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Old 12-11-2007   #1
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I now its early but who do you guys think we should try to get in the draft 1st round, or what position? Is Darren Mcfadden going to declare for the draft and if so do you think we should trade up to try to get him?
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No, we already don't have a 2nd round pick and we have a lot of holes. We need all of the picks that we have (possibly more).
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No, we already don't have a 2nd round pick and we have a lot of holes. We need all of the picks that we have (possibly more).


What do you think we will go after 1st position wise?
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Default Re: Next years draft.

Depending on where we pick and who's available, OT, RB, FS
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Depending on where we pick and who's available, OT, RB, FS
Or possibly CB since Phillips is the only reasonable safety choice in the 1st round.
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Default Re: Next years draft.

No way do we trade up. McFadden will declare and be gone in the top 5. There are several RB's that would fit this team well.

Our offensive line is begging Kubiak & Smith to select a Left Tackle in the 1st round.

Left Tackle, Running Back, Free Safety and possibly Cornerback are the highest probabilities in my mind.

Kenny Phillips is the only FS in the class worth considering in the 1st.

There are a handful of good CB's (Malcolm Jenkins, Aqib Talib, etc) that should be available with our pick.

McFadden will be gone, but Jonathan Stewart would be a great pick. Also RB's like Ray Rice, possibly Felix Jones, etc.

As far as Left Tackle, it depends what juniors declare (as with all the other positions) but we may be sitting pretty to take one and would be wise to do so. Ryan Clady is slowly climbing up the charts where we may miss out on him, Michael Oher if he declares too would be a good pick. Sam Baker has been injured this year and will probably drop. Jake Long will probably be long gone by the time we pick too.
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Default Re: Next years draft.

Well, we have a good number of threads alread addressing this same question/concern...
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No way do we trade up. McFadden will declare and be gone in the top 5. There are several RB's that would fit this team well.

Our offensive line is begging Kubiak & Smith to select a Left Tackle in the 1st round.

Left Tackle, Running Back, Free Safety and possibly Cornerback are the highest probabilities in my mind.

Kenny Phillips is the only FS in the class worth considering in the 1st.

There are a handful of good CB's (Malcolm Jenkins, Aqib Talib, etc) that should be available with our pick.

McFadden will be gone, but Jonathan Stewart would be a great pick. Also RB's like Ray Rice, possibly Felix Jones, etc.

As far as Left Tackle, it depends what juniors declare (as with all the other positions) but we may be sitting pretty to take one and would be wise to do so. Ryan Clady is slowly climbing up the charts where we may miss out on him, Michael Oher if he declares too would be a good pick. Sam Baker has been injured this year and will probably drop. Jake Long will probably be long gone by the time we pick too.
Both the CB's you list are good picks. I'm just not a big fan of Stewart and don't see him being worth a high pick at the next level. I'm a big fan of Felix Jones, Rasheed Mendenhall, and Kevin Smith. Clady is the best OT in this draft. Oher is the best OG in this draft, about the 6th best OT or so. Baker fits naturally into our type of scheme, but I need more time to properly evaluate him (as I do with everyone else, but him even moreso). Jake Long is Todd Wade, and of course we would all take Wade with a top 5 pick. People who make mock drafts are so stupid; they just put down what they heard pre-season from a few talking heads.
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Both the CB's you list are good picks. I'm just not a big fan of Stewart and don't see him being worth a high pick at the next level. I'm a big fan of Felix Jones, Rasheed Mendenhall, and Kevin Smith. Clady is the best OT in this draft. Oher is the best OG in this draft, about the 6th best OT or so. Baker fits naturally into our type of scheme, but I need more time to properly evaluate him (as I do with everyone else, but him even moreso). Jake Long is Todd Wade, and of course we would all take Wade with a top 5 pick. People who make mock drafts are so stupid; they just put down what they heard pre-season from a few talking heads.
Well, I usually make mock drafts heading up to the draft & I make them based on my own scouting and observations. And they usually aren't far off from the way things actually play out. I dont consider myself stupid.
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Well, I usually make mock drafts heading up to the draft & I make them based on my own scouting and observations. And they usually aren't far off from the way things actually play out. I dont consider myself stupid.
That is different than what I was getting at. Making a mock based on your own scouting/observations is legit. That is quite respectable, even if things aren't quite like they turn out. What I was meaning as stupid is when people obviously make a mock that mimics Kipper and other talking heads. Like stupid people who had Allen Branch going top 5 for most of the year, and I'm sitting there putting him second round in my mocks and what the hell do you know? You watch tape, you use your own opinion, you read a few things from outside sources, and then you put all that together.
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Default Re: Next years draft.

I dont see RB as big a need for us as OLB. We have no playmaker ability out of them, and they are barley servicable at that. You can get a speed guy at RB in later rounds, but OLB is a legit need.
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That is different than what I was getting at. Making a mock based on your own scouting/observations is legit. That is quite respectable, even if things aren't quite like they turn out. What I was meaning as stupid is when people obviously make a mock that mimics Kipper and other talking heads. Like stupid people who had Allen Branch going top 5 for most of the year, and I'm sitting there putting him second round in my mocks and what the hell do you know? You watch tape, you use your own opinion, you read a few things from outside sources, and then you put all that together.
thank god (not stupid) I'm currently working on my newest version of the 2008 Mock draft

I'm waiting after the Texans/Broncos game to re-submit because it effects us directly but I can already tell you Clady is long gone as is Kenny Phillips & Malcohm Jenkins, however Baker, Talib & Stewart are still available
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It's too bad we don't have a 2nd round pick, because I would love to have Ali Highsmith on this team. He may be a little undersized, but he reminds me a lot of DeMeco in the way that he is always around the ball making plays and big hits.
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Default Re: Next years draft.

3 top priorities:
(1) if at all possible, trade down with our first-rounder to get multiple picks.
(2) DO NOT use the top pick (if we can't trade the first rounder) on a running back. Too many good backs can be found in later rounds or even as undrafted
free agent rookies, e.g. Chris Taylor
(3) Top need positions with top pick: OLine & DBackfield, but don't lose sight of BPA principle
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Hard to say for me. If Sam Baker and Jake Long are gone in the first, then I'm all for taking the best RB available.

I think the Texans will be in the middle of the pack this year (13-17.) You don't have much say in the matter if you aren't drafting in the top 10.
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Hard to say for me. If Sam Baker and Jake Long are gone in the first, then I'm all for taking the best RB available.

I think the Texans will be in the middle of the pack this year (13-17.) You don't have much say in the matter if you aren't drafting in the top 10.
That's my view too. At least we would finally be done with the position instead of trying to find the next diamond in the rough every year.
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IMO, we'll take a DB in the first round.
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I'd rather sign Michael turner than draft a RB. The guy is proven over the past few seasons and if not for being a backup for the greatest RB in the league, he'd be a starter. He doesn't have alot of wear and tear and he can hit the homerun.


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I hope Turner is our #1 free agent target.
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I hope Turner is our #1 free agent target.
Me too. Considering how much we gave Green, Turner wouldn't cost much more than him. I say cut Green and go after Turner. I'm predicting, and have been predicting we sign him in the offseason.
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