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So I've used two formulas, one that uses the team's record as a factor and one that doesn't, and sticks to the on-field performance mostly. Both formulas use the on-field performance heavily.
For the on-field performance factors, I've used stats such as rushing offense and defese, passing offense and defense, net points scored, 3rd down % on offense and defense, and some other things. I lean towards overall efficiency more than anything when I determine the quality of a team, so that's why I've used those determining factors. The first rankings I'll show you is from the "Performance Only" ranking: 1. New England: 635.609 2. Indianapolis: 291.564 3. Pittsburgh: 247.5175 4. Dallas: 207.62926 5. Philadelphia: 86.78706 6. NY Giants: 83.9415 7. Green Bay: 83.67997 8. Baltimore: 79.69604 9. Tennessee: 62.77224 10. Tampa Bay: 38.67 11. Washington: 37.51324 12. San Diego: 35.45955 13. Seattle: 27.15309 14. Arizona: 23.60045 15. Jacksonville: 1.5897 16. Houston: -15.77625 17. Kansas City: -23.20487 18. New Orleans: -28.36184 19. Carolina: -33.51439 20. Detroit: -35.6109 21. Oakland: -41.4897 22. Minnesota: -42.9898 23. Cincinnati: -55.3033 24. Denver: -62.571 25. Cleveland: -66.37103 26. Miami: -83.28 27. Chicago: -102.09875 28. Atlanta: -116.70156 29. San Francisco: -119.199204 30. Buffalo: -121.0097 31. NY Jets: -139.8375 32. St. Louis: -161.117 Remember, that's ignoring the record of the team. So there are some interesting surprises, such as Detroit being ranked very low despite their 5-2 record. Same with Cleveland. Or perhaps that's not surprising at all. And notice the massive difference between New England and the next team, Indianapolis. Okay, so now the next rankings are more like what the BCS uses, in that involves the team's record. 1. New England: 633.919 2. Indianapolis: 290.394 3. Dallas: 177.071626 4. Pittsburgh: 176.09025 5. Green Bay: 70.825051 6. NY Giants: 62.35425 7. Baltimore: 45.102148 8. Tennessee: 44.228016 9. Philadelphia: 37.021842 10. Seattle: 26.25091 11. San Diego: 19.90506 12. Tampa Bay: 18.1815 13. Arizona: 10.36035 14. Jacksonville: 8.09676 15. Houston: -6.06375 16. Oakland: -11.95194 17. Minnesota: -12.35234 18. New Orleans: -12.358632 19. Kansas City: -13.585803 20. Washington: -14.585624 21. Atlanta: -16.710408 22. NY Jets: -17.49375 23. Carolina: -19.433414 24. Detroit: -25.75755 25. Denver: -27.027 26. Cleveland: -38.246722 27. Chicago: -38.431875 28. San Francisco: -41.451696 29. Buffalo: -52.04199 30. Cincinnati: -52.40473125 31. Miami: -83.28 32. St. Louis: -161.117 This one looks more accurate. Again, New England holds a massive lead over everyone else. Add up Indy, Dallas and Pittsburgh's outputs and you barely reach New England's. |
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Damn, we are almost out of the negatives. Work harder!
The Patriots are just toooooo good.
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g'mornin to you
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texans are too high. i'm out.
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Is this really why we wear "Battle Red"?
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So all the numbers you've looked at so far haven't taken strength of schedule into place. But that's because I didn't know of a decent enough SOS formula to use.
So what I decided to do was award points for wins and losses based on where the team was ranked in my BCS-esque rankings. For example, a win over New England would net you 32 points, and a loss to St. Louis would lose 32 points. Likewise, a win over St. Louis gets you 1 point and a loss to New England only loses 1 point. And so on and so on. This made the rankings more true to real life I think. Here's what the "quality win-loss" formula came up with: 1. Indianapolis: 16.571 2. Green Bay: 11.857 3. New England: 11.500 4. Tennessee: 9.000 5. Jacksonville: 9.000 6. Dallas: 7.857 7. NY Giants: 7.375 8. Washington: 6.143 9. Detroit: 5.286 10. San Diego: 3.429 11. Carolina: 2.714 12. Denver: 2.572 13. Buffalo: 2.143 14. Cleveland: 1.571 15. Pittsburgh: 0.571 16. Kansas City: 0.286 17. Tampa Bay: 0.125 18. Seattle: -0.714 19. New Orleans: -0.915 20. Chicago: -1.625 21. Philadelphia: -3.143 22. Cincinnati: -3.285 23. San Francisco: -3.429 24. Arizona: -3.572 25. Houston: -3.750 26. Minnesota: -6.000 27. Baltimore: -6.857 28. Atlanta: -9.716 29. Oakland: -11.143 30. NY Jets: -13.625 31. Miami: -13.625 32. St. Louis: -15.250 By itself, the QWL formula is a pretty decent way to rank teams. Of course, it'd be hard to argue that Green Bay is better than New England. So we should just go ahead and add those numbers up with the BCS-esque rankings to get a more complete view of each team. Here's the results of the QWL formula when added to the BCS-esque rankings: 1. New England: 645.419 2. Indianapolis: 306.965 3. Dallas: 184.928626 4. Pittsburgh: 176.66125 5. Green Bay: 82.682051 6. NY Giants: 69.72925 7. Tennessee: 53.228016 8. Baltimore: 38.245148 9. Philadelphia: 33.878842 10. Seattle: 25.53691 11. San Diego: 23.33406 12. Tampa Bay: 18.3065 13. Jacksonville: 17.09676 14. Arizona: 6.78835 15. Washington: -8.442624 16. Houston: -9.81375 17. New Orleans: -13.273632 18. Kansas City: -13.299803 19. Carolina: -16.719414 20. Minnesota: -18.35234 21. Detroit: -20.47155 22. Oakland: -23.09494 23. Denver: -24.455 24. Atlanta: -26.426408 25. NY Jets: -31.11875 26. Cleveland: -36.675722 27. Chicago: -40.056875 28. San Francisco: -44.880696 29. Buffalo: -49.89899 30. Cincinnati: -55.68973125 31. Miami: -96.905 32. St. Louis: -176.367 This is probably the most accurate view at how each team has played throughout the course of the season. New England still has a mammoth lead, of course. I was surprised at Green Bay's QWL. They've played and beaten some good teams. Pittsburgh, on the other hand, hasn't really played anyone, and has losses to two fairly low ranked teams. Also I decided to look at conference strength. The common thought is that the AFC is far better than the NFC. Well, if we just go by average rank, it's surprisingly close. The average AFC team is ranked 16.625. While the average NFC team is ranked 16.375. Only a 0.25 difference. Of course the comical part is when you go by average points. Obviously New England and Indianapolis have such a huge amount of points, that the AFC has a ridiculous edge over the NFC in points. AFC: 919.9975478 points NFC: 56.85999 points In fact, the average point total for the AFC teams is 57.49984674, which is higher than the NFC's total points. A clear-cut case of a league being top-heavy. |
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That's awesome!
Packers vs. Patriots Rematch Super Bowl
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Is there a way you could include strengtho f schedule into your ratinsg? Because as it stands, sure NE has played the best ball because they've
a) run up the score b) played crappy teams The colts would be much closer if you look at the records of the teams they've played
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new england's on-field performance almost triples what indy has done. running up the score or not, that's amazing.
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Does this mean we're in the Rose Bowl?
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Bored at work, so let's look at the average ranking for the divisions:
AFC East: 116.874065 AFC South: 91.8690065 NFC East: 70.0235235 AFC North: 30.63523618 NFC North: 0.9503215 AFC West: -9.37892075 NFC South: -9.5282385 NFC West: -47.230609 The most impressive thing to note here is that the AFC East is the highest ranking division, despite having 3 teams ranked 25 or lower. Really just shows how ridiculous of a lead New England has. And the NFC West is the worst division again. A trend we've seen for a while. |
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Let's go all out and look at the matchups of ranked teams this week.
I figured the best way to have a "top ranked" teams would be just to include every team in that has a final number that's not negative. So that means there are 14 ranked teams. Here's the ranked teams playing each other this week: 1) New England - 2) Indianapolis 3) Dallas - 9) Philadelphia 4) Pittsburgh - 8) Baltimore 12) Tampa Bay - 14) Arizona Yup, Bucs vs. Cards is battle between two ranked teams. Everyone will be watching! |
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You have way too much free time...
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yeah blame my employer.
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updated the rankings.
1. New England: 308.630 2. Indianapolis: 256.880 3. Dallas: 199.134 4. Green Bay: 128.125 5. Pittsburgh: 127.075 6. Tennessee: 108.864 7. NY Giants: 87.939 8. Washington: 65.113 9. Tampa Bay: 63.448 10. Jacksonville: 58.495 11. Detroit: 42.774 12. New Orleans: 22.538 13. Cleveland: 21.826 14. Carolina: 9.100 15. Seattle: -6.625 16. Philadelphia: -9.608 17. San Diego: -25.138 18. Arizona: -25.764 19. Houston: -30.365 20. Denver: -33.748 21. Kansas City: -35.325 22. Minnesota: -42.988 23. Buffalo: -43.275 24. Chicago: -47.823 25. Baltimore: -58.925 26. Atlanta: -97.433 27. Cincinnati: -97.738 28. Oakland: -106.999 29. San Francisco: -138.093 30. Miami: -161.680 31. St. Louis: -194.980 32. NY Jets: -214.737 tweaked things a bit. the gap between New England and the field has gotten smaller. |
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I am confused as to how they lost their huge lead after beating the second best team. Is this based off of Brady's interceptions?
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i bet it's because they allowed a lot more offense than usual, and didn't go as crazy on offense.
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g'mornin to you
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this time, i like where you placed the texans.
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