the kinda guy i'd like to see miami get with that second first rounder we got.
Is it Green Bay's 2nd round pick y'all have and if so how'd you get it?

What is Parcells draft philosophy as far as trades go? Any chance he sees a player at the #18 spot that he would really want and trade both 2nd rounders to Houston? Depending on how the 1st overall goes (Chris Long/Glenn Dorsey??) who could he see at 18 he would really want?

#18- 900pts Houston's
#33 (really 32)- 590pts Miami's
#60(59ish?)- 310 pts -San Diego

By my math that's a dead even trade points-wise. I could see Smith pulling the trigger if that's offered and there isn't a LT for this team available.

33: Sam Baker-LT, Jeff Otah-LT, Ray Rice-RB, Antoine Cason-CB, Reggie Smith-CB/FS???
60: Martin Rucker-TE, Alex Mack-C, Chris Williams-OT, Tracy Porter-CB
82: Tashard Choice-RB, etc etc...??
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if you just coach him up, those mistakes will be eliminated and POW you got a top 10 tight end.
I'm glad these guys don't couplate the way they have patience on tallent. We'd have a population collapse in Houston.
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Is it Green Bay's 2nd round pick y'all have and if so how'd you get it?

What is Parcells draft philosophy as far as trades go? Any chance he sees a player at the #18 spot that he would really want and trade both 2nd rounders to Houston? Depending on how the 1st overall goes (Chris Long/Glenn Dorsey??) who could he see at 18 he would really want?

#18- 900pts Houston's
#33 (really 32)- 590pts Miami's
#60(59ish?)- 310 pts -Green Bay's

By my math that's a dead even trade points-wise. I could see Smith pulling the trigger if that's offered and there isn't a LT for this team available.

33: Sam Baker-LT, Jeff Otah-LT, Ray Rice-RB, Antoine Cason-CB, Reggie Smith-CB/FS???
60: Martin Rucker-TE, Alex Mack-C, Chris Williams-OT, Tracy Porter-CB
82: Tashard Choice-RB, etc etc...??
we have San Diego's second rounder from the Chambers trade.

i haven't looked too in-depth at his draft trading, but i know he did have four 1st rounders in 2000. no clue how those came about.
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we have San Diego's second rounder from the Chambers trade.

i haven't looked too in-depth at his draft trading, but i know he did have four 1st rounders in 2000. no clue how those came about.
Thanks, How could I forget about that...traded him right before Houston played SD!

4 1st rounders? sheesh.
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where's your source on martellus? I haven't seen it on any of the aggie sites.
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Is it Green Bay's 2nd round pick y'all have and if so how'd you get it?

What is Parcells draft philosophy as far as trades go? Any chance he sees a player at the #18 spot that he would really want and trade both 2nd rounders to Houston? Depending on how the 1st overall goes (Chris Long/Glenn Dorsey??) who could he see at 18 he would really want?

#18- 900pts Houston's
#33 (really 32)- 590pts Miami's
#60(59ish?)- 310 pts -San Diego

By my math that's a dead even trade points-wise. I could see Smith pulling the trigger if that's offered and there isn't a LT for this team available.

33: Sam Baker-LT, Jeff Otah-LT, Ray Rice-RB, Antoine Cason-CB, Reggie Smith-CB/FS???
60: Martin Rucker-TE, Alex Mack-C, Chris Williams-OT, Tracy Porter-CB
82: Tashard Choice-RB, etc etc...??
If CLady and SPencer are gone at#18, I think I'd be ok with two 2nds. And if we could keep our third and trade up lower picks to get another 2nd as someone suggested on another thread, I'd be down with that.
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