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Ole Miss Texan · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Black Spot

I couldn't help it...so here goes.

QB - Bucs
RB - Bucs
FB - Bucs
WR - Push
TE - Bucs
OT - Bucs
OG - Bucs
C - Bucs

DE - Bucs
DT - Bucs
OLB - Bucs
MLB - Bucs -Push
CB - Bucs
FS - Bucs
SS - Bucs

I wanted to come down hard on you, but truthfully your list sadly looks fairly accurate. I wouldn't give the definite edge to Ruud for MLB- I'd give Meco and Ruud a push....

**HOU-TEX** · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

There, made a few corrections for you!!

Ahh, see it looks better when there's truly an unbiased opinion. LMAO!

Black Spot · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by crunkbuc4d1

Honestly most of the list is right. the only position that I think the Texans are better at is WR.

I'm not touching the Stadium or City/Area with a 10ft pole.

Yea sorry, I was being a smartass when I wrote those.

Reliant as well as Ray Jay are both premium NFL stadiums and both will hold a number of Super Bowls in thier time.

Btw, we have next year's SB and I believe Reliant does in '11, sadly after Miami somehow get's another two.

crunkbuc4d1 · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

I wanted to come down hard on you, but truthfully your list sadly looks fairly accurate. I wouldn't give the definite edge to Ruud for MLB- I'd give Meco and Ruud a push....

I don't know...Ruud has to get the edge only because the MLB is the QB of the Cover 2 defense. We know whose defense is ranked higher so that gives him a minor edge. If we switched them out, I'd give Ryans the edge for the same reason.

Brandon420tx · 12-07-2007

Heres my take
QB - Bucs
RB - Bucs
FB - Push (Leach brings power)
WR - Texans
TE - Push (Daniels is good when the QB doesn't lead him into 3-way collisions)
OT - Bucs
OG - Bucs
C - Bucs (Your Center can't be worse then Flanagan)

DE - Bucs (Only because Mario can't play both positions)
DT - Bucs (Travis Johnson is coming into his own, but Okoye looks tired.)
OLB - Bucs
MLB - Push (Have you ever heard of Demeco Ryans?)
CB - Bucs
FS - Bucs x2
SS - Bucs x2

K - Texans (Kris Brown has leg)
P - Bucs (I don't know your punter)

Head Coach - Bucs
Offensive Assistants - Bucs
Defensive Coordinator - Bucs x50
Defensive Assistants - Bucs

Brandon420tx · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by crunkbuc4d1

I don't know...Ruud has to get the edge only because the MLB is the QB of the Cover 2 defense. We know whose defense is ranked higher so that gives him a minor edge. If we switched them out, I'd give Ryans the edge for the same reason.

You've already said you have had a good scheme and good young players around Ruud, Demeco has had to carry our entire defense with the weak scheme we run here. The only people to help him out from time to time on our defense are Mario, Travis Johnson, Fred Bennett, and Will Demps. Dunta Robinson is injured, and Danny Clark helps against the run but is slow.

Basically Demeco has had to do more with less.

crunkbuc4d1 · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Brandon420tx

You've already said you have had a good scheme and good young players around Ruud, Demeco has had to carry our entire defense with the weak scheme we run here. The only people to help him out from time to time on our defense are Mario, Travis Johnson, Fred Bennett, and Will Demps. Dunta Robinson is injured, and Danny Clark helps against the run but is slow.

Basically Demeco has had to do more with less.

I agree, but it's like with the MVP award..you give it to the QB with the better record. Ruud is our QB on defense.

austintexanite · 12-07-2007

I'd give the push to the TE, and I'd take our MLB over Rudd. I think both Demeco and Rudd are great players, but Rudd has had veteran leadership (Brooks, Barber, and the Great Kiffin) to help him understand the scheme, whereas Demeco has been left alone. Oddly as it is, I would give the edge to our kicker this year. He has been great this year (I bet I jinxed him for Sunday.)

Black Spot · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by crunkbuc4d1

I agree, but it's like with the MVP award..you give it to the QB with the better record. Ruud is our QB on defense.

Crunk, you know your not going to win this one bud. They only have a few things to be proud of and Ryans is the biggest.

HOWEVER, Barret Ruud in a Cover 2 scheme is only 15 tackles behind Ryans who has to freelance to cover every hole on the field.

edge - Ruud.

**Texan_Bill** · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Black Spot

Crunk, you know your not going to win this one bud. They only have a few things to be proud of and Ryans is the biggest.

HOWEVER, Barret Ruud in a Cover 2 scheme is only 15 tackles behind Ryans who has to freelance to cover every hole on the field.

edge - Ruud.

You left out:
Solo Tackles: Ryans 89 - Ruud 67
Sacks: Ryans 2 - Ruud 0
Passes defended: Ryans 5 - Ruud 2

Although, I will admit Ruud leads in INT's 2-1

Brandon420tx · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

You left out:
Solo Tackles: Ryans 89 - Ruud 67
Sacks: Ryans 2 - Ruud 0
Passes defended: Ryans 5 - Ruud 2

Although, I will admit Ruud leads in INT's 2-1

What about fumbles and TDs?

**Texan_Bill** · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Brandon420tx

What about fumbles and TDs?

According to NFL.com they don't list TD's from fumbles (only INT's) and Ruud leads in Forced Fumbles 3-1

**TEXANS84** · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Black Spot

edge - Ruud.

Who?

Brandon420tx · 12-07-2007

Barret Ruud, he's been having a very good year for the Bucs. (I knew that before all the tampa fans came)

Post 1500!

PBuc · 12-07-2007

There is no doubt that position by position the bucs would seem to have an advantage. The have had an uncanny ability to play poorly in some games on the road.. They statistically beat the crap out of detroit and managed to lose. I look for a close game.

crunkbuc4d1 · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by PBuc

There is no doubt that position by position the bucs would seem to have an advantage. The have had an uncanny ability to play poorly in some games on the road.. They statistically beat the crap out of detroit and managed to lose. I look for a close game.

You are a brave soul to coome here with that name.

austintexanite · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by crunkbuc4d1

You are a brave soul to coome here with that name.

What do you mean???

**Texan_Bill** · 12-07-2007

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Originally Posted by PBuc

There is no doubt that position by position the bucs would seem to have an advantage. The have had an uncanny ability to play poorly in some games on the road.. They statistically beat the crap out of detroit and managed to lose. I look for a close game.

Sorry P-Burnt. I addressed this on the first page with my very 'unbiased' analysis:

QB - TEXANS
RB - TEXANS
FB - TEXANS
WR - TEXANS
TE -TEXANS
OT - TEXANS
OG - TEXANS
C - TEXANS

DE - TEXANS
DT -TEXANS
OLB - TEXANS
MLB - TEXANS
CB - TEXANS
FS - TEXANS
SS - TEXANS

K - TEXANS
P - TEXANS

Head Coach - TEXANS
Offensive Assistants - TEXANS
Defensive Coordinator - Got us there
Defensive Assistants - TEXANS

Record (8-4) - Bucs.... Caveat, its in the Nancy Football Conference
GM - TEXANS

Owner - TEXANS

Stadium - RELIANT
City/Area - H-TOWN -

MightyTExan · 12-07-2007

Brandon420tx · 12-07-2007

Cuz this is THRILLER!!

12-07-2007	#25
Brandon420tx Flounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 25 Posts: 3,870 Rep Power: 4417	Re: Are the Bucs Really a Better Team Than the Texans? Heres my take QB - Bucs RB - Bucs FB - Push (Leach brings power) WR - Texans TE - Push (Daniels is good when the QB doesn't lead him into 3-way collisions) OT - Bucs OG - Bucs C - Bucs (Your Center can't be worse then Flanagan) DE - Bucs (Only because Mario can't play both positions) DT - Bucs (Travis Johnson is coming into his own, but Okoye looks tired.) OLB - Bucs MLB - Push (Have you ever heard of Demeco Ryans?) CB - Bucs FS - Bucs x2 SS - Bucs x2 K - Texans (Kris Brown has leg) P - Bucs (I don't know your punter) Head Coach - Bucs Offensive Assistants - Bucs Defensive Coordinator - Bucs x50 Defensive Assistants - Bucs __________________ That Dolphin is the bravest thing I ever saw Last edited by Brandon420tx; 12-07-2007 at 02:45 PM.

12-07-2007	#28
austintexanite All Pro Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 30 Posts: 819 Rep Power: 7	Re: Are the Bucs Really a Better Team Than the Texans? I'd give the push to the TE, and I'd take our MLB over Rudd. I think both Demeco and Rudd are great players, but Rudd has had veteran leadership (Brooks, Barber, and the Great Kiffin) to help him understand the scheme, whereas Demeco has been left alone. Oddly as it is, I would give the edge to our kicker this year. He has been great this year (I bet I jinxed him for Sunday.) __________________ Defense in the name of the game.

12-07-2007	#34
Brandon420tx Flounder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 25 Posts: 3,870 Rep Power: 4417	Re: Are the Bucs Really a Better Team Than the Texans? Barret Ruud, he's been having a very good year for the Bucs. (I knew that before all the tampa fans came) Post 1500! __________________ That Dolphin is the bravest thing I ever saw

12-07-2007	#35
PBuc noob Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Re: Are the Bucs Really a Better Team Than the Texans? There is no doubt that position by position the bucs would seem to have an advantage. The have had an uncanny ability to play poorly in some games on the road.. They statistically beat the crap out of detroit and managed to lose. I look for a close game.

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MightyTExan It's go time! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 787 Rep Power: 4036	Re: Are the Bucs Really a Better Team Than the Texans?

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