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Old 11-14-2007   #1
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...as of the 13th.

1 Miami
2 St. Louis
3 New York Jets
4 New England (from San Francisco)
5 Oakland
6 Cincinnati
7 Atlanta
8 Minnesota
9 Arizona
10 New Orleans
11 Baltimore
12 Kansas City
13 Houston
14 Carolina
15 Denver
16 Chicago
17 Philadelphia
18 Seattle
19 Dallas (from Cleveland)
20 Tampa Bay
21 Buffalo
22 San Diego
23 Washington
24 Tennessee
25 New York Giants
26 Jacksonville
27 Detroit
28 Pittsburgh
29 San Francisco (from Indianapolis)
30 Green Bay
31 Dallas
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With the few teams in front of us, it seems we may miss out on some top tier secondary players like Kenny Phillips and Malcolm Jenkins. I do think if this was the order going into the draft we'd be sitting really pretty if we wanted Jonathan Stewart!
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If you'd told me that we'd be sandwiched between Arizona, New Orleans, Baltimore, Kansas City, Carolina, Denver, Chicago, and Philadelphia at the beginning of the year I'd think we'd be sitting much prettier than we really are.
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With the few teams in front of us, it seems we may miss out on some top tier secondary players like Kenny Phillips and Malcolm Jenkins. I do think if this was the order going into the draft we'd be sitting really pretty if we wanted Jonathan Stewart!
Yes, Stewart would be real nice! JMHO!
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I haven't really watched stewart, But I have watched Ray Rice and I like him. Does anyone know how the two compare and who is reagarded as a higher pick?
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Yes, Stewart would be real nice! JMHO!
Yes how sweet. a board full of offensive lineman and corners and we draft a RB. What joy.
And we wind up in the third with both those things off the board. Let me do the dance.

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Yes how sweet. a board full of offensive lineman and corners and we draft a RB. What joy.
And we wind up in the third with both those things off the board. Let me do the dance.

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so with the current board...how do you see it full of offensive lineman and corners worthy of the 13th pick? inquiring minds want to know
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Yes how sweet. a board full of offensive lineman and corners and we draft a RB. What joy.
And we wind up in the third with both those things off the board. Let me do the dance.

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looks good to me.
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I haven't really watched stewart, But I have watched Ray Rice and I like him. Does anyone know how the two compare and who is reagarded as a higher pick?
I haven't seen either one play, but from what I've read Rice is smaller (5'9", 205 lbs., 4.47 forty) and more like a Jones-Drew type of player. Stewart, on the other hand, is bigger (5'11", 230 lbs., 4.49 forty) and a more powerful type of runner similar to Jerome Bettis. Both of there stocks have been rising and both are projected to go in the 1st round. Stewart may be projected a little higher as of now, but it's a long way until the Combine and anything can happen. JMHO!
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Yes how sweet. a board full of offensive lineman and corners and we draft a RB. What joy.
And we wind up in the third with both those things off the board. Let me do the dance.
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The Patriots would draft 4th. Just freakin' great. The Niners GM should be tared and feathered on ESPN just prior to Goodell opening the '08 draft.
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The Patriots would draft 4th. Just freakin' great. The Niners GM should be tared and feathered on ESPN just prior to Goodell opening the '08 draft.
Yea. Let's punish a guy for getting Patrick Willis & Joe Staley in the same draft.

Just because the team sucks doesn't mean that the trade was a bad move.
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moves like that are why New England wins 9 super bowls in 7 years.
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moves like that are why New England wins 9 super bowls in 7 years.
I don't know if that was intentional or not, but damn that's funny.

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so with the current board...how do you see it full of offensive lineman and corners worthy of the 13th pick? inquiring minds want to know
You move down the board at a reduced asking price if you must, to hit the bigest hole with the BPA on the board. But you fill one hole with the best BPA on the board. Be a corner, offensive Tackle, Linebacker or center doesn't matter. But ...you hit one hole with that first pick. If they took one of the corners that would be a positive. Hell I'd take a RT like Loaddholt just to kick winston to the left and see if it would work. My board has had o-line on the top of it for five years. And how do you know that Stewart will not be there at the bottom of the first anyway ? If you ask for a pair of thirds for the move down you just might get it. And there will be peices we need on this board that will fall into the third. One of the centers, take a chance on The Heath Bennidict kid, the Tennesse gaurd or the Texas Tackle that's dinged up.... there will be peices that fall.
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With the few teams in front of us, it seems we may miss out on some top tier secondary players like Kenny Phillips and Malcolm Jenkins. I do think if this was the order going into the draft we'd be sitting really pretty if we wanted Jonathan Stewart!
Not exactly. There are going to be plenty of very talented corners to select at that #13 spot. Mike Jenkins and Antoine Cason will be there at #13 I would think.

It's Kenny Phillips that might not be there at #13 spot simply because I don't see very many safety prospects after him. Kenny isn't having a very good year when it comes to coverage as far as I have seen. At the beginning of the year I was thinking that he may be able to play FS successfully in the NFL however, I am starting to question that a little bit. He has always been good in run support, but it's his coverage that I am worried about.
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Not exactly. There are going to be plenty of very talented corners to select at that #13 spot. Mike Jenkins and Antoine Cason will be there at #13 I would think.

It's Kenny Phillips that might not be there at #13 spot simply because I don't see very many safety prospects after him. Kenny isn't having a very good year when it comes to coverage as far as I have seen. At the beginning of the year I was thinking that he may be able to play FS successfully in the NFL however, I am starting to question that a little bit. He has always been good in run support, but it's his coverage that I am worried about.
Well I'm not the florida experts that some are on here. My thoughts on him are why would they duplicate Boulware or Demps on the team ? Why would they do that ? They currently need a corner. They need some fresh legs on the o-line. They need a center. They could use some athletic LBs or a front line 4-3 speed rusher, which ever. Arizona guy, Cason looked good to me. Watched the Wisconsin game the guy whos name I can't spell looked good to me. Move down and take one. If you miss on those two take the South Florida kid. I mean there's four or five sitting there. And I'm firm in my belief that they aren't going to spend that kind of money on a FS. Everything they've done so far has been very frugal there. I was hot for Cromartie a couple of drafts ago. What I know is I'm not hot for any of the FS prospect this season. Take the big corner coach the lad up.
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Well I'm not the florida experts that some are on here. My thoughts on him are why would they duplicate Boulware or Demps on the team ? Why would they do that ? They currently need a corner. They need some fresh legs on the o-line. They need a center. They could use some athletic LBs or a front line 4-3 speed rusher, which ever. Arizona guy, Cason looked good to me. Watched the Wisconsin game the guy whos name I can't spell looked good to me. Move down and take one. If you miss on those two take the South Florida kid. I mean there's four or five sitting there. And I'm firm in my belief that they aren't going to spend that kind of money on a FS. Everything they've done so far has been very frugal there. I was hot for Cromartie a couple of drafts ago. What I know is I'm not hot for any of the FS prospect this season. Take the big corner coach the lad up.
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You move down the board at a reduced asking price if you must, to hit the bigest hole with the BPA on the board. But you fill one hole with the best BPA on the board. Be a corner, offensive Tackle, Linebacker or center doesn't matter. But ...you hit one hole with that first pick. If they took one of the corners that would be a positive. Hell I'd take a RT like Loaddholt just to kick winston to the left and see if it would work. My board has had o-line on the top of it for five years. And how do you know that Stewart will not be there at the bottom of the first anyway ? If you ask for a pair of thirds for the move down you just might get it. And there will be peices we need on this board that will fall into the third. One of the centers, take a chance on The Heath Bennidict kid, the Tennesse gaurd or the Texas Tackle that's dinged up.... there will be peices that fall.
Ok, now you need to explain. You would take Phil Landholt OT 6'8" 352 5.3 speed (in Jr college) in first round and hope Winston could start at left? Now that is a statement. There are several LTs projected from 12- 50 best prospects such as Sam Baker, Nichael Oher, Gosder Cherilus, Ryan Clady and Alex Boone. You are putting two positions into question with that move. Do we want to take that risk? To me where ever we draft in first, we need to geed a solid starter ready to do on first snap.
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