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Old 11-06-2007   #41
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When you start experimenting with guys in "new" positions its a sign that you are having to be creative to get somethng out of the player...not a good sign at first glance imo
Or the scheme with the personnel you have..
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Or the scheme with the personnel you have..
The "scheme" for a weakside DE isn't very complex. "get after the QB", protect the edge, and chase the back for the backside cutback isn't exactly the Pythagorean theorem.
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The "scheme" for a weakside DE isn't very complex. "get after the QB", protect the edge, and chase the back for the backside cutback isn't exactly the Pythagorean theorem.
oh if the game were only that simple......

maybe he looked back at his secondary after dunta went down & thought we definitely can't cover anything back there now, man or cover 2 shell, i've got to find a way to get more pressure to help out my secondary a bit more. & since Mario's the only D-linemen they have that could pull off the D-ware type playing.....
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When you start experimenting with guys in "new" positions its a sign that you are having to be creative to get somethng out of the player...not a good sign at first glance imo
Never know.

One of the things that they said about him when they drafted him was that he was versatile and could do different things.

And then when they tried that all at once, they thought he got confused, so they decided to put him at one spot (mostly decided by where Anthony Weaver could play).

But then, they moved him around some. I think some of the experimentation comes from the defensive schemes being too predictable.
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When you start experimenting with guys in "new" positions its a sign that you are having to be creative to get somethng out of the player...not a good sign at first glance imo
My sentiment exactly.
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Never know.

One of the things that they said about him when they drafted him was that he was versatile and could do different things.

And then when they tried that all at once, they thought he got confused, so they decided to put him at one spot (mostly decided by where Anthony Weaver could play).

But then, they moved him around some. I think some of the experimentation comes from the defensive schemes being too predictable.
or it could have been he didn't do anything well...so they went back to concentrating on playing just one spot poorly.

just being a bit sarcastic.


Lots of problems on this team bigger than Mario not playing like a difference maker. Mario has at least not been a total bust (like you know who)....I still consider him a work in progress.
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Never know.

One of the things that they said about him when they drafted him was that he was versatile and could do different things.
Whatever it takes to win games is fine with me. I don't care if they line Mario up as a tight end, as long as we start winning games.
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For sure, I agree with this.

I would probably quit watching the Texans until they got new coaches if they decided to move Mario to OLB. Seems like a horrible idea.
I don't necessarily disagree with this.

BUT, riddle me this...if in 2-3 years Mario is getting the same type of stats he's getting now and not turning into the stud at DE and it seems he may make more of an impact in some sort of LB position, what do you do then?

If I were writing the checks for the Texans, I would hire a coach just for Mario and teach him something other than the bullrush. Add a little variation to his game with some moves.
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I don't necessarily disagree with this.

BUT, riddle me this...if in 2-3 years Mario is getting the same type of stats he's getting now and not turning into the stud at DE and it seems he may make more of an impact in some sort of LB position, what do you do then?

If I were writing the checks for the Texans, I would hire a coach just for Mario and teach him something other than the bullrush. Add a little variation to his game with some moves.
Put the guy wherever he will be the most successful. But the guy is 300 pounds. He will not play OLB successfully.
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Put the guy wherever he will be the most successful. But the guy is 300 pounds. He will not play OLB successfully.
Adalius Thomas is 270. I don't see why Mario couldn't do it.
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Put the guy wherever he will be the most successful. But the guy is 300 pounds. He will not play OLB successfully.
I don't know, some on carolina's board are complaining about Peppers and his productivity this year, Mario and him are pretty even.

I am not saying mario is peppers (he has proven himself) but wonder what is going on . scheme? players around him? offense not doing enough to make another team one dimensional so the defense can do what is best


just brainstorming here
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Ouch. What is that - 6th grade math?
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I know many of us wish they had a working flux capacitor so they could travel back to the 2006 draft in order to warn Casserly and Kubiak that Mario may not be the best #1 pick. Right now, I don't know if Bush or VY were worthy of that spot either. Maaaaaaybe Bush with the way he's stepped up a bit with Deuce's absense.

But play Mario where he makes the most impact. If it's not at DE, then shame on us, we made a bad choice, but there's really no way applying a "you don't draft LB as the first pick!" argument makes much of a difference if that's what the team chooses to do (which they likely won't).

Make the most out of the PLAYER, not make the most out of a PICK POSITION that occurred 2 years ago.
The best of the bunch is Demeco Ryans. Id take him number one...
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I noticed it. I thought he performed exceptionally in the two-point stance. Who knows, maybe we can move him to OLB and play a 3-4 defense? Historically speaking, it is harder to produce against. Any sort of a change would help at this point. We seem to give up at least one huge pass a game and too many rushing yards. Change it up Smith!
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