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Old 10-29-2007   #61
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Kubiak on SR610 right now, and just had some more gushing comments about Mario Williams. Rich Lord kind of posed the question we're asking, which is "WTF?", and Kubiak said all you have to do is cut the film on him, or call the left tackle from SD. He then gave one specific example, on the busted coverage TD to Gates, saying that Mario almost single-handedly beat a double team and got a hand on Rivers and altered the throw to a small extent.

I think I need to pay better attention. Kubiak's comments made it very clear he considers Mario's play to be at a very high level right now and all season.
I'm like you. We don't have access to game film, so we just don't get a chance to see what the coaches see.

I have to wonder if we can trust these comments at face value. It seems like Mario is just a fraction away from making the plays and being dominant. Will that happen given more time? 3 years is a pretty good mark for defensive linemen, so I guess we have another season to wait for his breakout season.
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I'm like you. We don't have access to game film, so we just don't get a chance to see what the coaches see.

I have to wonder if we can trust these comments at face value. It seems like Mario is just a fraction away from making the plays and being dominant. Will that happen given more time? 3 years is a pretty good mark for defensive linemen, so I guess we have another season to wait for his breakout season.
I dunno. I think alot of us, including myself, are being hard on him, but I think it is a bit deserved. I also wonder if we had a decent to good secondary, how much of a difference would that make for Mario and our D-line.
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Kubiak on SR610 right now, and just had some more gushing comments about Mario Williams. Rich Lord kind of posed the question we're asking, which is "WTF?", and Kubiak said all you have to do is cut the film on him, or call the left tackle from SD. He then gave one specific example, on the busted coverage TD to Gates, saying that Mario almost single-handedly beat a double team and got a hand on Rivers and altered the throw to a small extent.
I think I need to pay better attention. Kubiak's comments made it very clear he considers Mario's play to be at a very high level right now and all season.
Then he went on to praise the play of CC Brown !
Kubiak must have been reviewing a different game, because I have no idea
how he can reach those kind of conclusions about Mario & CC ?
When I see Mario play, it looks like he is just going thru the motions, he lacks any
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I listened when Kubiak was asked about getting even for the hit on Schaub . Kubiak said they did'nt teach that type of football .

At that point ... for whatever reason ... I thought about who would be the perfect sponsor for the Gary Kubiak show ?

I came up with ... The Gary Kubiak Show brought to you by ... The Amish because we're pacifist .
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Then he went on to praise the play of CC Brown !
Kubiak must have been reviewing a different game, because I have no idea
how he can reach those kind of conclusions about Mario & CC ?
I can for sure say that CC was easily beaten by Antonio Gates during that game. It isn't even that CC was out of position...he just got confused on the route. I'm not sure CC understands the tendencies of the offenses we play. I think he just takes everything as it comes to him.
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Mario is exceptional?
About Gates' touchdown, he said something like, "Mario almost single handedly beat a double team and had a hand on Rivers causing the weak throw that almost didn't get there". He may have said "almost had a hand on him". I need to check that one out on DVR and see what he sees.
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About Gates' touchdown, he said something like, "Mario almost single handedly beat a double team and had a hand on Rivers causing the weak throw that almost didn't get there". He may have said "almost had a hand on him". I need to check that one out on DVR and see what he sees.
I thought someone bumped Rivers as he threw it . At the very least they did'nt allow him to step into the Throw .

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Kubiak on SR610 right now, and just had some more gushing comments about Mario Williams. Rich Lord kind of posed the question we're asking, which is "WTF?", and Kubiak said all you have to do is cut the film on him, or call the left tackle from SD. He then gave one specific example, on the busted coverage TD to Gates, saying that Mario almost single-handedly beat a double team and got a hand on Rivers and altered the throw to a small extent.

I think I need to pay better attention. Kubiak's comments made it very clear he considers Mario's play to be at a very high level right now and all season.
He also said that he was very happy with his caoching staff.
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He also said that he was very happy with his caoching staff.
if he's so happy with everyones job. why we still getting our a$$ kicked.
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Pacifist? More like passive-aggressive. Maybe his ego is getting in the way of his ability to cope with being second-guessed. Maybe he should check his because A.) this is the NFL, B.) Houston has rabid fans and C.) Kubiak isn't close to Tony Dungy's level, and should not expect a free pass.

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Mario also got praise from ND Kalu. Kalu shoots straight from the hip so he's definitely not sugar coating it. I think fans often look at one or a handful of plays instead of evaluating as a whole.
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Mario didn't play bad, I'd give his performance last week about B-

As for Kubiak praising him after watching the film. One thing about game film is they can see the secondary and really examine where things go wrong, if things go wrong in the secondary quick enough, the Dline has NO CHANCE at getting a sack. Unless of course you are playing against a Carr-esque QB that can't read coverages and wouldn't notice the open guy. So there may have been plays where Mario beat his man but the coverage didn't hold up to allow him to really get to the QB.

I don't know how many hurries Mario had, he did have a sack and I am guessing he had 4 hurries.

I don't think Mario is that big of a problem. I think the Dline will play better if our secondary could actually cover guys...which brings me to Faggins...why is he starting?

I think he has done enough to lose his starting job.
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I don't think anyone should be surprised by Coach Kubiak saying that the Texans are not about retaliation hits. It would seem pretty hollow to pop off in a news conference. I think it's an unwritten rule/agreement players have for one another. It's the "Band of Brothers" thing ya know?
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Mario didn't play bad, I'd give his performance last week about B-

As for Kubiak praising him after watching the film. One thing about game film is they can see the secondary and really examine where things go wrong, if things go wrong in the secondary quick enough, the Dline has NO CHANCE at getting a sack. Unless of course you are playing against a Carr-esque QB that can't read coverages and wouldn't notice the open guy. So there may have been plays where Mario beat his man but the coverage didn't hold up to allow him to really get to the QB.

I don't know how many hurries Mario had, he did have a sack and I am guessing he had 4 hurries.

I don't think Mario is that big of a problem. I think the Dline will play better if our secondary could actually cover guys...which brings me to Faggins...why is he starting?

I think he has done enough to lose his starting job.
Mario had one tackle and one assist. I don't think he was a big problem Sunday, but he wasn't a difference maker at all....just like most of his games.
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I thought someone bumped Rivers as he threw it . At the very least they did'nt allow him to step into the Throw .

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I just watched it on TV a couple of times. Mario pushed his man back into Rivers, probably affecting the throw. Calling it "beating a double team" is VERY generous, however. The guard did stick his arm out to the left while looking for someone to block. That's it.

It's at the 6:00 mark of the 1st quarter if anyone who wants to check it out.
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I just watched it on TV a couple of times. Mario pushed his man back into Rivers, probably affecting the throw. Calling it "beating a double team" is VERY generous, however. The guard did stick his arm out to the left while looking for someone to block. That's it.

It's at the 6:00 mark of the 1st quarter if anyone who wants to check it out.
My hat is off to you, sir. I couldn't bring myself to TiVo the game because I felt like it would be tantamount to recording a bus load of nuns and orphans stuck in a bus on railroad tracks - too horrible to ever play back. Even if I had recorded it, though, I wouldn't be man enough to go back and watch it again. No, not even in the name of science.

You've got stones of brass, sir, to go back and watch that travesty again.

Although I wouldn't mind seeing Echemandu before he tweaked his hammy.... I suppose I'll just wait til next week, though.
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I watched just a very short segment a couple of times. I could handle it.
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I just watched it on TV a couple of times. Mario pushed his man back into Rivers, probably affecting the throw. Calling it "beating a double team" is VERY generous, however. The guard did stick his arm out to the left while looking for someone to block. That's it.

It's at the 6:00 mark of the 1st quarter if anyone who wants to check it out.
If he played closer to Kubiaks assessment than what I thought I saw, I'm delighted to admit I was wrong.
I certainly hope Kubiak is on mark if he's describing Marios play as "at a very high level".
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Mario also got praise from ND Kalu. Kalu shoots straight from the hip so he's definitely not sugar coating it. I think fans often look at one or a handful of plays instead of evaluating as a whole.
This is what Kalu said:

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I finally read everything Kubiak said:

That whole discussion of dings, and dodging talking about the concussion word is crap:

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(on the injury update from yesterday, especially QB Matt Schaub) (QB) Matt (Schaub), all his tests were fine. He was back with the team today. He was in meetings. Hes going to be day-to-day, so well have to wait and see. Hes not feeling great today, so well see and well take it day-by-day.

(on what grade of a concussion it was) No, they really didnt tell me that, just that he got dinged pretty good. Hes having some headaches. I know hes having some headaches today. Like I said, hes around the football team today, so well just take it day-to-day.

(on if the league has a rule that he has to be out for a period of time) No, all I know is there are a series of tests that we run on players when things happen. Theyll obviously do that with him.

(on if hes calling it a concussion) Am I? Im not calling it anything. Im just saying he got dinged and hes not feeling very good today and well wait and see.
Does he have to be that evasive for medical privacy reasons or something? I know there is a minimum stuff that they are supposed to reveal, but wow, that's pretty tap dancy there.

The best thing he is doing is having the entire team watch film together:

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I think that is worth doing, especially for a team that has been very cliqued up in the past.

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The thing that jumped out to me was that the guy that knocked Schaub also took a cheapshot at Flanagan and took him out. That's ridiculous.
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