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Old 10-30-2007   #41
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Anybody read the chronicle this morning? I believe it was N.D. Kalu who made a comment about our qb getting cheap shotted two weeks in a row. He said it was unacceptable and the team should do something about it, maybe go after the other team's qb and everybody pitch in a pay the fine. He said this team was too nice and said something about playing old school football. Now thats what I want to see, some fire and passion from some of our players!!!!
Yep.. there is more in this thread: Chronicle reporting Schaub hurting, probably out vs Raiders
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I heard later on about Pittman beating himself up - which is good, or at least the fact that he recognized the mistake...

Anyone hear on 610 Night shift (not sure if it was Adam or Danny), but he refused to beleive that Turk was smiling on the sidelines - even after several callers brought it up... I know what I saw, and I know many of you know what you saw, and it was inexusable...
I saw it, so if Adam or Danny don't want to believe it, that's fine, but I know what I saw, and trust me, I was not pleased.
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I think I find nothing funnier than fans constant attempts to have player display the proper emotion/attitude at the absolute correct time. A couple of weeks ago it was how dare Travis Johnson still be mad after the game because he thought someone tried to take his knee out. This week, how dare any Texans observe something funny or drop a oneliner during a loss?

Memo to fans, the players aren't given a little chart of when to display this emotion, have this facial expression, or sign that it ok to laugh/smile, etc. Go figure as humans they are not going to do, say or react in the correct manner all the time. We read way too much into this stuff.
Well said. Angry Baby agrees too:

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I saw it, so if Adam or Danny don't want to believe it, that's fine, but I know what I saw, and trust me, I was not pleased.
It happened. I saw it. Here is how I saw it. Brown went up to Turk to make him not feel as bad and Turk does a hand movement and laughs at how he was trying to get around the ball but slipped. I don't think it was a laugh regarding losing but the fact that he didn't know what else to do and Brown was over there. I don't like players laughing it off though and I think after the games you seem too much acceptance.
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I happened. I saw it. Here is how I too it. Brown went up to Turk to make him not feel as bad and Turn does a hand movement and laughs at how he was trying to get around the ball but slipped. I don't think it was a laugh regarding losing but the fact that he didn't know what else to do and Brown was over there. I don't like players laughing it off though and I think after the games you seem too much acceptance.
I have been sober for almost 7 years. After half time of the Titans game I wanted a drink in a bad way and although I did not fall off the wagon that game put me in a funk. I am over it now. Now like some of the players, I am quickly reaching apathy. If they can laugh at what losers they are so can I. I think the apathy, half hearted effort and acceptance of losing needs to be slapped out of some of these players and coaches.

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someone should do a survey to see what percent of fans missed the laughing because they didn't watch (or stopped watching) the game.
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yes I'd rather have them moping, complaining, shouting, etc....ANYTHING but laughing...laughing while losing = a losers mentality............I'm with dude that started this thread............I remember watching tmac laugh and joke with "opposing" players when the rockets were getting blown out at home last year.....that made my blood boil.....
Last week in Jacksonville, Petey was smiling while we were getting penalties. I wanted to throw a rock at him.
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This is a game. Just a game.
Professional football players are paid to entertain us. That's it.

The sun still rises and sets even if your team plays bad, even if they play well. Doesn't matter.

It is nothing but entertainment, you don't like the way you are entertained, they you have to spend your time and effot on something else.

Complaining because no one was looking hostile on the sidelines or no one retailiated after the Schaub hit. Come on people get real. It is not life or death, it is just a game. These guys are businessmen playing a game.

And if a fire hasn't been lit under them by now - there is obviously no coach or player on this team that can get the rest motivated.
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I think I find nothing funnier than fans constant attempts to have player display the proper emotion/attitude at the absolute correct time. A couple of weeks ago it was how dare Travis Johnson still be mad after the game because he thought someone tried to take his knee out. This week, how dare any Texans observe something funny or drop a oneliner during a loss?

Memo to fans, the players aren't given a little chart of when to display this emotion, have this facial expression, or sign that it ok to laugh/smile, etc. Go figure as humans they are not going to do, say or react in the correct manner all the time. We read way too much into this stuff.
Good post, and spot on... but I'll agree with the bulk of the fans and say we seem to have a bit of an air of accepting losses around here.

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Not really, bro. Did you see the hit? It was violently cheap. Displaying some sort of unhappiness is not asking too much.
I'd bet only a couple of guys saw the hit in real time and most of them saw it on tape after the game.
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Robinson (and I am paraphrasing) said something about how he's upset because too many players are being friendly to opponents while the Texans are getting their butts kicked.

He said that on TV.

Maybe he needs to get up in front of his teammates if he hasn't already and light a fire under these guys.
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Robinson (and I am paraphrasing) said something about how he's upset because too many players are being friendly to opponents while the Texans are getting their butts kicked.

He said that on TV.

Maybe he needs to get up in front of his teammates if he hasn't already and light a fire under these guys.
Bob Allen asked him if he was going to say that to adress the team about that and he said he was tired of talking, it was time for people to do their jobs! Not sure if he and other have been trying behind close doors to reach this team but he is not the only one to adress this issue. D. Ryans made a point of saying players need to do their jobs and be accountable in one of his on camera interviews. Makes you wonder just how much slacking is really going on if these players are making statements to the public. Guys like Ryans and Dunta I believe try and handle it within first but the frustration is starting to show in public/
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If you think about the reality of THEIR game, which has NOTHING to do with OUR game, they get real healthy paychecks, even if they suck and botch a fly away snap in the friggin endzone. They worry when next year's team is assembled. When I worked for the Saints, I found out when payday was and knew what kinds of funds/paystubs from direct deposit were being delivered to lockers and nearly had a heart attack!!!! Trust me. There are plenty of players who "work" for the NFL and do not share our pain. If I lived in digs like them and drove their rides, I might not care, either. I'm not saying it's an excuse, just a perspective that most of us will never live. Either way, I'd like to win, but I see them "kicking back" on the sidelines and somewhat equate it with my job. "We'll, we are here, we are friends, kinda need to make the best of things...and I just bought a vacation home in Aspen! You should visit." Well...of course I don't have a vacation home, but I bet a lot of these guys do.

If that makes any sense. I'm posting post surgery so things may make sense to me today that I won't understand tomorrow.
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I have a very hard time getting rid of a book, so I will go back and check the shelves to see if I still have Jack Tatum's book titled something similar to They Call Me Assassin. One of the things I recall is him speaking about a desire to win, and how terribly upset he was to hear upon a loss that some of the teammates were happy that their playoff run was over because going further would interfere with their holiday plans. Unfortunately, his ferocious hits led to D. Stingley's career ending injury and paralysis which is something he will always have to live with. However, I do understand how frustrating it must be to a fierce competitor to work along side with lacadacious employees who is doing enough to keep drawing a paycheck.
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Exactly--win a game and nothing was done wrong. Lose a game and every facet of every player is wrong and fans suddenly become omniscient on heart, intentions, effort, etc.
Every Facet is not what this thread is about, this thread is about Turkey laughing on the sideline while all Texan fans are fuming because he just gave, I mean handed the Chargers 7 points, He just made the Texans the laughing stock of the NFL and not one person was in his grill except to tell a joke or something. One of the most elementary of things to learn on a football team is if the ball goes in the endzone kick the ball out before the other team gets 7 points. Not one bad look by Kubes on this either, I bet Parcells would have had the Turk doing windsprints the entire game.
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Dunta and Demeco are two with attitude to win. If I were Coach I would walk through the locker room and stop at each player and say show me your attitude, If it did not fit With D-Rob then I Would say Hit the road Jack.
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Every Facet is not what this thread is about, this thread is about Turkey laughing on the sideline while all Texan fans are fuming because he just gave, I mean handed the Chargers 7 points, He just made the Texans the laughing stock of the NFL and not one person was in his grill except to tell a joke or something. One of the most elementary of things to learn on a football team is if the ball goes in the endzone kick the ball out before the other team gets 7 points. Not one bad look by Kubes on this either, I bet Parcells would have had the Turk doing windsprints the entire game.
Laughing stock is people thinking there is only one way to address a situation like that. I seem to remember a not so novel concept that laughter is sometimes the best medicine. Wow, I even think Reader's Digest had it as a feature for decades. I see nothing wrong with Kris Brown getting Turk's mind off the mistake by greeting him with "dude, you looked like a monkey attempting to fornicate a football and failing." And Turk cracking back with "well that football said it was saving itself for you." You have no way to know what was said or felt by either of those guys and save the not one bad look by Kubes comments--like the TV was trained on him the whole time, or they were standing next to him or you know what was said in the lockerroom.
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fans suddenly become omniscient on heart, intentions, effort, etc.
It seems training camp is the best place for the soi-disant experts on body language, while the regular season is best for the mind readers.
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Kubes had a press conference and it was not;

WE SUCKED TODAY

it was real complimentary of the team in general.

I see nothing worth complementing in a 35 point forfiture
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