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Old 05-21-2004   #21
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Thanks, but 78 was the first year of the 16-game schedule (just looked it up). The Oilers were 8-6 that year. 1978 was the switch year.
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If DD gets 2000 yards, that means he had 350+ carries. I'd kinda like to see him have a nice long career and that's certainly not the best way to approach it for a guy whose durability may be an issue.

His goals should look like this IMO (guess the RB):

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1591 290 .....5.5 14 65

I think we would all be ecstatic if he put up numbers like that.

Wasn't it OJ, Dickerson, and Jamal Lewis?

Clinton Portis. And I'm assuming you brought him up because he's the RB the Texans passed on before they selected Davis.
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It wasn't just the Texans that passed him up...

It was obviously Clinton Portis... IMO, the best pure RB in the game.
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Clinton Portis. And I'm assuming you brought him up because he's the RB the Texans passed on before they selected Davis.
yeah, they did pass on him, but it was in the '02 draft and not the '03 draft with Davis... and if things could be different, i'd much rather have Portis than Gaffney, which is who we picked up instead. Dont get me wrong, I like Davis, but I dont think he is as good as Portis... I hope he one day proves me wrong
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The whole league passed on Portis. Heck, his college coach passed on him twice (Butch Davis). He was the 51st pick. Heck if we are going to play that game then the Cowboys were daffy for taking Quincy Carter & Tony Dixon when Travis Henry was on the board. No one can see into the future, and projecting youngsters to mature into the NFL is not exactly an exacting science.
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Clinton Portis. And I'm assuming you brought him up because he's the RB the Texans passed on before they selected Davis.
It's great having Chester Pitts and Domanick Davis.

Bummer about Jackson, Jones and Perry .... Say 'hi' to Julius for us.
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Factors that dictate any RB getting 2000 yards.

1. An excellent OL that plays hard from start to finish.
2. A Defense that can stop the opposition regularly.
3. A QB that can manage the game and not lose the game.

I am sure there are others. My point being that a guy like Walter Payton didn't come out and say "I am getting ___ yards" He would let the game dictate his yards. I would say it was his luck to play while the Bears were playing some tough D.
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I'm so stoked about this season I can't see straight. If he thinks he can go 2000 then I say let him try. I'm sure he knows in his reasonable mind that he probably won't make it. I think he wants to give himself, the team, and the fans something exciting to look forward to.

Now, Hollings will get some play time (and hopefully produce some exciting numbers himself) if he shows during preseason that he's ready to step up to the plate. Can you imagine 2 backs compeating and throwing crazy stats up on the board? I'm beside myself.

Realistic? not really, but will it be exciting to watch? I don't think I have the words to describe it!

Hey DD, you go after your goals. Hollings, you do the same. Let the world look at the Texans and think to themselves, "Holy ****! What do those Texans eat?"

I think I've had too much coffee, but I said my piece.

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DD is a winner and says he's out to prove last year was no fluke, but more importantly win games. Great attitude. I see DD hitting 1200-1500 yds. and Hollings getting 800-1000.
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Davis should get 1200-1500.
Hollings should get 400-600.
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It's great having Chester Pitts and Domanick Davis.

Bummer about Jackson, Jones and Perry .... Say 'hi' to Julius for us.
So it's good to have an offensive lineman (Pitts) and a running back (Davis). Yet Dallas goofed by passing on Jackson, Jones and Perry but ended up with an offensive lineman (Rogers) with their original 2nd round pick and took a running back (J. Jones) with one of the picks they received through Buffalo.

That seems so logical to me.

Bummer about Jackson, Jones and Perry? Why? Because of all the Pro Bowls they've been to?
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If DD can get 20 carries a game for 16 games that's 320 totes. If he gets that he will probably have around 1200-1400 yards. I just hope he gets carries in all 16 games. If he proves durable enough, he can become one of the upper echelon backs in the league.
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you're right huge, who knows who is going to be better between jackson, perry, k jones, bell, and j jones. if the draft has told us anything it is that you can find great backs outside the first round. yeah i thought jackson was the best prospect but i wasn't sold on perry or kevin as first rounders and i thought tatum bell and julius would be steals if they slipped to the third round, we will just have to wait and see.
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I agree with HUGE. Dallas was probably trying to copy the Texans and get both an offensive linemen AND their choice at running back .... TATUM BELL.

Bummer that the Broncos took him right before the Cowboys pick. Oh well. Maybe they can convince people they wanted Julius anyway.

Broncos ... Portis ... Tatum Bell. Now I know why Portis was on Huge's mind.
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now that's the attitude i want my runningback to have...screw everyone who thinks i can't go the whole season i'm getting 2000yds...i would love to see him grab 2000+ yds next season...means a lot is going right on the offense and our defense will be rested...hefty contract...yeah probably...but if he did this stunt it would put us on the map
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I agree with HUGE. Dallas was probably trying to copy the Texans and get both an offensive linemen AND their choice at running back .... TATUM BELL.

Bummer that the Broncos took him right before the Cowboys pick. Oh well. Maybe they can convince people they wanted Julius anyway.

Broncos ... Portis ... Tatum Bell. Now I know why Portis was on Huge's mind.
Dallas traded out of the bottom of the first, picked up a first next year and a 2nd and 5th this year.

Houston traded into the bottom of the first by giving up a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th.

Trying to copy the Texans? Um...no.

Why was Portis on my mind? Quick, name all the RBs that averaged 5.5 ypc with over 1,500 yards last season...

But heresay is always fun. Guess it's a shame the Patriots took Vince Wilfork at #21 before the Texans could trade up to at least #20 and take the defensive player they really wanted. Too bad they had to settle for Babin.
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DD could have a coming out party this season, like Priest Holmes did in his first year with Kansas City. This is DD's second NFL season and we have also improved the o-line (which has also gained another year experience).

Dominick Davis
1,500 yards rushing
500 yards receiving

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Dallas traded out of the bottom of the first, picked up a first next year and a 2nd and 5th this year.

Houston traded into the bottom of the first by giving up a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th.

Trying to copy the Texans? Um...no.

Why was Portis on my mind? Quick, name all the RBs that averaged 5.5 ypc with over 1,500 yards last season...

But heresay is always fun. Guess it's a shame the Patriots took Vince Wilfork at #21 before the Texans could trade up to at least #20 and take the defensive player they really wanted. Too bad they had to settle for Babin.
We'll never know if when the Cowboys traded down they were hoping for Bell. We'll never know because the Broncos traded up ahead of them to get Bell rather than RISK being left with Julius. Hey, don't worry about it. Maybe Julius will work out. Maybe the Broncos don't know much about drafting RBs and maybe they were wrong about NOT wanting Julius.

When the Texans traded up for Babins, it makes no sense to say 'settled'. You trade up because you have a strong conviction, like the Broncos did with Bell over Julius.

Hey, you're right. The first round pick will be nice for the Cowboys. Too bad they had to SETTLE for Julius at RB this year.
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Hollings will get more touches than most of you think. Bottom line is Dom is still has yet to prove his durability and I doubt we give him too many carries.
I am one that thinks Hollings will get about the same as Davis. It could easily be Davis and Hollings getting around 800 yards each.
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