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Old 10-28-2007   #21
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Weary's been tasered....I don't know it's something...

And I think Schaub got in trouble in college for public urination....I could just be thinking of Eli but ..hey..
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i don't know, Cincy has drafted low character guys and we see where that has got them this season
I don't think we're asking for low character...just guys with a little bit of fire underneath them....
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I don't want thugs on my team, but I sure as crap would've liked to have seen my guys get ALL OVER that arsehole Florence that laid that cheap shot on Schaub. That dude needs a suspension, not just a fine. And if I was Kubiak, I'd be grabbing my linemen saying, "why the f didn't you have our guy's back?" If there's EVER a time to get an unsportsmanlike penalty, that was it. And we STILL would've gotten the 15 yards, as there were TWO unsportsmanlike penalties by the Chargers. One would have been offset.
Kubiak probably got after Schaub for being a jack ass that just sat there after he got picked off. There is no better way to get your bell rung on a football field than standing still.

Any football player in Florence's situation would make that hit in a heart beat if they were worth a ****.
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Kubiak probably got after Schaub for being a jack ass that just sat there after he got picked off. There is no better way to get your bell rung on a football field than standing still.

Any football player in Florence's situation would make that hit in a heart beat if they were worth a ****.
Oh yeah, helmet to helmet and everything.
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Oh yeah, helmet to helmet and everything.
Yep

If Schaub was a LT or Guard, he would get cracked in the skull and their wouldn't be a flag.
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Yep

If Schaub was a LT or Guard, he would get cracked in the skull and there wouldn't be a flag.
The reason people are arguing with you is because there is a flag for using helmet to helmet contact against the QB.

It is well known to not do it or get a penalty. The fact that he wasn't is rediculous. I'm not sure it warrants an ejection but a flag for sure.
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The reason people are arguing with you is because there is a flag for using helmet to helmet contact against the QB.
That and the fact that is specifically against the rules to go after a QB that is not part of the play after a turnover. Most players wouldn't have done it.
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If Schaub was a LT or Guard, he would get cracked in the skull and their wouldn't be a flag.
Helmet to Helmet tackles on any position is not allowed.
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That and the fact that is specifically against the rules to go after a QB that is not part of the play after a turnover. Most players wouldn't have done it.
"You must spread som...blah blah blah"
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Helmet to Helmet tackles on any position is not allowed.
But blocks are

I'm pretty sure Schaub got Ear Hole'd
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But blocks are

I'm pretty sure Schaub got Ear Hole'd
Dude waited for Schaub to turn around and popped him in the facemask.
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Default Re: Enough With The High Character Guys Issue.

I don't know about negative attitudes, necessarily. However, our team doesn't have any heart in it at the moment. We need to be giving people hell.
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I never thought I would be saying this, but I am completely jealous of the Cowboys right now and Jerry Jones, Jerry doesnt care who he gets or their track record. He just wants to win, and win he does.

Please forgive me my fellow texan fans for giving the girls props. It has to be the emotions typing.
I appreciate the props, but Jerry does care who he gets, otherwise Moss would be a Cowboy. Also, Quincy Carter was cut abruptly when it appeared he was the best option at the time for QB. TO was more of a malcontent given his high standards for putting forth the best efforts to win. He does not possess thug status.
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I appreciate the props, but Jerry does care who he gets, otherwise Moss would be a Cowboy. Also, Quincy Carter was cut abruptly when it appeared he was the best option at the time for QB. TO was more of a malcontent given his high standards for putting forth the best efforts to win. He does not possess thug status.

So there were NO "thugs" on the team in the 90's. Do you really think if Quincy was a great or even good QB he would have been kicked off the team. If that were the case the dynasty in the 90's would never have been.
i.e. Michael Irvin, Leon Lett, Eric Williams, Nate Newton. all loved the crack, but they were great. Quincy was not.

The reason Moss isnt on the team is because they already have TO. I dont think the two could co exist.

But I still give him props. He brings in guys who want to win. Like Deion Sanders, and Keyshawn Johnson. They both had big heads and backgrounds. He's not scared.

Now with that being said I still hate the Cowboys.
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Pacman would have a place on my football team. The dude can play. As long as he didn't disrupt the team he would be on my team.
Sitting on the couch watching you lose? I dont want bums like that on my team. The Colts can win with out having a holding cell in their stadium, we dont need to recruit the Bloods. Stow that BS right now. The way to win isnt the guys with criminal records. Look at Cinci, they arent setting the world on fire. Drafting guys with charecter issues isnt the way to make a good dependable team, its looking for the guys who can play. Not the work-out warriors, the luch pail guys who just play football.
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So there were NO "thugs" on the team in the 90's. Do you really think if Quincy was a great or even good QB he would have been kicked off the team. If that were the case the dynasty in the 90's would never have been.
i.e. Michael Irvin, Leon Lett, Eric Williams, Nate Newton. all loved the crack, but they were great. Quincy was not.

The reason Moss isnt on the team is because they already have TO. I dont think the two could co exist.

But I still give him props. He brings in guys who want to win. Like Deion Sanders, and Keyshawn Johnson. They both had big heads and backgrounds. He's not scared.

Now with that being said I still hate the Cowboys.
I wasn't referring to the 90's given that in most opinions you can't mention the criminal behavior without mentioning the Super Bowls, which in most opposing fans opinion, is history that has no value in the 21st Century.

I think that Quincy could have been an above average quarterback if he would have worked the system, improved his attitude, and taken advantage of the drug treatment program that could have given him the chance to remain as the quarterback on the team or at worst, a solid backup for another team. Either case, his future would have been a heck of a lot brighter.

I did, however, mention Moss because the Cowboys passed on him during the draft due to some blemishes on his character during college. Thus, he ended up in Minnesota under Dennis Green.

OBTW, hating the Cowboys is ok with me. At least we manage to stir some type of emotion, even if it's hate.
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I guess the Colts have a lot of bad character guys.

Manning, Harrison, Wayne and the list goes on about low charcater guys on the Colts, it is why they win.
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I get the point of the post and I think it has been misinterpreted. You don't need low character guys, you needs guys with an angry fire and desire to win. See Dunta, see DeMeco. Alot of these guys are just soft. No one seems out there hitting with attitude or wanting to plant the opponent into the dirt. You can be a Jack Lambert and not get arrested. We just need guys with a little anger in their game. We possess a softness.
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We don't need thugs like Pacman to be a good team, but we do need a couple of guys that have an edge or attitude about them, are nasty as hell on the field, and take no quarter. Someone who is tough, and would punch someone in the mouth if our QB was taken out like that.
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