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TexanSam · 11-25-2007

Because I absolutely hate the BCS, I'm hoping for a nightmare scenario where the most amount of teams will cry foul.

I hope Missouri loses to Oklahoma and West Virginia loses to Pitt that way a Georgia team that didn't even win the SEC East, much less the SEC itself, plays Ohio State in the National Championship. I'm sure there would be some sort of huge outcry by multiple teams if this scenario took place, but I doubt it would cause any change in this stupid system. One can always hope though

tulexan · 11-25-2007

That would actually be crazy and very possible seeing how unimpressive West Virginia has been and just how crazy everything this season has been in general.

Yankee_In_TX · 11-26-2007

I think Cinci or UConn was your best shot at that...

Yankee_In_TX · 11-26-2007

BTW, BCS bowl question.

My dad says GA gets the BCS SEC Bowl Bid because they're the highest SEC BCS team. I disagree. Isn't it the SEC champ regardless of BCS ranking?

tulexan · 11-26-2007

Winner of SEC Championship will get the Sugar Bowl, but UGA will also get a BCS bid

**eriadoc** · 11-26-2007

It's kind of an idle hope, because the BCS is already a debacle, but I too hope for the worst. I hate college football with a passion. Until they get a playoff system, I only tune in to root for a BCS collapse (and occasional player scouting). If they ever get a playoff system, I'll tune in.

jaayteetx · 11-26-2007

I'm pretty sure they instituted a rule that states a team has to win their conference or they are not eligible for the BCS national championship.

tulexan · 11-26-2007

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Originally Posted by jaayteetx

I'm pretty sure they instituted a rule that states a team has to win their conference or they are not eligible for the BCS national championship.

Then how did Oklahoma play LSU in the National Championship after losing to K State in the Big 12 championship?

powerfuldragon · 11-26-2007

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Originally Posted by eriadoc

I hate college football with a passion.

i kinda like this season...

kastofsna · 11-26-2007

lol, the BCS is made for seasons like this. it's supposed to determine who are the two best teams, and when there are a bunch of contenders, thank god for the BCS so we can know who are the two best.

love that BCS.<3

and i love that no matter how much everyone complains, they're still going to make a ton of money and they're never changing. ahh.

jaayteetx · 11-26-2007

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Originally Posted by tulexan

Then how did Oklahoma play LSU in the National Championship after losing to K State in the Big 12 championship?

They instituted after that year, thats how.

BigBull17 · 11-26-2007

The best scenario for a playoff was averted. Boston College and South Florida would have broke the camels back. As is, Mizzoo and W. Virginia may do that anyway.

jaayteetx · 11-26-2007

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Originally Posted by jaayteetx

They instituted after that year, thats how.

You know, I've done some research and can't find that rule so maybe they were just talking about it but didn't institute it. If its not a rule, it should be IMO.

kastofsna · 11-26-2007

yes they never instituted the rule. for good reason. it's possible that a team from a conference that doesn't play a championship could be considered the best team in the country and still not win their conference. let's say in the Big 10, where (for example) Illinois and Ohio State have the two best records. let's assume they don't play each other this year. Ohio State has one early conference loss, and Illinois runs the table in the conference, but lost 3 games out of conference. Illinois is in the Rose Bowl and Ohio State is left out of the championship. not the most likely scenario but it's certainly possible.

Yankee_In_TX · 11-26-2007

Ironically enough (and maybe this is a completely ESPN generated story) the Big 12 and SEC are complainig about their conference championships.

Hmmmm, greed (I think it is safe to assume these games weren't instituted solely for the glory of the conference!) coming back to bite you?

And don't say NEVER change Kast, just SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLY change, lol. Too many contracts and sponsors for anything other than baby steps, in whatever direction the BCS is headed.

CoastalTexan · 11-26-2007

Every other football division including D1 FCS has Playoffs. It's a couple big wigs who want their teams in the BCS games every year and for the money. Until they have a 16 team playoff who knows who the best team is.

TexansSeminole · 11-26-2007

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Originally Posted by kastofsna

lol, the BCS is made for seasons like this. it's supposed to determine who are the two best teams, and when there are a bunch of contenders, thank god for the BCS so we can know who are the two best.

love that BCS.<3

and i love that no matter how much everyone complains, they're still going to make a ton of money and they're never changing. ahh.

Kas I understand your perspective as I have read 3 or 4 posts of yours talking about the BCS as a good system. I just don't understand how WVU can be #2 and Ohio State can be behind them. Honestly, the only reason I see for it is that WVU lost in the beginning of the season and Ohio State lost at the end of the season. That's what seems to determine the #1 and #2 at the end of the season. I just don't think that's how it should be.

YoungTexanFan · 11-26-2007

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Kas I understand your perspective as I have read 3 or 4 posts of yours talking about the BCS as a good system. I just don't understand how WVU can be #2 and Ohio State can be behind them. Honestly, the only reason I see for it is that WVU lost in the beginning of the season and Ohio State lost at the end of the season. That's what seems to determine the #1 and #2 at the end of the season. I just don't think that's how it should be.

Losing late hurts you, Kansas at 11-1 dropped completely out of the national title picture, while 11-1 teams who had an early loss are now ahead of them, not to mention Kansas lost to then #4, now #1.

YoungTexanFan · 11-26-2007

It's also how Michigan managed to climb back into the rankings until Ohio State. They lost early, to a subdivision school, and then lost the next week as well, but after a fairly solid stretch, they climbed back into the top 25. If this had happened mid-season instead of the first two games, Michigan would never have had a chance to climb. Period.

Overalls · 11-26-2007

One reason I am glad that Hawaii is still undefeated and that their last win was against a top 20 team is that it points out the hypocrisy of the BCS. The BCS is only set up for a few elitist schools. The little dog never has a chance like in every other major college sport.

Go June Jones and the Rainbow Warriors.

11-26-2007	#5
tulexan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 5,080 Rep Power: 26	Re: BCS Nightmare Winner of SEC Championship will get the Sugar Bowl, but UGA will also get a BCS bid

11-26-2007	#6
eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,572 Rep Power: 71516	Re: BCS Nightmare It's kind of an idle hope, because the BCS is already a debacle, but I too hope for the worst. I hate college football with a passion. Until they get a playoff system, I only tune in to root for a BCS collapse (and occasional player scouting). If they ever get a playoff system, I'll tune in. __________________ "Never give to your friend any power that your enemy may one day inherit." - Paul Weyrich

11-26-2007	#7
jaayteetx Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Albuquerque,NM Section: 623 Age: 39 Posts: 3,089 Rep Power: 6446	Re: BCS Nightmare I'm pretty sure they instituted a rule that states a team has to win their conference or they are not eligible for the BCS national championship. __________________ Buck Fud.

11-26-2007	#10
kastofsna Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 7,438 Rep Power: 405	Re: BCS Nightmare lol, the BCS is made for seasons like this. it's supposed to determine who are the two best teams, and when there are a bunch of contenders, thank god for the BCS so we can know who are the two best. love that BCS.<3 and i love that no matter how much everyone complains, they're still going to make a ton of money and they're never changing. ahh.

11-26-2007	#12
BigBull17 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: Alvin Age: 32 Posts: 4,946 Rep Power: 4281	Re: BCS Nightmare The best scenario for a playoff was averted. Boston College and South Florida would have broke the camels back. As is, Mizzoo and W. Virginia may do that anyway. __________________ Is it March 6th yet?

11-25-2007	#1
TexanSam Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Age: 26 Posts: 16,662 Rep Power: 23578	BCS Nightmare Because I absolutely hate the BCS, I'm hoping for a nightmare scenario where the most amount of teams will cry foul. I hope Missouri loses to Oklahoma and West Virginia loses to Pitt that way a Georgia team that didn't even win the SEC East, much less the SEC itself, plays Ohio State in the National Championship. I'm sure there would be some sort of huge outcry by multiple teams if this scenario took place, but I doubt it would cause any change in this stupid system. One can always hope though __________________ Thanks to Premier

11-25-2007	#2
tulexan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 5,080 Rep Power: 26	Re: BCS Nightmare That would actually be crazy and very possible seeing how unimpressive West Virginia has been and just how crazy everything this season has been in general.

11-26-2007	#14
kastofsna Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 7,438 Rep Power: 405	Re: BCS Nightmare yes they never instituted the rule. for good reason. it's possible that a team from a conference that doesn't play a championship could be considered the best team in the country and still not win their conference. let's say in the Big 10, where (for example) Illinois and Ohio State have the two best records. let's assume they don't play each other this year. Ohio State has one early conference loss, and Illinois runs the table in the conference, but lost 3 games out of conference. Illinois is in the Rose Bowl and Ohio State is left out of the championship. not the most likely scenario but it's certainly possible.

11-26-2007	#16
CoastalTexan Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 459 Rep Power: 29	Re: BCS Nightmare Every other football division including D1 FCS has Playoffs. It's a couple big wigs who want their teams in the BCS games every year and for the money. Until they have a 16 team playoff who knows who the best team is.

11-26-2007	#19
YoungTexanFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,794 Rep Power: 653	Re: BCS Nightmare It's also how Michigan managed to climb back into the rankings until Ohio State. They lost early, to a subdivision school, and then lost the next week as well, but after a fairly solid stretch, they climbed back into the top 25. If this had happened mid-season instead of the first two games, Michigan would never have had a chance to climb. Period. __________________ The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we had when we created them.

11-26-2007	#20
Overalls Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 46 Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 63	Re: BCS Nightmare One reason I am glad that Hawaii is still undefeated and that their last win was against a top 20 team is that it points out the hypocrisy of the BCS. The BCS is only set up for a few elitist schools. The little dog never has a chance like in every other major college sport. Go June Jones and the Rainbow Warriors. __________________ Proud original member of the Texans Bull Pen 451

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