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Old 11-10-2007   #1
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NEW YORK The NFL has told its officiating crews to start ejecting players for flagrant helmet-to-helmet hits.
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"We are disappointed in the sense that we have lost our starting quarterback for at least one game after the player took the crown of his helmet and delivered an illegal blow to Matt's jaw and the fine levied is only a small fraction of the player's weekly pay," general manager Rick Smith said.
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I dunno, but I think this might be a case of too little too late for our guy ?
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perhaps your thread title should have been...

"After Schaub Concussion, Texans Defense Will Repay Same To Opposing QB"
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perhaps your thread title should have been...

"After Schaub Concussion, Texans Defense Will Repay Same To Opposing QB"
no to quote Kubiak. 'we dont play that kind of football here.'

well i guess we play the losing kind....carebears finish last in the NFL

walsh, belichik, ditka, even landry would have exacted retribution and kept it within the rules of the game 9 times out of 10. we just laid down and took it like a 'man'.....whatever, gary. just grow a damn pair.
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Dog gonnit we're not playing that type of football ... it is'nt nice .
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no to quote Kubiak. 'we dont play that kind of football here.'

well i guess we play the losing kind....carebears finish last in the NFL

walsh, belichik, ditka, even landry would have exacted retribution and kept it within the rules of the game 9 times out of 10. we just laid down and took it like a 'man'.....whatever, gary. just grow a damn pair.
I disagree. Gary embodies the southern, specifically houston texas-esque class (biggio, bagwell, hakeem, clyde, cambpell, moon) that not many in sports understand and he projects it onto his players. You can tackle and hit hard and make plays within the rules. Jammer and his moron coach don't get this. Reacting to such a classless bush league action would be stooping to their level. Schaub's a big boy, hell be fine. Footballs a man's game. He'll prove it the sunday after tomorrow.
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no to quote Kubiak. 'we dont play that kind of football here.'

well i guess we play the losing kind....carebears finish last in the NFL

walsh, belichik, ditka, even landry would have exacted retribution and kept it within the rules of the game 9 times out of 10. we just laid down and took it like a 'man'.....whatever, gary. just grow a damn pair.
among others, dungy's done alright with that losing kind of football
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among others, dungy's done alright with that losing kind of football
exactly. and the best way to counter sleazy hits like that is to make like it didn't even phase you. gets under their skin.
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I don't know...it still irritates me that no one was by Schaubs side in a moment, at least to do some pushing and yelling.

I like Coach Kubiak and the team they are building, but even if you publicly dont advertise your desire to have revenge, it should be a team held belief that you watch each others back while on the field.
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I don't know...it still irritates me that no one was by Schaubs side in a moment, at least to do some pushing and yelling.

I like Coach Kubiak and the team they are building, but even if you publicly dont advertise your desire to have revenge, it should be a team held belief that you watch each others back while on the field.
It would appease many fans here, for differing reasons, to appoint Petey as the enforcer...

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I disagree. Gary embodies the southern, specifically houston texas-esque class (biggio, bagwell, hakeem, clyde, cambpell, moon) that not many in sports understand and he projects it onto his players. You can tackle and hit hard and make plays within the rules. Jammer and his moron coach don't get this. Reacting to such a classless bush league action would be stooping to their level. Schaub's a big boy, hell be fine. Footballs a man's game. He'll prove it the sunday after tomorrow.
yeah and the only guy on that list who won anything was Hakeem and he was far from southern and was one of the most fiery competitors in the game. he also had a mean streak and got into so many fights early in his career to protect himself and his body.

so your argument is flawed and without merit. that stupid 'class' is just being punkass and being someone's bit*h. but whatever...if that is southern and being classy, then you can take that and cram it where the sun don't shine.

just a pathetic rebuttal in my opinion and one that only serves to point out how much Kubiak sucks and how much that mindset is for losers and not winners. so being flatlining and not sticking up for your teammates is classy and southern.....haha no wonder the South got crushed in the Civil War. Congrats on losing but at least you were nice *rolls eyes*

as for Dungy not doing this, you are crazy. Dungy is a nice guy but if a team took a cheap shot on Peyton and took him out of the game YOU ARE CRAZY if you dont think he would exact retribution. he is a defensive coach and from the Steelers pedigree of coaching and playing. He played with the Steel Curtain....just because he is soft spoken doesnt make him a wuss like Kubiak and does nothing to benefit your position of being another team's punching bag and prison skank.

this carebear attitude by the coach and a significant portion of the fanbase is EXACTLY why Houston doesnt ever win diddly until you get a true firebrand and a true leader. don't ever equate Hakeem with Kubiak, Bagwell, or Moon EVER. THose guys couldnt even hold Hakeems jock strap.
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exactly. and the best way to counter sleazy hits like that is to make like it didn't even phase you. gets under their skin.
nice loser errrr southern mentality

i thought this was Texas not Romper Room....

nice guys finish last...houston fans should know that better than anyone
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I disagree. Gary embodies the southern, specifically houston texas-esque class (biggio, bagwell, hakeem, clyde, cambpell, moon) that not many in sports understand and he projects it onto his players. You can tackle and hit hard and make plays within the rules. Jammer and his moron coach don't get this. Reacting to such a classless bush league action would be stooping to their level. Schaub's a big boy, hell be fine. Footballs a man's game. He'll prove it the sunday after tomorrow.
I guess you have never heard of the House of Pain.

For the record, no one ever hit Moon and didn't get paid back.
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nice loser errrr southern mentality

i thought this was Texas not Romper Room....

nice guys finish last...houston fans should know that better than anyone

You (and everyone else complaining about the Texans not retaliating) would just start crying about them getting the penalty that resulted from such "retribution" so it's a lose-lose scenario either way.
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I guess you have never heard of the House of Pain.

For the record, no one ever hit Moon and didn't get paid back.
And you obviously weren't paying attention to the games being played while that nickname was coined. Jerry Glanville and his "House of Pain" bunch played stupid football and never realized their potential while they were patting themselves on the back for how tough they were. The Oilers may have been over .500 for most of Glanvilles tenure here but if you actually watched the football being played (and can remeber it as opposed to looking back through rose colored glasses) you would know that they wasted some of the best years of those players careers with an "aggressive but stupid" defense that pissed off our opponents and then regularly got beat down by them as payback for their cheap and often borderline dirty play.

For the record lots of people hit Moon and didn't get paid back after that clown in black crawled to Atlanta. Getting hit is part of a football players job description even if he plays QB.
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And you obviously weren't paying attention to the games being played while that nickname was coined. Jerry Glanville and his "House of Pain" bunch played stupid football and never realized their potential while they were patting themselves on the back for how tough they were. The Oilers may have been over .500 for most of Glanvilles tenure here but if you actually watched the football being played (and can remeber it as opposed to looking back through rose colored glasses) you would know that they wasted some of the best years of those players careers with an "aggressive but stupid" defense that pissed off our opponents and then regularly got beat down by them as payback for their cheap and often borderline dirty play.

For the record lots of people hit Moon and didn't get paid back after that clown in black crawled to Atlanta. Getting hit is part of a football players job description even if he plays QB.
Glanville was the best thing to happen to the Oilers since Bum Phillips. Glanville set the table and Pardee squandered the groceries.

Those Oilers were a tough, aggressive, scrappy group of players that put the Oilers back on the NFL radar after eight consecutive losing seasons.

House of Pain stood for "you come into my house and your gonna get hurt." People were intimidated to come to Houston. Now look at us, we are the welcome mat for the rest of the NFL.

I will take clown over class if it means getting us back to division wins and playoff appearances.
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Agree to disagree on that one. In my opinion Bud Adams "squandered the groceries" as you put it by failing to hire a head coach who could do something with the talent he had (both with Glanville and with Pardee I believe).

I guess the rest of the NFL after he left Atlanta didn't want any part of "the best thing to happen to the Oilers since Bum Phillips".
Guys like Bill Belichick fail in places like Cleveland but eventually get additional chances because the league collectively sees something in them. Guys like Jerry Glanville get no more chances because the league collectively knows exactly what they have to offer.
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yeah and the only guy on that list who won anything was Hakeem and he was far from southern and was one of the most fiery competitors in the game. he also had a mean streak and got into so many fights early in his career to protect himself and his body.

so your argument is flawed and without merit. that stupid 'class' is just being punkass and being someone's bit*h. but whatever...if that is southern and being classy, then you can take that and cram it where the sun don't shine.

just a pathetic rebuttal in my opinion and one that only serves to point out how much Kubiak sucks and how much that mindset is for losers and not winners. so being flatlining and not sticking up for your teammates is classy and southern.....haha no wonder the South got crushed in the Civil War. Congrats on losing but at least you were nice *rolls eyes*

as for Dungy not doing this, you are crazy. Dungy is a nice guy but if a team took a cheap shot on Peyton and took him out of the game YOU ARE CRAZY if you dont think he would exact retribution. he is a defensive coach and from the Steelers pedigree of coaching and playing. He played with the Steel Curtain....just because he is soft spoken doesnt make him a wuss like Kubiak and does nothing to benefit your position of being another team's punching bag and prison skank.

this carebear attitude by the coach and a significant portion of the fanbase is EXACTLY why Houston doesnt ever win diddly until you get a true firebrand and a true leader. don't ever equate Hakeem with Kubiak, Bagwell, or Moon EVER. THose guys couldnt even hold Hakeems jock strap.
wah wah wah. grow some balls buddy. if you wanna watch fights there's plenty of boxing and UFC on tv. everyone gets hit in football. dont cry over a skinned knee. if it hurt you so much go sit on mommies lap and put on a skirt.
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as for Dungy not doing this, you are crazy. Dungy is a nice guy but if a team took a cheap shot on Peyton and took him out of the game YOU ARE CRAZY if you dont think he would exact retribution. he is a defensive coach and from the Steelers pedigree of coaching and playing..

whats it like knowing how things that have never happened will turn out??

we all see your agenda.. you dislike kubiak for some reason and hate on him every chance you get
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whats it like knowing how things that have never happened will turn out??

we all see your agenda.. you dislike kubiak for some reason and hate on him every chance you get

maybe its because he is not a good head coach. the team has taken into his carebear philosophy and its no wonder that we can't get to the QB or step up and defend our players.

and as for those on the board who say the people who are upset about the lack of retaliation for the malicious hit on Schaub would be upset if a player drew a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct, I say phooey. you actually believe we would be upset about a 15yard penalty in a blowout game where our QB just got taken out on a cheap shot? cmon now.

bottom line is that Kubiak has no fire and the team plays with that same mentality. there should have been retribution but Kubiak is too stupid or too much of a wuss to realize that. don't be surprised when it happens again and we do nothing about it...once again.

but whatever, kubiak will be back for another year and we will continue to suck and then everyone will finally realize that Gary sucks as a head coach. a good OC but a lousy head coach. but at least you got your stupid 'good guy' hero to fawn over and defend.....kubiak sucks.
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Default Re: After Schaub concussion, Helmet-to-Helmet offenders will be ejected

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel View Post
Agree to disagree on that one. In my opinion Bud Adams "squandered the groceries" as you put it by failing to hire a head coach who could do something with the talent he had (both with Glanville and with Pardee I believe).

I guess the rest of the NFL after he left Atlanta didn't want any part of "the best thing to happen to the Oilers since Bum Phillips".
Guys like Bill Belichick fail in places like Cleveland but eventually get additional chances because the league collectively sees something in them. Guys like Jerry Glanville get no more chances because the league collectively knows exactly what they have to offer.
I agree to disagree as well. History is 90% perception and 10% facts. I am sure there are people out there who think Bum Phillips stunk and if Lou Rymkus was the coach we would have won the Super Bowl.

But here is an interesting fact that might explain Houston's woes, the first professional football game played in Houston was September 11, 1960.
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