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Old 11-30-2004   #41
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Speaking of McGahee...

The Bills were 0-4 before he was starting and have gone 5-2 since he has been starting. Early in the year everyone was moaning how bad the Bills line was. Since McGahee stepped up they are no longer blaming their line for all their problems. A great back can make your line's job much easier.
McGahee is not that much better than Travis Henry, if any. Travis Henry was great the last two years, rushing for 1450 and 1350, and the O-line still sucked. Bledsoe is actually scrambling a little and avoiding sacks, rather than just curling up into a fetal position.
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Could he have made the same impact early in the season? There was the 13-10 loss to Oakland in which Henry was stopped near the goal line. Henry fell down on a critical third-down play Oct. 3 against New England with the Bills trying to tie the game. Drew Bledsoe fumbled on an attempted bootleg on the next play, and Richard Seymour ran it back for a touchdown in the Pats' 31-17 win.

So maybe.

The Bills had gone nine games without a rushing touchdown until McGahee scored his first career TD against Arizona. His seven TDs have come in his last five games. He has 726 yards rushing, putting him on pace for 1,056 yards. Factor his six starts over a 16-game season, and McGahee would be on pace for 1,594 yards rushing. The Bills have not had a 1,500-yard rusher since O.J. Simpson ran for 1,503 yards in 1976.
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Hypotheticals. Gotta love em.

Has McGahee run for those 1594 yards? Nope. Has Travis Henry run for 1350 and 1450 his last two seasons. Yep. McGahee still has a little proving to do before he is deemed great.
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Hypotheticals. Gotta love em.

Has McGahee run for those 1594 yards? Nope. Has Travis Henry run for 1350 and 1450 his last two seasons. Yep. McGahee still has a little proving to do before he is deemed great.
There is nothing hypothetical about the Bills going nine consecutive games without a rushing touchdown then McGahee comes on with seven TD's in his last five games.
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1000 yards was the standard for a 12 game schedule
Even though 1000 yards meant a lot more during the years of the 12 game schedule, 1000 rushing yards remained a benchmark well into the era of the 14 game schedule from 1960-77 (when I started watching football). If you go back and look at the books you will find that there were very few 1,000 yard rushers in the AFL/NFL (not more than 2-3 in the NFL and fewer in the AFL) until 1972 when there were at least 9 guys who did it. But then in '73 and '74 there were only 5. Then things got cooking again in the late 70's with more and more 1000 yard rushers. When they went to 16 game schedule in '78 then 1000 yards became less impressive even though it remains some kind of legacy measure of goodness.
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There is nothing hypothetical about the Bills going nine consecutive games without a rushing touchdown then McGahee comes on with seven TD's in his last five games.
True. However you can't assume without proof that he will rush for 1594 yards or that he would have won the Oakland and New England game. As the article implies.
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I'm not assuming anything. I just know that with the same line the Bills are getting much more production from their running game. TD's out of the Running game have been non-existant before McGahee. A larger more physical McGahee wears down a defense and gets in the end zone more than the smallish Henry did with the same line.
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On his runs of 27 and 41 yards, Davis had huge holes that most of us could have run through for close to the same yardage. On the run of 27 yards, he was tackled by the first guy to touch him. On the TD run for 41 yards, he was never touched.

Much of DD's problems this year have been that he can't break tackles. Good running backs are able to run thru or by the first tackler, or at least when they get tackled by that first man it is only after they get an extra couple of yards. This year DD needs an open hole to get 4 yards.

Remember in the Green Bay game when DD got through the hole and was one-on-one with LB Nai Diggs? Diggs was able to wrap up DD and stand him up. Good (not great, just good) RB's are able to at least keep their legs going and dive forward after contact.
You know what though? Last season Davis did break tackles. He broke tackles all the time. Since the horrible start he had this season with the fumble problems he hasn't been the same back even when he had holes to run through. He hasn't been able to twist away from anyone. He hasn't run over anyone and yes, last year he ran over some people. He shook people off of him all the time last year.

That particular aspect of his game was not in my mind a question at all. He could get extra yards after contact. The downside to his game was always the lack of speed when he did get away from people. He could get good yardage on a regular basis before his fumbles got inside his head and changed his style. It just remains to be seen whether he's going to get that back. A few good games could turn him back around I think. He just needs to start going for it again while still being aware of keeping the ball in his hands and off the ground. Focusing on nothing but avoiding the fumble apparently leads to 3 yards a carry and an unwillingness to break a tackle.
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He's had over 175 touches now without a fumble. Maybe he'll get over it. I'd like to see the DD that caught my attention in the Indy game last year - at Indy - I recall a run around right end near the goal line that made me go "whoa" this dude can bring it.
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I'm confused. Some are saying DD's to blame for his fall-off in production this year. Others blame the O-line. I think the truth's somewhere in the middle, and I really do think the 4 fumbles at the start of the season messed him up for a while.

Fact is, he's not committing nearly as many turnovers as our star QB, who's getting hyped for progress and growth. And what's changed more since last season--Davis, or the offensive line? The same line protecting our star QB, right?
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