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Old 03-06-2008   #101
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I wonder.. just wonder (because I don't know much about any of this) but let's just say he IS NOT able to play next season and becomes a Free Agent, but at the same time really shows great improvement by then end of the season. Would it be possible for the Texans, if the like what they see, to offer him a 1 year contract (decent contract: not league minimum but less than what he's making now) with like an option of another 2 years at an increased rate if he plays X amount of snaps/games?

I know the Texans can offer him whatever they want but is that something that a Player/Agent might consider when coming off a bad injury in a contract year? I can't see the Texans/McNair leaving a player like Dunta Robinson high and dry. (I don't see them giving him the moon by any means, but he's A face of our franchise. We never really had 1 but a couple.)

What are y'alls assumptions as far as how a contract could be set up that is appealing to both sides, assuming he doesn't play or plays a VERY limited role late in the season?
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If he wants to leave we could slap the franchise tag on him, preventing him from doing so.
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There's a video and transcript of Dunta giving an update and 2008 expectations at HT.com. I love the way he's attacked his rehab as well as how optimistic he is.



Heck yeah baby!!

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/St...?story_id=4219
I just watched this and came over to see if anything had been posted. I know that history teaches Texans fans to be anything but optimistic about these things, but Dunta seemed extremely confident. When asked about 2008, he did not hesitate to state that he thought he would play 10-12 games.

We are due for some luck on the injury front, so I am going to hold out hope. Even if he came back in a limited role, it would be a big boost to this squad.
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If he wants to leave we could slap the franchise tag on him, preventing him from doing so.
I'm neglecting to see your sarcasm.

Marcus Trufant was slapped with the Franchise tag this year giving him a 1 year contract of $9,465,000. It's only expected to remain the same or go up next season.

Would you want to give $10 Million to an injured Dunta Robinson?
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I'm neglecting to see your sarcasm.

Marcus Trufant was slapped with the Franchise tag this year giving him a 1 year contract of $9,465,000. It's only expected to remain the same or go up next season.

Would you want to give $10 Million to an injured Dunta Robinson?
Samuel is getting paid 6 year $57 million and Clements got pait 8 year $80 million. DRob is as good or better than those two, so you are looking at paying him $10 million a year whether you franchise tag him or pay him a contract.
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he's worth the pay out on a franchise tag, if he shows that he hasn't lost a step then it would be smart to resign him
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Right on! Gotta' love the guy's fighting spirit. Good luck D.Rob. We all hope to see you laying some wood in 2008!
Dunta Robinson is my favorite player. It's great to see him back! As far as I am concerned, I hope he is a Texan for his entire career.

I expect us to take a corner early in this upcoming draft, so Dunta is like money in the bank IMO. Like a CD you are waiting to expire. We have a up and coming Fred Bennett to contribute along with Reeves and whatever rookie corner we bring in. If Dunta comes back and plays even 80% of how he was playing last year before the injury, we could have a good(meaning better than half of the teams in the league) 1, 2 CB tandem with him and Bennett.

It's also interesting, and smart for him to be working in the pool already. Swimming is the BEST exercize to do if you want to strengthen your core muscles.
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This would sure help the back field alot.
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Dunta has done more to earn the hearts of Houston Texans fans.

Unfortunately, that does not win championships, much less a winning season.

Making wise moves, exceptionally shrude personnel moves, and managinng the cap effectively requires using your brain with no respect to the heart.

Franchising Dunta could be a added to a long list of bad moves if it doesn't pan out. It could be a lot of risk for a franchise that cannot afford such things...

I hope the best for Dunta and to always be a Texan, but there some thing in life and football that you just can't help if you want to win. It requires hard decisions...

There is no escaping reality, and trying to escape it can just make matters worse.

Hopefully both parties can be realistic and come up with a incentive laden contract that make sense from both sides.
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Dunta has done more to earn the hearts of Houston Texans fans.

Unfortunately, that does not win championships, much less a winning season.

Making wise moves, exceptionally shrude personnel moves, and managinng the cap effectively requires using your brain with no respect to the heart.

Franchising Dunta could be a added to a long list of bad moves if it doesn't pan out. It could be a lot of risk for a franchise that cannot afford such things...

I hope the best for Dunta and to always be a Texan, but there some thing in life and football that you just can't help if you want to win. It requires hard decisions...

There is no escaping reality, and trying to escape it can just make matters worse.

Hopefully both parties can be realistic and come up with a incentive laden contract that make sense from both sides.
Franchising Dunta for 09 wouldn't hurt the Texans one bit, though it could make Dunta unhappy. The only way franchising Dunta could hurt the Texans is if franchising Dunta prevented them from franchising another player (which they have yet to do).
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Let's be serious here folks. Dunta is good, but he hasn't gone to a pro-bowl and won't next year either. He is not nearly as marketable as Clements or Samuel. Dunta is pushing his recovery to convince the Texans to offer him a mid high contract with incentives, not to go off and sign a gigantic contract elsewhere.
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Let's be serious here folks. Dunta is good, but he hasn't gone to a pro-bowl and won't next year either. He is not nearly as marketable as Clements or Samuel. Dunta is pushing his recovery to convince the Texans to offer him a mid high contract with incentives, not to go off and sign a gigantic contract elsewhere.
He was on his way to an appearance in 07 before the injury. just my opinion but he was playing at a high level.
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He was on his way to an appearance in 07 before the injury. just my opinion but he was playing at a high level.
He was playing at a high level, but I think it is long odds he beats out any of Champ Bailey, Asante Samuel or Antonio Cromartie for a spot. Granted that is tough competition. My point really isn't that he isn't very good, just that he will not command their kinds of contracts.

Plus, if the Texans continue to improve next year and get their first winning season of some sort, I think you are going to see some extra player loyalty of the we have bled so now we want the rewards mentality.
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He was playing at a high level, but I think it is long odds he beats out any of Champ Bailey, Asante Samuel or Antonio Cromartie for a spot. Granted that is tough competition. My point really isn't that he isn't very good, just that he will not command their kinds of contracts.

Plus, if the Texans continue to improve next year and get their first winning season of some sort, I think you are going to see some extra player loyalty of the we have bled so now we want the rewards mentality.
I agree with the emboldened. I think we started to see some of the benefits of that mindset this offseason with Gibbs, Demps, Rhodes, and Reeves choosing to play for us rather than somewhere else. The money is generally pretty equitable, but its all about the opportunity. If your a prospective RB or CB or FS, you know you have a legit chance to start for the Texans. Some guys just need the opportunity. People are still going to take spots on the elite teams like the Colts, Cowboys, Patriots, etc. before playing for the Texans, but I think we have caught up with the rest of the league and are no longer viewed as a negative place to go. Good city, southern hospitality, no state tax, top facilities, decent nightlife, lots of tittie bars, restaurants galore, and nice housing market. I think things are looking up.
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He was on his way to an appearance in 07 before the injury. just my opinion but he was playing at a high level.
I wish. You know Bailey would've been in there no matter what kind of season he had, just on name recognition alone. Samuels and Cromartie both would've probably gone over DRob as well unless DRob came up with double digit picks before that Thursday night game vs Denver, because we all know that the voting was well and done by that game (Mario Williams snubbery up in here).

I think right now, Dunta comes back and has just an out of this world year, then he might get an invite, but he's just not one of those guys that the sports media has picked up on being really good. We know he is, but all people will think about is when he got burned by Roydell Williams on a 46 yard pass that set up the game winning field goal vs the Titans.
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I agree with the emboldened. I think we started to see some of the benefits of that mindset this offseason with Gibbs, Demps, Rhodes, and Reeves choosing to play for us rather than somewhere else. The money is generally pretty equitable, but its all about the opportunity. If your a prospective RB or CB or FS, you know you have a legit chance to start for the Texans. Some guys just need the opportunity. People are still going to take spots on the elite teams like the Colts, Cowboys, Patriots, etc. before playing for the Texans, but I think we have caught up with the rest of the league and are no longer viewed as a negative place to go. Good city, southern hospitality, no state tax, top facilities, decent nightlife, lots of tittie bars, restaurants galore, and nice housing market. I think things are looking up.
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Why don't we all just chill out and wait until we hear the information from the doctors? We're all just speculating at this point, anyway. So far, we've prayed for his full recovery in '08, converted him to FS, and put him out to pasture forever.

Maybe he will come back in '08. Maybe he'll bulk up and compete with Bradlee Van Pelt in the safety position. Maybe he's done and can become a DB coach. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.

No one knows all the facts yet so let's all just get a cup of coffee and settle down until we hear from the doctors. Or CND.

Speaking of that, where has CND been? Out of all the speculation regarding this injury, CND's opinion is the one I've been looking to read....

Just leave me out of this, I haven't done any speculating...


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Dunta deserves what ever we can give him. Give it to him and move on. Its teh right thing to do.
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