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Old 11-09-2007   #1
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Default Vikings Dock Pay of Player at Grandmothers Funeral

Wow, the Vikes are quite a classy team

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The Minnesota Vikings have docked wide receiver Troy Williamson one game check for missing last Sunday's game against the San Diego Chargers to attend the Monday funeral of his maternal grandmother

Based on his 2007 salary of $435,000, the action by the Vikings will cost the three-year veteran $25,588. Williamson has 45 days to appeal Minnesota's decision to withhold his pay, and NFL Players Association sources said he will do so.

Coach Brad Childress told Twin Cities-area media following Thursday's practice that the decision was on a "business principle" of the Vikings organization.

"He had a family obligation that he had to see to," Childress said. "We sat down and talked on it before he left. ... He had to do what he had to do. Everybody handles that differently. [Williamson] had to do what his family situation called for."

Childress cited the cases of two players, Minnesota defensive tackle Pat Williams and Indianapolis wide receiver Reggie Wayne, who appeared in games shortly after the deaths of family members.

Williamson's maternal grandmother, who helped to raise him and with whom he was very close, died last week and he returned to South Carolina, where he played a large role in arranging her funeral. He also had to make travel arrangements for several of his siblings, some of whom are in the armed services. He returned to the team on Wednesday as the Vikings began practicing for this Sunday's game against Green Bay.
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Dang. How can anyone sit down with a guy and say "I realize that your Grandmother just died, but if you go to her funeral, I am docking your pay." That's just cold.
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He missed 9 days of practice.

Its not like he was gone for just the one day.
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yeah, he missed quite a lot of time. thems the rules folks.
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Rules are made to be broken.

It's a sad day when a game is supposed to be held in higher regard than family.
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Honestly, he probably isn't on their good side to begin with. I doubt if AD left for awhile, they would fine him.
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Default Re: Vikings Dock Pay of Player at Grandmothers Funeral

Contracts are contracts. I don't think any less of the Vikings about this. Same situation if happened to me, I wouldn't hold against anyone if they did it to me.

Life is about choices and it isn't always about money. Furthermore, you shouldn't expect someone to foot the bill if they aren't required.

I think it is great that this guy made a choice that didn't involve money and stuck to it and doesn't appear to be complaining about it all.

My hat is if off to Troy Williamson, do you what you think is right and forget about the money.
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Rules are made to be broken.

It's a sad day when a game is supposed to be held in higher regard than family.
DB how much time can you miss from work and still get paid?

When my father died I was allowd one day, two if the funeral was out of town. My sister and I had to make all the calls and all the arrangements. I was 20 years old at the time and in school and working full time. I understand greiving over a loved one and needing time but work will not wait and pay you for not doing your job. The only reason this is a story is because it is professional sports and it is suppose to be only a game.

How much time does the person in accounting of the Minnesota Vikings get? I am sure it is not a full week with pay.
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i got a week when my dad died. and they called me several times during that week to know when i was coming in.

shit happens in life. your job is part of it.
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DB how much time can you miss from work and still get paid?
I'm basically self-employed, so no work, no food on the table.

But I'm not a professional football player, which is an ENTERTAINMENT medium first and foremost. It's apples and oranges to compare what these guys do and make to me working paycheck to paycheck.

The Vikings can do whatever they want to do. I have no desire to change the rules. But I don't have to agree with the policy, and voice my opinion accordingly.
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Sports are entertainment for us. It's strictly business for the players, coaches, and owners.
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If I'm him I'm doing three things:

1. Appealing the forfeiture
2. Telling my agent to get me on a WINNING football team.
3. Playing like they have my mamma tied up in a basement if that team ever faces the Vikings. The men in purple would be dead to me.

Your family is more important that your job period. I don't care HOW you try to rationalize it you had a family BEFORE you had a job and you'll have one LONG afterwards. I've never heard occasion where a father called in his son and said:

"Son close the door."

"What is it dad?"

"Well son. Your mother and I have been going over your last few report cards and your last few reports and well...they didn't look good."

"Sorry dad I'll try harder. I'll put in more time at the..."

"Son. I'm sorry. This just isn't working out. I mean you've been a valuable asset to the organization but...we're going to have to let you go."

"Let me go?"

"Son I'm sorry but you're just not cutting the mustard around here. Clean out your desk by the end of the day. Your older sister will escort you out."

I work for a school district. If MY mother passed away I would tell them point blank "My mom passed away. I have to make some arragements and I'll be out for a while trying to get myself together." If they fire me #uck em. I can find another job. You can have a thousand jobs in your life but you're only given ONE family, and I've never heard of a family being either outsourced or laid off.
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Sports are entertainment for us. It's strictly business for the players, coaches, and owners.
I agree. This is horrendoust PR for the Vikings, and they might reverse their decision because of that, but rules are rules. And its a business for the players & coachs and certainly the owners and their financial backers who have hundreds of millions of dollars invested in their franchises.
And I suspect this also has a lot to do with the players contribution to the team, what his compensation is, and his personal relationship with management (the coaching staff in his case). What, you didn't know that corporations don't treat all employees the same ? Where have you been ?
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Vikings F.O. = lame
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DB how much time can you miss from work and still get paid?

When my father died I was allowd one day, two if the funeral was out of town. My sister and I had to make all the calls and all the arrangements. I was 20 years old at the time and in school and working full time. I understand greiving over a loved one and needing time but work will not wait and pay you for not doing your job. The only reason this is a story is because it is professional sports and it is suppose to be only a game.

How much time does the person in accounting of the Minnesota Vikings get? I am sure it is not a full week with pay.
I got a week with pay when my dad passed away. I also got a week with pay when my daughter was born. The Vikings didn't need Williamson anyway, just hand the ball off to All Day.
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He must be the guy that consistantly holds up the
gang-bang line during the Vikings' annual sex party boat trip.


Still, that's just wrong.
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It's not just his granmother dying. I believe his brother was in accident and is still in a coma. I heard that he doesn't have a father and was pretty much the father figure of all his brothers and sisters. I understand that work is work but in the big picture this hurts the Vikings more than it helps them. If the Texans did this to Shaub, Greenwwod, or Turk, etc. I would frown upon it. They could have handled it a better way. Now imagine future Free agents might take this into consideration.
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It's not just his granmother dying. I believe his brother was in accident and is still in a coma. I heard that he doesn't have a father and was pretty much the father figure of all his brothers and sisters. I understand that work is work but in the big picture this hurts the Vikings more than it helps them. If the Texans did this to Shaub, Greenwwod, or Turk, etc. I would frown upon it. They could have handled it a better way. Now imagine future Free agents might take this into consideration.
Not only that, but he was raised by his grandmother, so it is like his mother dying.
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If I'm him I'm doing three things:

1. Appealing the forfeiture
2. Telling my agent to get me on a WINNING football team.
3. Playing like they have my mamma tied up in a basement if that team ever faces the Vikings. The men in purple would be dead to me.

Your family is more important that your job period. I don't care HOW you try to rationalize it you had a family BEFORE you had a job and you'll have one LONG afterwards. I've never heard occasion where a father called in his son and said:

"Son close the door."

"What is it dad?"

"Well son. Your mother and I have been going over your last few report cards and your last few reports and well...they didn't look good."

"Sorry dad I'll try harder. I'll put in more time at the..."

"Son. I'm sorry. This just isn't working out. I mean you've been a valuable asset to the organization but...we're going to have to let you go."

"Let me go?"

"Son I'm sorry but you're just not cutting the mustard around here. Clean out your desk by the end of the day. Your older sister will escort you out."

I work for a school district. If MY mother passed away I would tell them point blank "My mom passed away. I have to make some arragements and I'll be out for a while trying to get myself together." If they fire me #uck em. I can find another job. You can have a thousand jobs in your life but you're only given ONE family, and I've never heard of a family being either outsourced or laid off.
Epic and very true post man.

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Had he not missed the actual GAME DAY, he might not have lost a game check. I'm not sure if the CBA allows the Vikes any real choice in this one.

This isn't like a day off for the rest of us working stiffs. Logically, there are 16 "can't miss" days for these guys. They couldn't have the funeral any other day of the week? I applaud him for doing what he felt he owed her, but mandatory=mandatory for certain days.
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