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Old 11-26-2007   #81
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I sorta feel the same way DB does. I just don't let losing get to me anymore. The day is done, we blew another game, life goes on as a football fan. I guess I like pulling for the underdog! I was screaming my lungs out for Philly to beat the Pats last night! I had a sh*tfaced grin on my ugly mug when I saw the Titans score. I have always hated the Dallas Cowboys and will continue to do so. NOT too would disrespect the football foundation on which I was rainsed!! lol I have watched my second fav football team flounder longer than I have the Texans. I find myself cheering for teams I never thought I would cheer for, ex: the Lions. I love the game of football. I don't just watch the TEXANS, I watch it all. Every week I find as much pleasure as I do disappointment. If my team can't win, then I sure as hell hope someone else knocks off my most hated teams!lol It's a game I chose to invest in many years ago. I will NEVER let it go!!

SOOO, next weekend I will be watching my 8y/o grandson play in HIS superbowl! For once in my life I will find myself screaming for the Cowboys, even though they will be decked out in orange and white. I'll continue to console my oldest grandson because his football team sucked this year and his season is over. I'll get up Sunday morning and wonder what TEXAN team will show up to play the hated Titans. I'll have faith that it will be the one I am most proud of. If not, Monday will be a new day and I'll start making plans for TB. That's just the way it is with me. I'm a TEXAN fan for life! At my age I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever see my favorite team in the playoffs, lets not even mention the SB. Regardless, I'll hang in there through it all, and hope that SOMEDAY they will make me proud that I did!
I feel like I should stand up and salute the flag or something. That folks in a nutshell is exactly what it is all about.
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Point 1: Let's see, he posted it.

Point 2: Number one component of football is to outscore the other team and put a W on the board not matter how you do it. Must be a lot of pictures in your story book.

Point 3: Thanks for recognizing my fandom, had it for quite some time now. Oh, and he's driving the bus that he's under, not me, but thank you for playing our game.
Typical response. The greatest minds in football concern themselves with controlling field position, but you outrsmart them all by wanting a W (no matter how you get it). Brilliant.
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He's been here since before the team was named. It's just a guy fed up and venting about watching another year of meaningless football in December. It's been over a decade since we have had a playoff run here in Houston.
I concur. I have been a fan of this team since day one. Hell, I was writing letters and e-mails to the NFL when it was between LA and Houston! It is hard to keep losing games that you know you should win. It is hard when your head coach can tell you exactly what he did wrong after the game that prevented the team from winning. The "Aw shucks, we lost, but we battled until the very end," stuff is old too. It gets much older when you are paying good money to see the team. I am not jumping off the bandwagon, but when expectations are high, the crash back to reality hurts that much more.

You might say, "Well, just don't have high expectations!", but if you don't have those, what is the point of even being a fan? I am staying on board, but if I become "That guy", I might as well jump off. "That guy" refers to the fan who is at every single game, early with his Texan jersey, hat, pants and anything else he can get, but rags on the team the entire game. Missed pass, "Get Schaub out of there!!!"; short gain on the ground, "Green you are washed up!!!"; missed FG, "My mom can kick better than you!!!". Don't want to become "That guy"!
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Typical response. The greatest minds in football concern themselves with controlling field position, but you outrsmart them all by wanting a W (no matter how you get it). Brilliant.
No kidding? Controlling field position huh, wouldn't have thought that would have anything to do with winning a ball game. Thanks for the Football 101 refresher. Genius.
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I've been born and raised a "Cowboy hater"...but I've actually started questioning myself with existential wonderment of why do I hate Dallas...I mean, they're from Texas, they're winners, they've never really done me wrong....see? I'm getting desperate thoughts to find a secondary team to root for! Texans in my heart forever, but still....I....just....hate....losing....year...aft er....freakin'....year!!!
WHOA!!!! DB starting to see the light? Walk towards the light DB, TOWARDS THE LIGHT! I'll pull you through.
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I've seen several mentions here about "fairweather" fans and "bandwagons."

When was the "fairweather"? I must have missed it.

Is the occasional win we stumble into considered fairweather?..

And the bandwagon? Is that the driverless wagon sitting in the mire with four missing wheels and no mules to pull it? ..

Why all the namecalling?

Just wondering.

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I haven't seen this much wailing and gnashing of teeth since Ernie refused to join Bert in the bathtub for a good back cleaning.
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I am not sure why some are that upset over a loss to the Browns?

The Brown actually have an oline that is pretty good - we don't

The Browns actually have a secondary - our is on IR.

I am not sure why you think we are actually going to win most of our games with the number of (starting) players we have on IR?

We just don't have the depth to recover these injuries. Some of our starters are marginal at best and when they go down, we get less than marginal players.

I think that we are doing ok this year - considering.

Sure beats what Miami is doing this year.
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I'm in this for the Long Haul, so I see little point in sugar-coating what the strengths & weaknesses of this team are.

I really hope that the release of Sherman will help Kubes re-define the Offense (again), rather than the utter mismatch of Denver/Green Bay styles. while I'm sure that Sherman had more than a few 'life lessons' to impart to Kubiak, it's time for them BOTH to get on w/ their respective careers.

The Defense the Texans put on the field yesterday is about as good as it's going to get without some heavy-duty roster replacements in the secondary. I'd like to see more 'chucking' at the line and more blitzes, but Richard Smith simply isn't going to do it in this lifetime.

I hate this ~.500 football as much as the next guy, but it simply isn't realistic to expect much better from a team with this many catastrophic injuries with no depth to back it up.

We were Talent-shy on BOTH sides of the ball before training camp was over. Why the sudden shock that we can look really bad AFTER all the injuries?

Enjoy the exceptions when they come (see Saints Game) and try not to get too low when the wheels come off.
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HMMM..another good way to put it.
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I'm in this for the Long Haul, so I see little point in sugar-coating what the strengths & weaknesses of this team are.

I really hope that the release of Sherman will help Kubes re-define the Offense (again), rather than the utter mismatch of Denver/Green Bay styles. while I'm sure that Sherman had more than a few 'life lessons' to impart to Kubiak, it's time for them BOTH to get on w/ their respective careers.

The Defense the Texans put on the field yesterday is about as good as it's going to get without some heavy-duty roster replacements in the secondary. I'd like to see more 'chucking' at the line and more blitzes, but Richard Smith simply isn't going to do it in this lifetime.

I hate this ~.500 football as much as the next guy, but it simply isn't realistic to expect much better from a team with this many catastrophic injuries with no depth to back it up.

We were Talent-shy on BOTH sides of the ball before training camp was over. Why the sudden shock that we can look really bad AFTER all the injuries?

Enjoy the exceptions when they come (see Saints Game) and try not to get too low when the wheels come off.
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looks like the Browns made some major changes from last year that worked. Looks like we made some major changes and some didn't work. How do we fix this?
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I feel like I should stand up and salute the flag or something. That folks in a nutshell is exactly what it is all about.
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No kidding? Controlling field position huh, wouldn't have thought that would have anything to do with winning a ball game. Thanks for the Football 101 refresher. Genius.
Again, completely typical. A respected, long-time Houston fan goes on the board and vents his (totally justifiable) angst over a truly stupid loss - and there you are, ready to shoot your mouth off in order to show everyone what a REAL Texans fan is like - you know, the real ones - like you.

And, in perfect form, you don't see anything disrespectful about it. You didn't tell Herv "Hey, I'll always be a fan", instead you basically told him to shut up and shove off if he can't hang wiith the real fans, like you. And when other respected members call you on it, you simply dig in.

It's all about your "fandom", as you call it. You might be the worst kind of fan there is.
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The only time the Texans had "Band Wagon" fans was the few months between the last loss to the Browns and the 2005 draft when everybody and their brother thought Reggie was comming.

We are all Texans fans, and we all have been since the thing started! Its not like the great play of David Carr had people in Utah wearing Carr Jersies around town.
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Bob McNair is running this team for profit, not to win it all.

We are not New England, nor Indy, nor Pittsburgh. Those teams have owners who will mortgage their own house if they need to.

Bob is a P.R. man. He cares about image, and he's put together a team that looks good (nice logo, nice facilities, etc.). But he's not going to spend the money it takes to really and truly getus over the top.

I have come full circle on Jerry Jones and Bud Adams. I used to hate those two guys, but within the past few months...I have come to actually admire them. They will do whatever it takes to get it done: They CRAVE to be a winner.

Bob is the nice grandfather who spends his afternoons in the back yard trimming the hedge, and then heads into the house for a sip of lemonade and a nice sit on the couch to catch the Cubs game as he gently falls asleep for an afternoon nap under the whirring of the air conditioner.

No PASSION. He doesn't need to win in the NFL to feel as though he's complete or "whole." He's done his job already. Now we all just show up and cheer for our team. And he sits in the luxury booth with Texas dignitaries and shoots the breeze as they watch his hobby out on the field.

Like I have been saying: We're the L.A. Clippers of the NFL.

I suspect Kubiak will have this year, and the next. But I think the gig (no pun intended) will be up after next year. The biggest error on Kubiak is that he doesn't have a quality staff around him to help him win games. I think he's potentially a good coach if he had the same caliber of coaches around him.

But...that'll never happen. When you see Richard Smith as being tabbed "THE GUY" when we were rebuilding, you shoulda' known it was over.

1. I haven't bought the Richard Smith deal. And never will.

2. I didn't buy the Ahman Green deal, and it looks like I'm right (again).

3. I DID buy the Schaub deal, but now I'm having doubts.

The passing game has improved, but at the expense of just almost completely abandoning the concept of the run game. It's as if Kubiak thinks that the passing game is "it" and that the run game is just a side-show attraction that we don't need to have in order to really win some games.

That's all I got in terms as to WHY we have a bad oline and a bad set of RBs. The run game has looked like a joke since Kubiak got here. No wonder he was rooting for DD to get better. No wonder he waited until the last minute to see if DD would be able to make it with us. I think Kubiak knows that he doesn't know how to operate a run game.

Does anyone on our coaching staff have any run game expertise? I just love all these empty-backfield sets we run. Gee, let me guess what the defense will do...rush Schaub and sack him? Prolly so. Or, they just drop back in a shallow zone and bat the pass away. Or they wait for Owen Daniels to catch it and fumble it.

I feel your pain, Herv. This is a Dr. Jerkyll and Mr. Hyde team.
Really, NE and Pittsburgh are historically teams that wouldn't mortgage the future--they'd rather rebuild through the draft than keep expensive free agents. They are just really good at drafting and in coaching.
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Please, for the rest of us, if thats all it takes, quit watching
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