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Old 12-04-2004   #61
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Yeah, I'd hate to see Colts players do headcase things like wear Ron Artest jerseys around and talk about what a misunderstood guy he is....
or wear a friends jersey and say they think the punishment was too harsh. you know, like what actually happened. keep digging, you may find some real dirt sometime
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Old 12-04-2004   #62
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too harsh??? I wouldnt have shed a tear if they banned him ala Pete Rose
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but youre also not his friend.

for the record, i dont care either, kick him out of the game. but theres nothing wrong with supporting someone
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the colts defense IS getting better. over the 2nd half of the season, they are 9th in total defense as opposed to 31st over the 1st half. they lead the league in turnover ratio at +17, and have 2 guys close to the top in sacks. they have alot of the personnel they need on defense. some guys have been injured, and they need one more draft to address the linebacker (especially mlb) and other corner position. they are in great shape at all other defensive positions. their other biggest problem is that they were young and inexperienced. with the increased experience, it's now making a difference. so with that said, they can afford to keep the big 3 and have a good defense. it's just taken some time to get all of dungy's pieces in place there.
I heard on 610 radio just last night that Indianapolis has the most lopsided offense/defense salary disparity, 65% to 35% respectively. I'd be surprised if they signed both players and kept it that way.
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Is that so?

Rushing Yards .
1186 yards. Not to mention his 334 recieving yards.
#2 in NFL - Edge James

Recieving Yards.
764 Yards
#18 in NFL - Marvin Harrison
The reason that Marvin Harrison's numbers are down is the rise of Stokley and Reggie Wayne. Harrison was double-teamed a lot early in the season.

Inspite of that, Harrison still has more TD's than James. Out of receivers, Harrison has the most TD's in the AFC (12) and is only second to T.O. in the entire NFL. If you let Harrison go and promote Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokley, you run a high risk of encountering the same issues the Falcons have had with Peerless Price. He isn't the same without Moulds, is he?
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The Colts administration already said they are going to resign Edge and Marvin. Look for the Colts to release Marcus Pollard and Mike Vanderjagt. The Colts aren't going to break the tripletts up anytime soon. Also look for Manning to reconfigure his contract to keep them there.
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That is fine with me. I don't think the defense will be consistently good unless you spend some money on it. Otherwise you are going to start losing the only decent players you have on that side of the ball.

As a Texan's fan, I am glad to see that.
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I heard on 610 radio just last night that Indianapolis has the most lopsided offense/defense salary disparity, 65% to 35% respectively. I'd be surprised if they signed both players and kept it that way.
I wouldn't be surprised at all. they know they are a primarily offensive team. that's how they built the team to be, and that's where they will keep most of their money invested. even though the defense is getting better, it's not a great defense, so you don't want to start taking away from your offensive talent and then have just a decent defense and just a decent offense... that makes for a mediocre team. they know they are an offensive team, and they will sign both marvin and edge to keep it that way, and they will continue to build the defense through the draft.
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prolly about 35 % of the 65% goes to manning yeah i'm sure manning needs a new car or something so lets not lower his pay
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The short answer is no, no and no.

I'll be very surprised if Edge is not in South Beach next year.

It makes no sense to throw multi millions at a RB with that kind of mileage.
Local stories say you are both wrong. Edge has recently said he wants to stay here with Manning and Marvin. South Beach is a mess and will be for a long while, Texans are in better shape. The deal with Marvin is just about done and Edge is next. Peyton is making a ton, but it is actually less than last year against the cap and the cap goes up next year. Besides, without all the support, edge goes to a one dimensional team and he doesn't put up near the stats. One of the best things he does is block for manning in Blitz situations, w/o a Manning he is reduced to a runner, and Dominic Rhodes and others have proven, if you just want a runner, they can do that. If edge wants the HOF and a true legend, he'll be in Indy for next 7 years. besides with the Harrison deal all but done, they'll hang the "Franchise" tag on him next year and either get lots of #1 picks for him thereafter or he'll re-up.
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Besides, without all the support, edge goes to a one dimensional team and he doesn't put up near the stats.
Now here is a true statement and yet another reason the Texans shouldn't even think about making a run at James--he benefits tremendously from being a secondary threat on a pass happy team.
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Not true. Early on in Manning's career, Edge was the real reason Indy became a power in the NFL.
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Not true. Early on in Manning's career, Edge was the real reason Indy became a power in the NFL.
You mean early like in 1998 as a rookie when Manning had more yards passing than Carr will this year or any of the years since then when Manning had over 4000 yds passing every year? There is clearly a reciprocal relationship between a running game helping a QB and a passing game helping a RB, but there really doesn't seem to be an argument IMO that Manning is better as a QB than James as a RB, that Indy's offense is built around Manning, not James and that James has benefited more from Manning than vice versa.
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Not true. Early on in Manning's career, Edge was the real reason Indy became a power in the NFL.
well, im not sure about that. manning had marshall faulk in his rookie year when he struggled, and they won 3 games (i believe faulk was the best RB in the NFL at that time) but in mannings second year when they got EJ, i think it was just as much manning as it was edge
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This just in......

The Colts have agreed with Marvin Harrison on a 7 year contract extension. This does a couple of things. First, with conversions of roster bonus to signing bonus monies, his cap hit could actually be LESS next year than this year, giving more room under a scheduled to be larger cap. This makes room to sign the Edge. Barring that, it would allow the franchise tag to be put on Edge. He will also be a Colt next year!

In other breaking news, the Colts signed Gramaticca today, releasing Jason Baker who had been handling kickoff duties.

Thought you'd like to hear the breaking news!
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This just in......

The Colts have agreed with Marvin Harrison on a 7 year contract extension. This does a couple of things. First, with conversions of roster bonus to signing bonus monies, his cap hit could actually be LESS next year than this year, giving more room under a scheduled to be larger cap. This makes room to sign the Edge. Barring that, it would allow the franchise tag to be put on Edge. He will also be a Colt next year!

In other breaking news, the Colts signed Gramaticca today, releasing Jason Baker who had been handling kickoff duties.

Thought you'd like to hear the breaking news!
I've read that the Cap status of harrison will be about 9 million for the next four years. Can that really be lesser than his actual status? Do you know that for sure?
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From ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1942016

Two excerpts of interest:
Harrison, who was scheduled to enter free agency after this season, is guaranteed $22 million between now and 2006 and received a $6 million signing bonus. He is making $5.56 million this season.

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The structure of Harrison's contract will allow enough flexibility for the Colts to try to find a way to keep running back Edgerrin James. There is a $7 million roster bonus that can be converted into a signing bonus in order to lower Harrison's cap number in 2005 to around only $3.2 million.

This means a cap hit next year that is $2.36M less!

This should help, and as long as te CBA gets done and the cap goes up as expected due to the TV contracts, it shouldn't be a problem!
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So what players are going to be ex-Colts because of this and Edge's potential signing?
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Again, think cap. The cap goes UP, Harrison's hit goes DOWN. Both headed in the right direction for the Colts.

That is not to say there won't be some people that do not wear a Colts jersey next year. But not because of the cap.

My guess is Morris (MLB) will not be back. Never lived up to expectations. Pollard is expedable because of Clark's emergence as well as 3 other STRONG TE's behind that pair. We have a couple along the O-line that are UFAs, and you may see one go. Howard Mudd is an O-line genius, so that could happen easily. Brad Scioli(DE/DT) may be cut. Harper (CB) is almost assured to be gone since he is a UFA.

There are several others I may have to look up.

The nice thing about this is, that because the cap goes up, and the hits are going down, along with some strategic cuts, none of the losses should be because of the cap. It will be either because the Colts didn't feel they were worth the asking price, or because they decided to move on.

How are the Texans on cap?
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Again, think cap. The cap goes UP, Harrison's hit goes DOWN. Both headed in the right direction for the Colts.

That is not to say there won't be some people that do not wear a Colts jersey next year. But not because of the cap.

My guess is Morris (MLB) will not be back. Never lived up to expectations. Pollard is expedable because of Clark's emergence as well as 3 other STRONG TE's behind that pair. We have a couple along the O-line that are UFAs, and you may see one go. Howard Mudd is an O-line genius, so that could happen easily. Brad Scioli(DE/DT) may be cut. Harper (CB) is almost assured to be gone since he is a UFA.

There are several others I may have to look up.

The nice thing about this is, that because the cap goes up, and the hits are going down, along with some strategic cuts, none of the losses should be because of the cap. It will be either because the Colts didn't feel they were worth the asking price, or because they decided to move on.

How are the Texans on cap?
Well, hits me more than unexpected. Your theory and the numbers look pretty well even if i dislike the possibility of the hydra staying in place. Let's see if everything falls into place like you've said. The asking price of Edge won't be low nor do i expect him to think about the Colts situation first. He could earn some bucks in FA and the Colts would have to match it or tag him and both aren't cheap choices.
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